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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after Harvard was defeated in the 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game—one of the greatest upsets in college football history—MIT students celebrated the win by tearing down Harvard's goalposts?

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A fact from 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 February 2024, and was viewed approximately 9,565 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Centre's 1921 defeat of Harvard is widely considered to be one of the greatest upsets in college football history?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game.

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Great subject[edit]

I just wanted to add that this game was profiled in the notable ESPN documentary on college football (from the early 2000s) "Rites of Autumn". --Bobak (talk) 15:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

Passed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 09:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a go at this one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

A thoroughly entertaining piece of sporting history, and a well-written and well-cited article with apposite illustrations, so my comments will be few.

I suppose that the variety of football (clearly not soccer) should be mentioned and linked somewhere.
- I piped "college football" in the first sentence to "collegiate American football", still linking to college football. My other idea was to have it as "collegiate American football" though I have some SEAOFBLUE concerns about that. More than happy to hear suggestions about how to better convey/display that. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe wikilink chemical formula.
- Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Governor Edwin P. Morrow: maybe say Kentucky governor since the state hasn't been mentioned yet: or maybe better, say Danville, Kentucky just above.
- Changed to "return to Danville, Kentucky, two days..." PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At top of 'Recent years', maybe drop first word "After" and end sentence at "World War I", starting next sentence with "The team...". The next paragraph begins with "After", for one thing.
- Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"after the contest sold out[16]" -> "when the contest sold out,[16]"
- Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"a former Transylvania football player": this isn't the country, so maybe say "Transylvania University" or "Transylvania Pioneers" explicitly.
- Good point, changed to Transylvania University with a link to the school since I realized I duplicated a link to the football program's page as there is one farther up. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"had not ever played" -> "had never played"
- Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'Game summary' - I guess I can see why the heading was phrased this way but it's rather a dull one. Maybe 'Game play' or something on those lines? I'd be tempted to write 'The game itself' but people don't like the definite article.
- "Game summary" is sort of my default as it's used very commonly in present-day college football articles; my second choice would probably be something like "The game" but that doesn't get rid of the definite article issue you mentioned. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"impossible formula" image: suggest we say in the caption, and repeat the citation there, that the formula was painted all around Danville from soon after the game.
- Expanded caption with that info and added citation. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'See also': why not move the link to the text "largest upsets in the history of college football"? Or it could be a "Further" link at the top of 'Legacy'.
- It wouldn't fit for the "largest upsets" text since that list covers more than just historical upsets. I added it as a hatnote in "Legacy" with "See also" instead of "Further", since in my mind the latter gives the impression that there will be more reading about this game's legacy specifically instead of other games with notable legacies - also open to further suggestion here if you feel there is a better solution. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

All images are from Commons; all are clearly PD as labelled there, except for the recent photograph by nom which is CC-by-SA.

(I note in passing that [49] Danville Daily Messenger's front page would work really nicely as a thumbnail image in the article. Given its date, it must be PD. Obviously not a requirement for GA.)
- Uploaded this and stuck it in "Immediate impact and reactions" for now, moving the C6H0 photo down to "Legacy", though these locations might change. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

All spotchecks passed with flying colours.

Summary[edit]

This is a fine article and with the few small adjustments will make a worthy GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review and the kind words! Everything above has been fixed or responded to. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Super, it's a GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 04:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The "impossible formula" painted on a building

... that a professor said that Harvard's football team had been poisoned by the "impossible formula" of C6H0 (pictured) after Centre defeated them 6–0 in 1921? Source: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/football/2021/10/29/centre-college-upset-harvard-100-years-ago-today/8440391002/
- ALT1: ... that Centre's 1921 defeat of Harvard is widely considered one of the greatest upsets in college football history? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/44981258
- ALT2: ... that Harvard had not lost a varsity-level football game in nearly five years before their upset loss to Centre in 1921? Source: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/10.29.html
- ALT3: ... that after defeating Harvard in 1921, the Centre College football team was greeted by a homecoming party which included the governor of Kentucky? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-advocate-messenger-danville-messenge/81585269/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick Murray Trotter
- Comment: Article ran at DYK on August 12, 2008, and should be eligible again per WP:DYKNEW since five years have passed and article was promoted to GA three days ago.

Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 15:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I've heard of this before. I'll review it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice work! Everything appears good. QPQ done. Image works. Although it did appear at DYK 16 years ago, I think you're right in that it is eligible to appear again. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]