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The poster quoted the three different versions of The Bible it seems in order to provide a more full insight into the biblical reference at note five. The external link seems sufficient. The other classical literature references (1-4) above do not include extensive quotations from their sourced documents. It seems more consistent to use only the external link. (The link works great and directs a user to exactly the passages quoted.)
PBF 04:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it Bosporus or Bosphorus? I'm not sure. Danny
Both seems to be correct, with Bosporus as the most widely used. Howcome Bosporus redirects to Bosphorus and not the reverse? Bertilvidet 12:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
The usage Bosphorus derives from a confused analogy with phosphorus.Manormadman (talk) 05:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Manormadman
No, but I know from my schooldays that in ancient Greek it was Bosporus (the letter Pi, not Phi), and the confusion with phosphorus is the obvious explanation for the arrival of the H. But I could be wrong -- I sometimes am! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manormadman (talk • contribs) 11:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Is Cimmerian Chersonesus not a _city_ Chersonesos/Korsun'/Khersones, an ancient suburb of current Sevastopol? Why whole Crimean _peninsula_ is taken as parralel to the single _town_ Gallipoli? Mingis.
I've now put a fuller discussion of Bosporus/Bosphorus into the article, which seemed to warrant it. I've removed the Chersonese material as extrinsic to the topic: it belongs in its own article. But "Chersos" means "dry land" in Greek, and "Nesos" "island", so Chersonese is just Greek for a peninsular, of any size. If it is also the name of a suburb of Sevastopol (which is by the way built on the ancient Sebastopolis or "emperor's city"), that may just be a bit of archaising by a smart Russian property developer. Mark O'Sullivan 17:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Ancient Greeks suggested an mythological etymology relative with Io )(or preciously, Iô), daughter of Inachus and mistress of Zeus.
But, I suppose that the word "Bos-porus" is derivated by the name of Bessians (or Bessi), a people of classical Thrace.
The word "porus" means "passage, strait" in ancient Greek.
So, Bosporus means "the strait of Bessians".
--IonnKorr 20:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
As I remember Ryan and Pitman's book, the Bosporus has 2-way flow: near the surface fresh water flows from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, but lower there is a flow of salt water from the Mediterranear into the Black Sea. If this is correct, it would make the Bosporus one of the most interesting "rivers" in the world. If it is not correct, it should perhaps be noted by Wikipedia.
It is certainly true and it is indeed an interesting river. That makes navigating it even more interesting to say the least for those giant tankers that go in each direction.--Murat (talk) 16:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
some talk seems to be at Talk:Bosporus. I propose we move this article (back?) to Bosporus Bertilvidet 13:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was Move to Bosporus. Duja 13:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Bosphorus → Bosporus – "Bosporus" is the spelling found in most dictionaries and encyclopedias and is also etymologically correct. In addition, most editors on the page Talk:Bosporus seem to support such a move. Lesgles (talk) 01:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
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Does anyone have figures regarding the minimum depth of the strait, and maximum capacity a ship may have that can safely make passage?
The city of Constantinople wasn't renamed Istanbul until the 20th Century with the advent of the Turkish Republic; not in 1453. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.191.211.54 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC).
Isn't Istanbul just the Turkish translation of Constantinople? AFAIR the Turks always called the city Istanbul, even when it was the Bycantine capital. Der Eberswalder (talk) 01:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
In the English translation of Turkish Nobel-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk's Istanbul: Memories and the City, the author (or his translator) consistently uses Bosphorus. Also, the old wooden mansions on the shore are referred to as Yahs. Both versions differ from the article discussed here. Sca 02:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
You might want to fix this page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.145.184 (talk) 10:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
We need a gallery. DenizTC 02:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think this is a very current and important topic. Should be dealt with in more technical and quantitative detail. The passage requirements, protocols, radar monitors, relevant laws and rules should be detailed. Anyone more knowledgeable is welcome!--Murat (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Somebody (78.180.119.170) wiped out the full version of the article. I went into the previous version and saved it.Mother Mary (talk) 19:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this sentence is total bull: "...but the exact path is kept secret to avoid an early boom in land prices." What the fuck is wrong with a boom in land prices? 72.75.84.149 (talk) 04:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
As a Turk, it pains me to see Greece being called "traditional enemy" (under Strategic importance). Being an enemy with someone is not a matter of tradition, but rather of historical circumstances. I therefore hold that this comment be removed. This is an entirely unwarranted claim that should be removed.
--94.54.236.28 (talk) 09:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
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Seriously? You tell me there's this underwater river, but what direction does it flow?? 75.151.57.113 (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
"To the south, at Yeniköy, the necessary course alteration is 80 degrees." ???
Yeniköy, "a neighbourhood in the Sarıyer district of Istanbul, Turkey." [a quote from where the weblink points] is north of Kandilli Point; not south.
I see this has been an issue since 2006, but Wikipedia usually gets it right over time. Not in this case. Apparently, the decision to stick with "Bosphrous" was inspired by a naive google hit count.
Now, of course Bosporus is the etymological spelling. But Bosphorus is surprisingly common, and some dictionaries accept it as variant. As variant, mind, never as normal or primary spelling.
Of the "real" dictonaries polled at onelook.com, Bosporus is accepted by:[1]
By contrast, "Bosphorus" is accepted by: [2]: Oxford Dictionaries.
The Oxforddictionaries link redirects to the "Bosporus" entry as a matter of course[3], and there we have a simple note of "also Bosphorus".
I think this should speak for itself as to which is the primary spelling.
Now we are left with the task of tracing the unetymological spelling in -ph-.
This isn't just a naive corruption with "phosphorus" as has been suggested, it may be based on the Russian form, which is of course just as unetymological, but where Босфор is the only acceptable form. --dab (𒁳) 07:05, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't have decent sources on the origin of the unetymological spelling in Russian and French. I have introduced a "Name" section, and plan to add such references as I find them. --dab (𒁳) 07:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Hesychius, always great for otherwise lost words, has βύζαντες with a meaning of "filled up". This is connected to buzo "to stuff with, to clog, fill up". I discovered this based on the unreferenced suggestion on French Wikipedia that bosporos may be from buzo, describing the strait as it were as a "plug" of the Black Sea. And Hesychius' byzantes is in this case very suggestive of the name Buzantium. This is an excellent proposal, but of course we will have to locate it in academic literature first. There no way at all this hasn't been discussed in philological journals, it's just a matter of locating the reference. I am sure the editor of French Wikipedia had it in front of them but failed to cite it. --dab (𒁳) 09:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Any reason why we need navigation tips in the lede? --Pete (talk) 00:39, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The Formation section is pitching the Black Sea deluge hypothesis, with a sudden Holocene transgression into a freshwater Black Sea, as if it were, like, 'almost sure' or anywhere near current scientific consensus, which it certainly isn't. Most established geologists don't buy the idea that the Bosphorus has formed a sill cutting off the Black Sea at any point in the last million years, and the supposed evidence for a breaking through of the sill is highly controversial and insufficiently published in scientific terms (that is, some of it only exists as claims made by the people behind a half-obscure expedition, not as scholarly published data) even if it's made a splash in tabloids and on a few tv channels. The section should be speedily rewritten and properly sourced to reflect the real state of affairs. 83.254.154.164 (talk) 08:11, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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Does anyone know the maximum draft (hull) for a ship in the Bosphorus ?--Io Herodotus (talk) 18:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
The section Bosphorus#Submarine says
This reference to an expected opening needs to be updated. Loraof (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
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The claim "pronounced Vosporos in Ancient Greek" is wrong. (Unless it is referring to Koine Greek, and even then the claim is dubious.) Beta was indeed pronounced like an English /b/ in Classical Greek, and in fact the shift to a /v/ pronunciation was only came gradually with Koine Greek, such that it was probably present at the time of Constantine I, but not at the time of Alexander the Great. Thus, I recommend a change. 2A02:C7F:C617:6600:4DE9:F418:D575:51DF (talk) 03:03, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Is there no sea cable crossing?
Do the (3) aerial powerlines include glass fibre cables within an electrical cable? Usally the highest cable on (lowest) electrical potential earth is used in this way.
Further I expect the existence of directed radio or microwave transmission for data, telecommunication, radio and tv content.
Laser and radar beams could measure the distance and calculated movement of poits of the earth.
Does helicopter service play a role in tranferring persons, e.g. to hospitals?
--Helium4 (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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WikipedianUser12 (talk · contribs) has moved the page to "The Bosporus" however I don't see any discussion of this. The most recent discussion was to move it to "Bosporus". What are the Wikipedia rules on including the definite article in an article name? —DIYeditor (talk) 03:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
I knew nothing about this strait and came looking for clear basic information. What I found exceeded my expectations: maps and pictures with useful descriptive captions, and a clear concise explanation of the place. Thank you. 64.251.81.58 (talk) 18:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)