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I have changed Shearer's place of birth details to indicate that he was born in Newcastle Upon tyne, NOT Northumberland. Northumberland itself is a few miles from Gosforth, and Gosforth is regarded as being part of Newcastle Upon Tyne, I should know, I live here myself. Check Gosforth's article if you don't believe me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.35.70 (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
year of death? somebody has been mixing things up here
One of the best shots ever,
A true inspiration Tom + Mo
I rate him as England's best ever centre-forward to date (yes, even above Rooney and Owen). I'm suprised no one mentioning Shearer breaking Jackie Milburn's record to become newcatsle's highest scoring forward ever though. Ondog 04:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Do we keep the player infobox even though they've retired? Mark272 15:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Some people are changing it to United Kingdom rather than England. Which is correct, if any? Mark272 14:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
There shouldn't be a debate, he was born in England. Someone born in Sweden don't say they were born in Scandanavia. Alright, so it isn't exactly the same situation, but you get my point.
Correction: England IS a country. However, two parts of the UK (namely Wales and Scotland) are currently its only commonwealths. England, however, like NI, IS indeed its own country due to its founding of the UK itself (and NI entering much later on). i.e. the UK comprises Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but England is its own country.
Besides, I'd never call myself 'British' - no way! English by the Grace of God! - Tom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.69.84 (talk) 18:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Saying that Shearer is "widely regarded as one of the greatest strikers in the history of the game" is a use of weasel words (see WP:AWW). I would suggest instead saying that he has been recognized with the honours of Footballer of the Year or the PFA Players' Player of the Year. Or mention that he was on the FIFA 100. I don't feel qualified to choose the best way of stating his qualifications; I've put a weasel tag in for that but it really isn't that big of a thing to change. 68.40.58.88 19:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Not looking for an edit here, can someone just explain why him celebrating this way is weird? Forgive me, i don't even know what creosote is.
As in, what is the back-story of this event?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.33.100 (talk • contribs) .
Not true
After winning the Premiership, a myth arose that Shearer "celebrated" the title by going home and applying creosote to his garden fence.
He drove home, ran upstairs, threw his wife on the bed and ....hoovered where she'd been standing.
i think that it's right to mention that shearer was joint caretaker manager of newcastle alongside glenn roeder from february to the summer. opinions?--Scott w 20:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
ok originally i thought i was in the no on this topic and it was a part of Newcastle (WHICH IT IS), so why does this article say he's from Gosforth instead of Newcastle, shouldn't the article say Newcastle instead of going into tiny detail about this? if your going to go into detail, find out exactly where beardo and whatnot are from LUKE OUTCrabman123 19:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
User:80.41.18.121 has added a middle name of "Samuel". I am unable to verify this from any other source. Is this a fact? Daemonic Kangaroo 07:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
"The Lion Of Gosforth", "Big Al", "Wor Al", "Legend", "The Worlds Greatest", "Big Bad Al", "The Goal Machine" - Are all these for real or is someone getting carried away? Daemonic Kangaroo 16:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Different sources have slight variations on his height. Soccerbase[2] gives 6 ft 0 in whereas footballdatabase[3] gives 180 cm (which equates to approx 5 ft 11 in). My reference book agrees with the latter at 5 ft 11 in. Can any one give a definitive answer? Daemonic Kangaroo 18:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I note that someone has added a jokey section stating Alan Shearer may be gay on this webpage. I have tried to remove this section as I'm sure his wife and kids wouldn't agree, but this section seems to be hidden. Can anyone save Alan's reputation and remove this. It's above the section THE FUTURE. Mick4839 13:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Wife and Kids? as did Barrymore mate.. [unsigned]
i see someone has put that alan shearer regrets not joining man u because he could have won more trophies! i think you will find that shearer has never said this and that he has actually said that although people pelieve it was the wrong decision he did things "my way". IZutam 19:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)iZutam 11/03/2007ouch
Is this really relevent in the life of Alan Shearer?...
A moment of idiocy on some lower-end TV show is hardly relevent to Alan Shearer's encyclopedia entry. If it has to be on Wikipedia anywhere it should be on the shows own article. - The Daddy 17:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
What shearer actually said was "I think there's every chance that Wayne Rooney could go back to the Manchester United training ground and stick one on Ronaldo because he hasn't helped him there" I don't interpret that as encouraging Rooney to "stick one on" Ronaldo, it's merely a prediction that he might. I just think this part of the article has twisted what he said to make out he encourages acts of violence.
I'm guessing Score means the half-time score. It's not very clear. - Dudesleeper · Talk 10:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I removed a line of text about this - "He was also awarded the Barclaycard Merit Award in 2002 for scoring his landmark 200th Premiership goal, against Charlton[1] at St James' Park on 20 April 2002.". There seems to be a mistake in this as the BBC reports Bobby Robson as winning it that year. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 10:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Alan Shearer was not involved in Newcastle 2001 Intertoto Cup defeat to Troyes as he was injured for all of the games at the time. Also in reference to the Barclays Merit Award Shearer recieved one after the Charlton game, Bobby Robson also recieved one at the actual awards ceremony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.175.71 (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
This article showed that Shearer scored a total of 260 goals. This is not correct. The discrepancy was in the number of goals scored in the 2001/2002 season. The table indicated the total number of goals was 23, but he in fact (according to the Newcastle United official site which lists all Shearers goals(http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ShearerGoalDetail/0,,10278~757279,00.html)) he in fact scored 24. The official Premier League website (http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html) confirms that Shearer scored 261 goals in his career, including 24 in 2001/2002.
Interestingly, the total number of goals scored in the season (27 goals) is accurate.
I have edited the page to reflect the correct information.Nickpullar (talk) 17:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Shearer was banned for violent conduct a few times and many players who went up against him complained about him leading with his elbow in challenges. Should this not be mentioned in the article?
When was he banned for violent conduct "a few times" as you say? He only ever got 2 red cards, one was rescinded and the other (from Rennie against Villa in 99) is widely regarded as being nonsense. I'm not saying he was an angel on the pitch, he liked to rough it up a bit, but he rarely took outside the laws of the game and certainly wasn't banned "on several occasions". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.201.138.238 (talk) 19:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Please don't use this photo as illustration and please stop adding it back.
As mentioned in the editing area it is not a representative picture. I have seen this photo added here before and it was deleted on numerous occasions because it is a photo of Shearer after missing an important penalty against Sunderland (Newcastle's local rivals).
I see we have a prankster claiming to be an NUFC fan who took this photo himself. But I'm guessing this is someone trying to "take the piss" and get this photo up there. This is a press photo, proof of this is that you can find the photo in Gettyimages' gallery.
Please do not undo its deletion, thank you. - MattM4
What's with the constant changing of this section? It is now missing subtotals, for example total appearances and goals for Southampton. There used to be that line in the previous version of the table, now it's gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MattM4 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I've now amended the table to include the club by club totals and to fix various errors. The table now agrees to both www.allfootballers.com and soccerbase. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Was just wondering if anyone had any uncopyrighted pictures of the great man...??
It would help the page's presentation a fair bit. Besides, it makes me feel sick to look at other footballers on here who are no where near the calibre he set in the division!
Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.69.84 (talk) 18:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
As part of a general attempt to get the article up to at least WP:GA status, are there any user-taken photos of the Big Man out there that people feel like uploading? It would really help the article. - Toon05 15:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I've sent a request to use an image on flickr. Buc (talk) 15:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Shearer says he doesn't know how his goal celebration started. [5] Imagine Reason (talk) 00:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:Alan Shearer/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.
-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hopefully this satisfies all of the problems, but if I've missed anything I should be able to get it cleaned up pretty quickly! - Toon05 21:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
After the mention in the FAC review and on my talk page, there's some basic info about Shearer's personal life from his autobiography, My Illustrated Career:
The ref for this is <ref name=MIC/> - Toon05 19:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
An image being used in this article, Image:AlanShearerBanner.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. MickMacNee (talk) 00:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
422 goals for club and country? Really? Will someone verify this? -Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.216.178 (talk) 00:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
alan shearer gets in to the top ten on every list. he was a dirty player and this is well documented . the article doesnt give this aspect of his play enough weight. he broke more than one of his opponants bones...Remember this incident... sums up Shearer for me...
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=337283&root=extratime&cc=5739
Alan Shearer: Newcastle United - Leicester City, April 1998
Never afraid to put himself about a bit, Shearer has such a reputation and standing in the game that critics often suggest he is let off too leniently when he does cross the line.
This unseemly incident would make a key piece of compelling evidence for their prosecution. The England captain had his shirt tugged by Neil Lennon as the two competed for a ball, they fell and then Shearer's boot made a close acquaintance with the prone Lennon's face as he got to his feet again. Accident or design? The TV pictures looked pretty conclusive. Shearer, involved in the breaking of Ramos Vega's nose earlier in the season, had stamped on Lennon's face. Now he was for it, surely, but the big man wasn't worried.
'I was brought down by Neil Lennon and we both fell clumsily,' Shearer explained afterwards.
'As I tried to get to my feet I had to really tug my left foot free and the momentum of doing this looked on television liked a kick.' Right you are. 'It certainly wasn't and the fact that Neil is virtually unmarked [Lennon walked off with blood dripping from his face] confirms this. If I did accidentally catch him, I certainly did not mean to. I would never try and deliberately hurt a fellow professional.' And that, apparently, was more than enough for the FA who found the Newcastle man innocent of all charges just days ahead of a Cup final meeting with Manchester United. Check out the link to see the 'accident' [[6]] (Off2riorob (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC))
and here he is ..[[7]] at number six in The 10 worst examples of footballers behaving badly.. (Off2riorob (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC))
"...his playing style sometimes brought him criticism; most commonly that his play was too physical, and that he used his elbows too aggressively: it was this which led to both of his sendings off, although one was rescinded."
"An incident during a game against Leicester City in the league saw Shearer charged with misconduct by the FA,[30] with media sources claiming that video footage showed him intentionally kicking Neil Lennon in the head following a challenge.[31] The referee of the game took no action against Shearer, and he was then cleared of all charges by the FA, with Lennon giving evidence in the player's defence.[32] Former Football Association chief Graham Kelly, who brought the charges against the player, later claimed in his autobiography that Shearer had threatened to withdraw himself from the 1998 World Cup squad if the charges were upheld; a claim streuously denied by Shearer."
what was the name of that guy who's nose he broke ? and as I recall there was a leg that he broke too ( someone elses ) I'll source some quotes .. at the moment you might as well put shearer the god at the top. the article is totally one sided. its common knowledge and widely quoted that he was a dirty aggressive player and I feel the article should represent that.I'll get some verifiable sources and put them in. (Off2riorob (talk) 12:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC))
I've restored the version prior to Off2riorob's edits. This is for a variety of reasons; first off, the entry to the lede was copied directly from the source, and unquoted. A piece of such length does not belong in the lede anyway, which should be a summary of the whole article; giving one of five paragraphs to the opinion of one person is overkill and unbalanced. We also can't say that someone used "bullying tactics", it's completely opinion - to mention that we'd have to attribute it to whoever said it, not state it as fact.
The edits also mentioned several times that he won just one piece of silverware - that is already mentioned (pretty prominently) in the lead, there's no need to repeat it to skew the article negatively. "The striker turned down a move to Manchester United to join Newcastle and despite winning no silverware with the Magpies, he insists he has no regrets" has a definite negative slant to it; we have already mentioned that he won no silverware at Newcastle, and later in the article that he turned down a move to Man Utd - what he didn't do doesn't belong in the introduction.
As Jameboy stated in his edit summaries, the sources in the article also state that it was "strength" for which Shearer was noted; if you want to put "aggression", we are going to need it to be backed up by reliable sources, and for it to be mentioned alongside "strength". – Toon(talk) 18:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I dont mind attributing comments to people and just didnt realise this was ness.. I will replace that quote and link later .. not in the lede.. them we can open a new seperate section on his english career. do you really disagree that he was an aggressive player? I would say that this was ness in the era that shearer played. i'm nominating the article pov. as you have stated are clearly are a fan..and you have reverted even the smallest alteration. I will source as many quotes as I can find and we can insert them all if you wish. your article would fit well on a fanatical site but here a balanced article is prefered .. regards ((Off2riorob (talk) 19:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)))
I imagine (correct me if i'm wrong)! there hasn't been any editing here apart from supporters of alan.I wouldn't say the article was overly biased .. more like a little one sided.. dont confuse me with someone who is a football fan .. I am here more accidentlly than fanatically and saw your article as a little one sided and a place to attempt a little editing.. but oh no you like your article one sided and wouldnt even allow me to change a single word of it would you((Off2riorob (talk) 19:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)))
I also think it would be relevant to mention alan's penalty taking career..
like the fact that he has scored more penalties in the premier league than anyone ...56..
and some more for england and that he missed the penalty that caused newcastle not to go to the champion league final rounds.I have sources for these...
I think it important to mention that a high proportion of his goal tally were penalties.((Off2riorob (talk) 12:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)))
FWIW, his penalty tally was: Southampton 1 (out of 23 goals), Blackburn (19/112) and Newcastle (38/148) - thus of his 283 league goals, 58 were penalties (20.5%). Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 15:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
yea me too..as far as I know and I remember sources that said and I agree he was a real good penalty taker.. and if you take the penalties away he still has the highest goal tally...I agree he scored the most while at newcastle.. at sunderland he wasn't the penalty taker.. later in his career for england and newcastle he insisted if he was in the team he took all penalties.although he did miss a couple of 'big' ones.. I need to check the links ...I sourced last night but I think it was partizan... ill check.. this is just to balance the article that he wasn't perfect and that although he got a lot of penalties he missed a couple of the important ones.
commercial role .. I also think it would round the article up to mention that the job he had in a management cappacity at newcastle was termnated by the owner...ashley....((Off2riorob (talk) 22:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)))
ill thank you not to remove articles that I have placed here on the talk page for peoples comntemplation.although this only reflects your baised attidude towards the article... this is a talk page you dont need to defend it!I placed them here for people to see that the article is biased and written by fans of a shearer.I will place more articles as there are many.. to find... the truth is that a shearer was (outside of newcastle) considered to be a lazy goal hanger and an aggressive dirty player who thought nothing of injuring other players... and as far as his illustrious england career goes .. the quote that he threatened not to play if he was punished for attacking a lennon while he was on the floor was a reflection of his true nature.. you have removed the quote from his youth team coach that he was as a youth the most aggressive player he had seen. and I wouls also like the article to reflect that actually when the chips where down he was never there.. like the elbow on the keeper that cost us victory in the match against argentina and the important missed penalties.the article that you and the other couple of people guarding this biased article.. I would like whoever removed the articles to replace them they are examples of the other side of the coin to what you have portrayed in your article .. reads like a fanbase .. infact if you like I will like some toon fan sites that are equally as gushing as your article .. I have brough quotes that I would like reflected in the article and you just remove them (86.17.190.236 (talk) 22:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC))
hardly time for a decision! we're still working on the article. (86.17.190.236 (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
if we can find a comment anywhere that says he was any good at free kicks we can happily put it back. but on these grounds its a bit like saying as a footballer he had left and right feet (86.17.190.236 (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
I personally would have prefered sol to have had less of a chance without the elbow. the dissalowed goal is not the stand out moment of the match but it is one worthy of a mention. as for the sol cambell goal in the argentina match the fact that he played at left back and for the whole match are not so relevent as the dissalowed goal..and you mentioned shearers goal and penalty ..so I thought it worthy of mention. I imagine there were a lot of other people that played all the game .. seven or eight others.(86.17.190.236 (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
free kick taker. I don't think to score from an indirect free kick you are taking it.. it would be that you headed someone elses free kick in. so on these statistics it would be impossible to say he was a feared free kick taker. (Off2riorob (talk) 04:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
You know very well what is meant isn't heading the ball in from someone else's free kick (you really think that tally would only come up at 14?). Shifting the ball to an alternate striker of the ball is just as valid a form of free kick taking known as the indirect free kick my good man. MattM4 (talk) 05:08, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
alan shearer was not at all famous or respected for his free kick taking abilities. he was well respected goalscorer but not from free kicks. take d beckham .. do you think he was well respected free kick taker? yes! and now who is well respected free kick taker at man u..? yes.. ronaldo. alan shearer was never ever respected as a good dangerous taker of free kicks . unless you can find a scource i'm takin it out. can you find me anything anywhere apart from your idea .. that says this? (Off2riorob (talk) 06:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
you can't say shearer scored 14 goals from set pieces its just not correct.. indirect free kick. The kick is taken from where the foul occurred, unless the offence was committed within the goal area of the team awarded the kick, in which case the kick may be taken from anywhere within the goal area. An indirect free kick within the opposing team's goal area is taken from the goal area line parallel to the goal line (i.e. at least 6 yards from the goal line).
The ball must be stationary prior to being kicked. Opponents must remain 10 yards (9.15m) from the ball (and also outside of the penalty area if the kick is taken from within the kicking team's penalty area) until the ball is in play. An exception to this is that opponents may be within 10 yards of the ball provided they are standing on their goal line between the goal posts.
The ball becomes in play as soon as it is touched, unless the kick was taken from within the kicking team's penalty area, in which case it is in play once it has passed completely out of the penalty area.
A goal may not be scored directly from an indirect free kick, rather it must be touched by a second player before a goal can be scored. If the ball goes in goal directly from an indirect free kick, a goal kick is awarded to the defending team. If the ball goes in own goal from an indirect free kick, a corner kick is awarded.
The referee signals that a free kick is indirect by raising one arm until the ball has been touched a second time or has gone out of play. (Off2riorob (talk) 06:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
it's not a fight and I'm not spiteful...the comment you want to add is nonsense.. thats all.. look at it one more time ... the article looks better without it...the comment you want to add has no worth at all. without it the article is clearer and more concise.. with your idea you could also say he was good at corners..when there is nothing to really warrent this and it fails to improve the reflection of who alan was. free kick taking was not one of his real strengths was it.. if you want to add more try to think what his true values were.... I prefer simple and honest.. not fancy and floral. I feel that my few edits here are beneficial to the article but if you still want to debate it more then let me know! regards (Off2riorob (talk) 16:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
having been able to complete a few edits to the article in reference to alan's style of play and general aggresive style inc one aditional ref to use of elbows I feel the article is more balanced and I have removed the neutrality tag (Off2riorob (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
if you want to add that this fact was disputed then go ahead and add it .. have you got a direct quote from the owner ashley denying it?(Off2riorob (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
there was quite obviously a falling out and keegan went . .. alan stuck up for him and ashley called him up ... the three quotes you have are all the same comment ...newcasle deny reports... nothing fron ashley ... you know one of the problems at newc is the exadurated influance of alan shearer. no one can take charge cos the supporters are all the time waiting for shearer... anyway go ahead and put the quote that newcasle deny it.. have you read this... HATCHET MAN: How shadow slayer Ashley's decision to cut Shearer out of Toon was the right move at the wrong time By Hatchet Man Last updated at 12:38 PM on 15th September 2008 Comments (0) Add to My Stories
On yer bike, son: Alan Shearer has been removed from his ambassadorial role at Newcastle
Mike Ashley, the reviled owner of Newcastle, has finally got a decision about the club right.
Removing Alan Shearer as a club ambassador could help shorten the shadow which the former striker casts over every managerial appointment at St James' Park from the safety of a television studio.
He has flirted with a position on the touchline since retiring from the game a couple of years - or three changes of boss - ago and used his popularity among fans to make the eventual choices look like afterthoughts. Yet Shearer has never appeared to be serious about taking charge and needed to be put in his place. The timing of his removal, however, is like many decisions of the Ashley regime: hopelessly misjudged, and the reasons for the departure leave the owner with no credit either.
He has stripped Shearer of the role because the pundit broke from his normal approach and got off the fence to suggest he didn't think Newcastle were being run sensibly.
and please tell me what is wrong with alan saying the correct thing ... so he spoke up and this idiot sacked him .. it wasnt a real job anyway... and ashley is a fool...its good that alan told him to get lost...(Off2riorob (talk) 17:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
I personally agree with that was what happened ..so go ahead and put in your ...this was denied by newcastle and put a quote..its actually good for alan!if you like rewrite it to make the sacked seem less than sacked but .. I would like something left in about it .. it was widely reported and you have in the lede how alan is allways being linked to managerial roles and I think this appointment is relevant to that..(Off2riorob (talk) 17:46, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
it was rumoured that in alan's irrelivant position as ambassador to football at newcastle that ashley had sacked him over comments made by alan about the way the club was being run .. however this was denied by reports out of the newcastle press office .. however shearer has not been seen at the newcastle ground since then.... and no denial has been issued by shearer or ashley. (Off2riorob (talk) 17:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
I have rewritten that piece offering a more fair and less floral reflection. I hope you concord,. (Off2riorob (talk) 18:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC))
the free kick comment is irrelivent totally .. all players take free kick .. do you think that the number of goal he got from his free kicks is high or what .. I shall add stats if you like them! with your attitude you might as well put that he took corners and could pass the ball..(Off2riorob (talk) 17:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
well I imagine that if you had a look at say.. the attackers or the regular penalty takers then yes! as I said yesterday .. alan was not known as a good free kick taker!and it is silly to want it there when its worthless... think of some well known free kick takers ...alan is just not one of them.. perhaps it is wanted there to fikk up the section ..I dont know why??? alan was well known for heading goals .. a real high percent at newcastle and a high percent of penalties.. penalties and so on..I have left it there as it now doesnt say that he was good or able or anything.. if you are good at stats go and have a look at some other prominant attackers and compare their stats.. personally I prefer the section without it..(Off2riorob (talk) 18:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
david beckham ..GOALS Man Utd Free Kicks 30 Open Play 54 Penalties 4 Total 88 England Free kicks 6 Open Play 2 Penalties 3 Total 11 with david you would wax lyrical about his very high percent of goals from free kicks 36 FROM 99 but you wouldnt bother to mention that he also scored 6 penalties . (Off2riorob (talk) 18:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
dear toon do you intend to rewrite all of my inserts and replace all my edits? are you the owner of the alan shearer page that you will not allow anyone else to touch . there is nowt wrong with the passage that you have totally rewritten .. if you saw spelling missie then just correct that and leave my passage alone or do you want me to start rewriting your passages.(Off2riorob (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
I have replaced sacked as that was what was reported (Off2riorob (talk) 17:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
I am also a volunteer .. my attitude when raising issues here is a reflection of the response I have received from the people guarding the article...I am sure for your many valued contributions to the wiki you will be awarded many stars in heaven. (Off2riorob (talk) 12:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC))
I just altered alans booking total to 59 from the bbc. an undue percentage of these booking are from his newcastle career? 82 percent of his totalcareer bookings were at newcastle. in an approx 20 year career he spent half of his time at newcastle .. when you compare his total to say that of ryan giggs who has I think a longer career ryan has only 34 bookings. (Off2riorob (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
irrelevant statistic... free kicks ....Wikipedia:Trivia_sections (Off2riorob (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
I am saying that it would be relevant and worthwhile in an article about a respected free kick taker but alan wasn't one of them. (Off2riorob (talk) 22:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)) if you think about free kick takers of worth do you include alan?
I don't think what was it 2 percent of his goal at newcastle from free kicks is notable ..if as you say he took kicks on numerous occasions .. then was he actually the nominated taker? who was the nominated taker at newcastle in that time? can I also add that he was an able crosser of the ball ? for this I have found ref.? (Off2riorob (talk) 23:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
here is the crosser of the ball quote.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4400600.stm Rob Lee on Shearer I look around at the centre-forwards today and I don't see anybody in the same type. He could do everything, especially in his younger years. He was quick, he could head it or hold it, scored goals and when he got wide there's probably not a better crosser David Beckham apart. wow! (Off2riorob (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
matt...ask yourself these q .. Frequency - How often the player scores from free kicks Importance - How important was the game the free kick was scored in Legacy - What impact did the player have on the game from his free kicks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Off2riorob (talk • contribs) 22:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
have a read of this interesting article about shearers connection his old club.'Black Widow' Shearer answerable for Newcastle's demiseAlan Shearer's conduct over the course of this season has been cowardly and cruel, according to Michael Hann
Michael Hann guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 16 January 2008 11.52 GMT Article history
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jan/16/newsstory.newcastleunited3
I think if your gonna mention he is constantly linked to managerial positions there should be comments about the 3 or 4 positions at newcastle and other clubs that he has officially turned down so far. also some comments about his coaching badges ... how is it going with his UEFA_Pro_Licence_in_England?
I started writing this in relation to points above, but as that meanders from subject to subject I wasn't sure where to put it I have started a new section instead, and added some more comments about other things.
Best, – Toon(talk) 13:47, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
here are some of the official offers of employment he has refused ..was he also offered the portsmouth job?
do you know his current status as a uefa coach?
refusing offers of footballcoachng at england .. blackburn and newcastle.. (Off2riorob (talk) 14:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC))
I found a link that said he has got the pro.and another comment on a chat that said he had it but his name is not on the wiki pro list.. so I wrote to the link asking him where he got the information from.. ill put the link for you to look at..(Off2riorob (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 15:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC).
here ..http://www.shearer9.com/ after ..enter ..biograbhy..after football..it states this.. After completing his UEFA Pro Licence course, he was strongly linked to a move back to Newcastle as part of Kevin Keegan's coaching staff when he arrived for his second managerial spell at the club in early 2008. Media speculation also surrounded him in the following months as soon as any domestic managerial spot became available: Blackburn Rovers, Southampton or Sheffield Wednesday.. I mailed hm asking where he got this from.(Off2riorob (talk) 15:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC))
so could I say in the intro were it says shearerer is constantly being linked with managerial positions with his old clubs ... that although shearerer is as yet unqualified to manage a premier league team he is still often linked with such positions... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Off2riorob (talk • contribs) 20:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
well that is no longer true! .. and why would he want to do that when he seems to have had plenty of time to take the course..perhaps he doesn't really want to be a manager.. the other way in is ten years in the championship gets you a bye.. the Southgate clause is over and all have been given a final date of 2010 to qualify so alan is not even on the course and it takes over a year to qualify .. the next course won't start till 2010 so it will be at leastsome time 2011 b4 alan could have the certificate. imo it is better to start in the lower divisions to see if you are any good at it.. anyway .. just speculating .. no not for the lede perhaps in career after football .. perhaps its not really relevant .. just the other side of the coin if your going to include comments refering to all these supposed links to managerial positions..perhaps ill write to him asking him to clarify his position on these issues ..(Off2riorob (talk) 12:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC))
That is a personal interpretation and thus unsuitable for inclusion. In any case, it would be too minor a point to put in the lead. Oldelpaso (talk) 08:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Southgate has still for some reason not passed his pro licence and (did he fail it?) and he is currently running a good team down to the championship so that he will not need the pro! newcastle are also going the same way and then alan will not need it either...(Off2riorob (talk) 19:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC))
ok.Southgate IS currently on the course and is expected to graduate this simmer ...no one has ever failed the course! (Off2riorob (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
I don't think this belongs in the lede.. the fact that he has been "linked" but never offered a real job as matt says..and the fact that he has not even enrolled on the training course that would qualify him for such a job makes this nothing more than propaganda! this...Following his retirement from football, Shearer continues to be regularly linked with managerial positions at his former clubs; but he currently works in the media with the BBC...... its rubbish really perhaps it would be better in the after football section... I want to remove the statement....Shearer continues to be regularly linked with managerial positions at his former clubs; and take it to the after football section... where it would sit better .. that would leave the reality of ........... ......... Following his retirement from football he currently works in the media with the BBC. As well as his media work, he has raised substantial amounts of money for various national and local charities, both within and outside of sports.(Off2riorob (talk) 20:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC))
perhaps I have been a bit hasty in removing this from the lede as I read on the lede page that the lead should also get the readers attention and encourage him to read the rest of the article and the gossip is exciting even if it is only gossip!.. what does anyone think .. is it good to replace it .. and it is mentioned in the article and it could also be enlarged on in the article ??(Off2riorob (talk) 11:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
thanks.. yes a tabloid qoute perhaps needs looking at for extra verification.. I have changed my mind about the comment in the lede and replaced it .. It is mentioned later in the article with a couple of links...so it does add to the interest of the article and it is indeed more than gossip. sorry.. got a bit carried away. I think the article is more rounded now and has been well debated (Off2riorob (talk) 14:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
in this section which imo could do with expanding and rewriting... it states that alan is on the pro course ....alan has not as yet enrolled on the uefa pro licence course...(Off2riorob (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC))
thanks .I have replaced the sentence and inserted the link(Off2riorob (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
cool! ta for the editing tips toon and thanks for your comments daemonic kangaroo .. as far as my contributions to the article goes .. all of my issues have been resolved so take care ..and best wishes (Off2riorob (talk) 14:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC))
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