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I think this is pretty self-explanatory. The Astre was simply a rebadged Vega, while the Monza was basically a mildly-restyled Vega with a new name--and initially just a trim level of the Vega. Best to avoid duplicity. Jgera5 (talk) 04:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While I agree with what Jgera says about the Astre and Monza, there's a lot of model-specific detail in all three articles and merging would produce an article that's too long and clunky (contra the merge guidlines). Writegeist (talk) 20:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I feel there is little to no need to merge these articles. They've been fine on their own without any problems, and if we're going to merge articles based off of other vehicles, we might as well just merge every single Pontiac model since 1980, almost all of which have a twin. I don't think any merging is necessary. GG360 (talk) 21:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support the merger of the Astre into the Vega article. These are essentially identical vehicles except for the rebadging and their marketing campaigns. Once the redundant material is removed, the single article will not be too long or clunky. On the other hand, the Monza is second-generation of the Vega platform with similar badge-engineered equivalents (1st-gen Pontiac Sunbird, 1st-gen Buick Skyhawk, and 2nd-gen Oldsmobile Starfire) that should be merged into one article. Thanks! CZmarlin (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The Astre started as a Canadian-market variant and was only marketed in the US later. Also, as GG360 stated, Pontiac was basically a badge-engineered brand from 1982 onward, with its only truly unique offering in this country being a badge-engineered Holden marketed here as the GTO. Trolleychai (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The Chevrolet Monza was always marketed as a distinct nameplate and always treated as a separate model by Chevrolet. The fact that mechanical components were shared extensively between Vega and Monza does not make the car a subseries of Vega by default. User:Scott cragstan (talk)Scott cragstan (talk) 00:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I would like to clarify and modify my response from earlier this year. The proposed merger would cover the entire platform and models. However, it seems there could be several approaches and thus the differences in splitting or merging. I think the following suggestion is most "supportable":
There are currently separate articles for the Chevrolet Vega and the Pontiac Astre. If the guidelines that have been established for articles related to rebadged versions of cars, the two WP articles about the Vega and Astre twins should be merged into one article. There does not seem to be any historic, geographic, or marketing segment significance to keep two articles about these identical cars. The resulting merged Vega/Astre article would not be long or unwieldily.
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