- I almost opposed outright due to the nominator saying "I don't believe that content creation is an important part of adminship". It isn't your place to decide what others judge to be important, and the arrogance in which you show in your nominating statement is foolhardy, as a good number of people DO consider some form of content creation to be important, at least to a degree. I will look around closer before I decide to support or oppose, but wanted to be clear that the nominating statement was one of the most foolish noms I've ever seen, and since the candidate choose you to nominate him, it brings his judgement into question. At the very least, you just shot your candidate in the foot. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:53, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- If he had said "content creation is not an important part of admin work" I could see your point. He's stating HIS belief, not saying what he thinks others should think. Peridon (talk) 20:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Read the main nomination a bit closer: "Frankly, I don't believe that content creation is an important part of adminship." He treats it as opinion, not fact. Esquivalience t 20:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, candidates usually don't choose nominators, rather the reverse, a nominator offers to nominate a candidate. I might add that I tend to agree with the view. I do a fair amount of content work at the level of rescuing stubs and new articles, helping with drafts, and formatting work on moderate level articles. I do almost nothing on articles at or above B-class, certainly not GAs or FAs. I don't feel this has had any negative impact on my performance of admin tasks. DES (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw what he wrote and I'm quite capable of parsing it on my own. Your reply doesn't help, Esquivalience. I'm not a hardcore "must have $x content" voter by any definition, but to see a nom poke the content creation bears seems foolish. I haven't voted yet, but surprised to see so much reaction to my comment in a neutral section. And yes, candidates DO choose their nominators, no one is forced to run or to allow another to do the nomination. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps this is a misunderstanding. I don't think anyone is diminishing the importance of content creation. Administrative tools and content creation should be kept very separate. The sentence "I don't believe that content creation is an important part of adminship" is not an attack on content creators, I think it is pointing out that content creation is not part of the job. I don't think that "content creation" is a part of "admin work" at all. Content creation is something handled by all editors, and administrative work is something else entirely. As an admin I know that when I get involved in content I need to take off my admin hat, and when I act as an admin I need to take off my editor hat. Chillum 21:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec) I'm not sure I understand the outrage here. Technically it's true: admin actions such as blocks, page protections, page deletions don't create content. At best, they preserve current content. Whether or not content creation experience is necessary for admins to make the right decisions is debatable but that's not how I read the nomination statement. Pichpich (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- It isn't outrage, not at all. I am just taken aback by the foolishness of it, and waiting for the problems that will happen because of this statement. He didn't do the candidate any favors. I won't hold it against the candidate (although I think he would have been better with a more experienced nom that doesn't start off with statement that some people will take poorly). I didn't expect all the reaction to my observation, it is simply my observation prior to voting. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- A discussion like this was bound to happen when the nominator is a user of 3 months tenure and less than 1,000 edits, and thus ineligible for adminship himself. The co-nominator has been around for less than a year, too. Any serious admin candidate wouldn't let himself be nominated by inexperienced users like that, even a self-nomination would garner more respect. Kraxler (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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