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Speaking of which I have a question to the article's authors. In which way the link with UAOC implies the apostolic succession?
Please elaborate anyone and correct me if I made any mistakes. I hope this is more interesting and useful than the copyright issues. Thanks, --Irpen 05:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
The problem of the article, contrary to the AfD nomination, is not lack of notability but a confusion. There are several denominations in Russia under similar names.
The most well-known is Русская Истинно-Православная Церковь (Russian True Orthodox Church)[1] also known as a "Catacomb church.
Another one is Истинно-Православная Церковь — Московская Митрополия (True Orthodox Church - Moscow Metropolia) formely known as Российскaя Истинно-Православная Церковь (Russia's True Orthodox Church)[2]. The TOC-MM seems to be the subject of this article, if I am not mistaken. So, it probably needs to be moved.
More info (in Russian) can be found here. (Skip to the 'Русские "альтернативные" православные церкви' section). --Irpen 05:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest moving it to True Orthodox Church - Moscow Metropolia as per above. The Russian True Orthodox Church is the name of a different nomination. Objections? --Irpen 19:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
It does seem as though underground has evolved into a pun, as the news networks have been describing True_Russian_orthodox members in a cave, some caves, tunnels,....
This article needs grammar.
Thank You,
[[ hopiakuta Please do sign your signature on your message. ~~ Thank You. -]] 15:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
As it is, this entire article appears to be original research. Frjohnwhiteford (talk) 12:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Would everyone agree with the sentence "The Russian True Orthodox Church is a denomination that separated from the Russian Orthodox Church during the early years of Communist rule in the Soviet Union"? I'm not sure members of the RTOC would agree they are a 'denomination' (might be a semantic problem, maybe of translation) that 'separated'. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
This page is called "True_Orthodox_Church" but should be called instead "The Russian True Orthodox Church". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Username148120 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed after several weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 02:30, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Russian True Orthodox Church (Josephites) → Сatacomb Church – Best known name outside its ranks. You can check wikidata to see all interwikis share this opinion. — Dennis Fry (talk) 11:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 15:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 08:53, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:RTOC - Russian True Orthodox Church which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
@Чръный человек: thanks again for your work. However, I have some doubt on the reliability of the "sergievhram.ru" website. It seems to simply be the website of a parish. Veverve (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
what about https://ipckatakomb.ru/ They seem to be legit catacomb church
Ladnerg310 (talk) 07:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)