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18 May 2023

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Very similar, semi-consecutive or overlapping edits on the same articles, all with the same poor grammar, dubious sourcing (or lack thereof), and promoting the same POV: e.g. compare [1] and [2] at Wadai War, or [3] and [4], [5] at Karamanli dynasty, etc. In this edit, Las davas added an unsourced image which Samira819 had uploaded to Commons 3 minutes earlier (see here on Commons).

The creation of the Las davas account would coincide with a string of reverts of Samir819's edits in late March 2023. Samira819 made a few edits after this, but Las davas was more active. Notably, Samira819 created an unsourced article, Djerba war, on 12 May, which Las davas then edited two minutes after its creation (see article history) and which they immediately promoted in another article ([6]).

Very soon after Las davas was blocked today (May 18), Samira819 resumed editing ([7]) in an article that Las davas had been editing in a similar way ([8]).

Other examples of similarities:

Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC) R Prazeres (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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24 May 2023

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Same as user:Las davas, already indef blocked Lone-078 (talk) 16:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh sorry, it seems I filed another report nearly simultaneously (for Jamalie7, below). If it should be combined with the report above somehow, let me know. R Prazeres (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: this new edit looks very much like the type of POV edit the sockpuppeteer would do. R Prazeres (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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24 May 2023

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Similar editing style, POV, and timing on the same articles. Samira819 was recently blocked for simultaneous use of sockpuppet account Las Davas. Evidence:

Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Latest update: Jamalie7 is still active and, in further evidence of WP:BLOCKEVADE, just tried to reinsert the same baseless claim that Las Davas inserted previously at Karamanli dynasty (compare [34] and [35]). Like Las Davas, they cited vague sources (usually bare URLs) that, upon verification, do not support the claim at all. They even used the same specific yet vague edit summary that Las Davas did (e.g. [36] and [37]). Really hoping the backlog clears up so someone can have look at this one; it looks pretty blatant and it's been ongoing for weeks now. R Prazeres (talk) 22:02, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Just an update about Group 3 (below): based on Historian loverr's recent edits at First Barbary War, I don't think this account is related to the other groups after all. Historian loverr's may be disruptive (they've been reported at WP:AN/EW), but they seem to be pushing something different from the original sockmaster here (and from the recent sock account Jamalie7) and their talk page behaviour differs as well. R Prazeres (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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08 July 2023

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Suspected sockpuppets

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Yet another account clearly from the same user, editing on the same topic.

After an initial seemingly unrelated edit at Karamanli dynasty, they immediately resumed the same discussion on the same topic that the previously blocked accounts were pursuing at Talk:Karamanli dynasty (you can see the comments of previous socks, Las Davas and Jamalie7, plastered over that page, with the endless stream of quotes and references that they seem to barely understand).

Also continuing the same very specific talk page behaviour; in addition to the poor writing, they constantly ping me in every response, even after I asked them directly not to ([38]), which is something very specific to this sockmaster.

Honestly, it looks like they're being more cautious at the moment, but their edits are still of very low quality and they clearly persist in making sockpuppet accounts instead of addressing the issues raised with them previously. This draft that they've begun to write on their own consists again entirely of the same WP:OR that Las Davas and Jamalie7 promoted at Karamanli dynasty, which borders on WP:HOAX territory (by constantly citing sources that do not support the claims made). R Prazeres (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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19 August 2023

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Clearly the return of serial sockpuppeteer Samira819, without registering this time. These are the two IPs I noticed, there may be others. Evidence:

R Prazeres (talk) 16:42, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Adding a third IP (41.254.66.152), judging by this comment which can only refer to these edits by the first listed IP. R Prazeres (talk) 18:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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20 September 2023

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Another possible sockpuppet of this long-running sockpuppeteer. Exact same POV (Libyan nationalist view of history) and same poor English. More specifically:

R Prazeres (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC) R Prazeres (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fullofdino has been continuing to create more poorly-sourced, potentially WP:OR articles on seemingly non-notable topics relating to Libya's history, the latest including Tripoli Republic, Spanish Bombardment of Tripoli, and Banu Majris Dynasty. (See the talk pages of sockpuppet Las Davas and sockmaster Samira819 for past examples of these poor-quality article creations being deleted or moved to draftspace.)
And more of the same non-stop pinging of editors on a talk page, even after being asked to stop, here. (For an extensive example of this past behaviour, see discussions between myself and socks Hello 09761, Jamalie7 and Las Davas at Talk:Karamanli dynasty.) R Prazeres (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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24 November 2023

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I've been wondering about this one for a while: some differences from previous Samira819 socks (such as using proper citations), but lots of similarities and it's possible the sockmaster is aware of this SPI archive by now and has tried to improve some of their habits slightly.

At minimum, this looks like a user following the same pattern of POV editing, if it's not simply the latest iteration of Samira819's many socks. R Prazeres (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, update:
  • Jake106meme seems to be insisting that there's such a thing as a true and separate "Libyan Hercules" (see last bullet point above) even after being faced with what reliable sources say; see Talk:Sardus.
  • Jake106meme is also creating stub articles about Libyan history topics with very dubious content and notability (e.g. Balaaza-Warshefana War, Franco-Senussi War, Al Balaaza, Banu Kerdasa). This was another habit of Samira819, particularly the Las Davas sock; those previous examples are mostly all deleted, but you can see the notices for them on User talk:Las davas. Again, it's plausibly another POV editor, but it ticks all the boxes for Samira819.
R Prazeres (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More evidence:
  • Samira819 previously edit-warred at Libu in an attempt to label it a "civilization" ([44], [45], [46]), pursuing this on the talk page, and later repeating a similar attempt to label it a "state" ([47]); all reverted. Jake106meme is now trying to create a "Libyan Civilization" article (which they've defined as "The Libyan Civilization or Libu Civilization" [48]) which is clearly a duplicate and POV fork that circumvents consensus at Libu.
R Prazeres (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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08 January 2024

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Right on schedule, more WP:DUCK IPs following in the footsteps of the last Samira819 sock blocked a few weeks ago (Jake106meme, see SPI here). Note that the IPs are very similar to others that were previously reported for this user: see here. The general pattern of the sockmaster is to add WP:EXCEPTIONAL claims and attributing them to sources that do not support the claim, almost always exaggerating the power, importance, or independence of former Libyan (or Tripolitanian) states.

The first three IPs are clearly linked to each other:

For the fourth (41.254.66.126):

The fifth (165.16.20.30):

R Prazeres (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC) R Prazeres (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sixth: adding 41.254.71.124, which inserted badly-written material with the usual POV and OR to Garamantes, an article repeatedly targeted by Samira819's socks (e.g. [61], [62], [63], [64], [65], [66]). I've seen some other IPs that look suspicious as well, but as they keep hopping anyways, I'm not bothering with the more ambiguous cases. R Prazeres (talk) 18:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As of today, IP 165.16.20.30 is the most recent one to be active. I've added another piece of evidence above. R Prazeres (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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26 March 2024

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Likely sock of LTA who edits with similar style and POV on the same topics (relating to Libyan history).

Requesting CU to confirm, also because it's been a while since the last confirmed sock (Jake106meme). R Prazeres (talk) 01:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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01 July 2024

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This looks like another possible sock of LTA Samira819. Evidence:

It's been a few months since the last sock and there have been multiple similar but separate POV editors like this before, so requesting CU for greater clarity. R Prazeres (talk) 01:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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