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Because the ecclesial tables are not fully correct it is therefore possible that there occurs a lunar eclipse op Easter Sunday. From 1583 till 3000 this happens five times, see this figures: https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/1901-2000/LE1903-04-12P.gif , https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/2401-2500/LE2451-04-16P.gif , https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/2401-2500/LE2471-04-05P.gif, https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/2901-3000/LE2908-04-08T.gif and https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/2901-3000/LE2935-04-10N.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.144.58.87 (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
What is that? Is it a 'lunar calendar month', i.e. a 'synodic month'? ...and why can't we edit this article freely? I thought Wiki had employees. Have you gone all George Bush on us? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.176.244.88 (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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"the White House hosts an annual egg roll on the lawn for children" this should be changed to an "annual egg hunt" Aktanaka00 (talk) 17:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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41.113.177.170 (talk) 00:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
I can't see how to investigate or fix this somewhat esoteric line in the infobox. Can someone else please fix or remove it? Scarabocchio (talk) 09:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello everyone! In this edit I removed a section titled "Religious observance". There are a couple of reasons for this removal. One is that it has been unreferenced since at least 2006 (not exactly the same text, but its predecessor). The amount of text that is entirely unreferenced may have been okay 12 years ago on Wikipedia, but by and large is heavily frowned upon in the encyclopedia today. Secondly, some of the content is cruft or else too specific for the Easter article itself, and belongs in sub articles like Easter Vigil or elsewhere. Lastly, this section was the cause for its non-appearance on the Main Page. Thanks. Killiondude (talk) 01:59, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Hazhk, in the last 9 months you have not added references to the content you restored. The page should be in a state where it can be presented on the main page for its observance this calendar year. I will remove the content again if you are unwilling or unable to make time to fix what you said you would. Thank you! Killiondude (talk) 19:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
It is not at all a reasonable idea to remove this section altogether. I agree it needs cleanup but the religious practise around Easter is central to the whole topic. Kipala (talk) 21:45, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Why? The main topics are the celebrations and the Easter-related public holidays in several countries. Who cares about the liturgical practices of non-secular groups? This is fancruft at best: "of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question". Dimadick (talk) 12:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi howcheng, is the article in good enough shape for use on the main page in a few hours? I removed all the unsourced info from the offending section and found a couple of citations to provide at least a bit of info there. Killiondude (talk) 19:41, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
This article has been swept clean of of anything other than the christian religious celebration of easter. I get that it is primarily about a christian holiday, but even for most devout christians there is still the joy of sharing baskets of candy brought by an imaginary rabbit. There is no mention in the article of celebration by non-christians, and non-religious celebratory traditions are relegated to a single paragraph at the very end of the article. Please consider how much of this holiday celebration is left out of this article, and how someone without a knowledge of the holiday would be getting a distorted and incomplete understanding by reading this article. This article is an excellent article on the christian religious celebration of easter, but a poor article on easter.Skeptonomicon (talk) 03:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Where Did the Name Easter Come From?
Easter most likely takes its name from the names of goddesses associated with spring, vernal equinox and renewal. Eostre was the Saxon mother goddess, the source of all things and the bringer of new life. Around the same time, Teutonic tribes worshiped the dawn goddess Ostara, who also represented fertility and rebirth.
pagan easter Ostara (1884) by Johannes Gehrts. Image: Public Domain. Other pagan cults and deities played a part in the formation of Easter, too. Around 200 BCE, the mystery cult of the goddess Cybele was popular in Rome and its surrounding areas. Cybele, another goddess of renewal and spring, had a lover named Attis, who was born of a virgin, and died and was reborn every spring.
The legend of Attis’ birth is also associated with other deities including Dionysius, Tammuz and Osiris – and, scholars believe, with the life and death of Jesus. As Christianity rose to prominence alongside those pagan beliefs, elements of the celebrations of Eostre, Ostara, Attis and other deities became inextricably intertwined with the Christian narrative of Jesus’ death and resurrection.
pagan easter 15th Century Painting: Lamentation at the Tomb. Artist Unknown Why Easter Falls on Different Dates
Easter doesn’t fall on the same date every year. Thus, even this aspect of the holiday is connected with pagan celebrations of the cycles of nature. The vernal equinox marks the time when night and day are of equal length. It’s also a celebration by pagan cultures to welcome the arrival of the long days of spring and summer.
For Christians in Western traditions, Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal equinox. This is a formula set in 325 CE by the Council of Nicaea, which established many points of doctrine for the early Christian church. Eastern Orthodox Christians celebrate Easter on a different timetable though – as much as three weeks later than “standard” Easter.
What Are the Pagan Easter Symbols?
Today’s Easter is a mix of symbols from Christianity and traditions far older. Alongside the overtly religious celebration of Jesus’ death and resurrection, people of all ages and beliefs enjoy colored eggs, egg hunts, candy rabbits, and chickens. Also, the Easter baskets filled with gifts, candies and springtime colors are an important part of today’s celebration.
pagan easter An Easter postcard depicting the Easter Bunny. All of these Easter favorites clearly echo pagan beliefs. Many of those beliefs were very much in tune with nature – animal births, seasons and cycles of the moon and sun. The rabbit, symbol of fertility and agility, was sacred to Ostara. Eggs, chicks, green grass and sweets speak to the ancient celebration of new life and rebirth during warm spring days. Many ancient pagan cultures exchanged eggs as a celebration of the changing season into spring and blessing of fertility.
Although Easter has become known as a Christian holiday around the world, celebrating the sacred death and rebirth of Jesus, the true pagan Easter and its symbols is a clear testament to the historical melting pot of cultures and traditions that make Easter what is is today.
Sources: Goddess Gift.“Easter: History and Traditions.” Accessed 6 Jun 2016. Religious Tolerance.“Easter: Its Pagan Origins” Accessed 6 Jun 2016. No Beliefs.“Happy Easter: Celebration of the Spring Equinox.” Accessed 6 Jun 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:80CD:A0C0:3063:C8A9:6CCA:D36A (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
If you want an informal, but scholarly, discussion of the "Pagan Origins of Easter" see https://blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2016/03/easter-bunny/?loclr=blogflt [11] JFLohr (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
@Indyguy: sorry to be in dispute with you, but it really is important to have individual citations for the dates in given years, particularly if we're using them for main page anniversaries. I don't know how the templates work, so I'm not in a position to add one for the eastern Easter, but we have one for the western Easter so I imagine that's possible? But absent that, it is better to have a hard-coded year than to have an uncited date. This article existed for years with no issues when the years rolled over, so it's not like it's a massive pressing issue, and what is important is what renders to the end reader. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 14:38, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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Easter was a holiday celebrated just for jesus and his well being
On the pagan holiday of Easter, as with most pagan holiday celebrations, there was a plethora of food to gorge on and wine to get drunk off of. They would sing, dance, and – a little vulgar but true – they would also engage in public nudity or have intercourse in the streets often with multiple people at one time.
Later on, the holiday also brought with it the Easter Egg Hunt and tales of the Hare."The earliest reference to the Easter hare (later the Easter bunny) does not appear until 1682 in Georg Franck von Franckenau’s De Ovis Paschalibus (‘Concerning Easter Eggs’). von Franckenau describes a tradition of Easter egg hunts (albeit with hens’ eggs rather than chocolate eggs) in Heidelberg and surrounding Protestant areas of Germany which is readily recognizable as the antecedent of present-day Easter egg hunts (Von Franckenau 1682). It was Jacob Grimm who then connected the Easter hare with the goddess, suggesting in his (1835) Deutsche Mythologie, that the hare was probably sacred to Ostara (a putative cognate of the Anglo-Saxon Eostre invented by Grimm)." (Lauritsen, M.) The Christian holiday of Resurrection Sunday typically starts with a church service on Good Friday – the day in which they believe Jesus was crucified with two others – and ends with a second church service that following Sunday – the day they believe Jesus was resurrected from his tomb. Christians have taken on the Egg Hunt and other festivities as a way to draw people in to their churches and also to fit in with modern times. (MDRM1998 (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2019 (UTC))
Subsuming of some pagan traditions into it where they fit, more like it. Easter is *the* big Christian festival. 2A00:23C3:E284:900:C4D4:B287:D3C2:3269 (talk) 00:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Pretty sure "modern Dutch ooster" is a mountweasel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A445:EB91:1:B0F3:616E:215D:7A5F (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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This article is incomplete and misleading as to the origins of Easter and many of its traditions, please see article referenced below
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism 2600:387:4:803:0:0:0:3C (talk) 17:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
"In the 20th century, some individuals and institutions have propounded a fixed date for Easter, the most prominent proposal being the Sunday after the second Saturday in April." That would still be a variable date. --Khajidha (talk) 18:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Currently the article says "However, in Canada Easter Sunday is a public holiday, along with Easter Monday." This is definitely not true.[1] Ltsiemens13 (talk) 20:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Change "He identified the matzah and cup of wine as his body soon to be sacrificed and his blood soon to be shed." to " He identified the bread and cup of wine as his body, soon to be sacrificed, and his blood, soon to be shed."
Scripture never refers to matzah but uses the word bread when describing the Last Supper. Orthodox Christians do not believe the bread used at the Last Supper to be unleavened bread. The use of the word bread is neutral giving a nod to neither Eastern nor Western Christianity and not offensive to either one's understanding of the Last Supper.
Also, I added some commas since without punctuation it is awkward to read. Wolverineguy55 (talk) 06:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
It is wrong. Easter is not and cannot be linked to the Jewish Passover. Many Slavic languages call Easter “The Great Night”. This is the night of resurrection of Jesus Christ. In Judaism people don’t believe in Jesus Christ so Easter cannot be linked to the Jewish Passover. This sentence should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.192.104.196 (talk) 03:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Concise Etymological Connotation of Esther by Charles O Fakiyesi. Charles O Fakiyesi (a Venerable in the Anglican Communion Church of Nigeria), writes in 2021 that Easter is possibly a derivative of the word Esther which Possibly means "star" in Persian. Alternatively, it could be a derivative of the name of the Near Eastern goddess ISHTAR. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_given_name). According to him, (Charles F)Since Christ's Resurrection connotes the victory of Christ over the power of the Grave; Victory of Life over death as well as the victory of Light over darkness; it is therefore apparent that Christ's Resurrection depicts the Star above all stars; the Light of lights; the Lord of lords and the King of kings. From these Etymological connotations, Charles opined that Easter therefore means the star of all Festivals. 2021, Charles O Fakiyesi (Ven)@Lagos Nigeria.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.89.3.253 (talk) 09:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Charles O Fakiyesi (a Venerable in the Anglican Communion Church of Nigeria), writes in 2021 that Easter is possibly a derivative of the word Esther which Possibly means "star" in Persian. Alternatively, it could be a derivative of the name of the Near Eastern goddess ISHTAR. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_given_name). According to him, (Charles F)Since Christ's Resurrection connotes the victory of Christ over the power of the Grave; Victory of Life over death as well as the victory of Light over darkness; it is therefore apparent that Christ's Resurrection depicts the Star above all stars; the Light of lights; the Lord of lords and the King of kings. From these Etymological connotations, Charles opined that Easter therefore means the star of all Festivals. 2021, Charles O Fakiyesi (Ven)@Lagos Nigeria.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VenFak (talk • contribs) 09:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
To all those who have contributed to this page, I was pinged that this article was pulled from the main page, today, because it was "undersourced", and I was asked personally to take a look at it. Now I am wondering if this is a belated April Fool's because there are over a hundred references and the overall article looks well done to me. So now I am all "WTF?!?" please excuse my French, but can someone please tell me what's going on? Was this article really pulled, and who did so, and on what basis? Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:32, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
I think it would be worthwhile/interesting to add information about Easter traditions of the pagan cultures after their conversion to Christianity, and also about modern secular Easter traditions, considering they come from the Christian holiday. It would be interesting to see how Easter traditions diverged across different ethnic groups. I think the History section could be expanded in this regard.
I seem to remember Christianity had a common strategy of taking the local pagan holidays, incorporating Christian iconography into them, etc. I think it would be especially interesting to know details on how this was done with Easter. I am not personally able to research it at the moment, so just bringing up the idea! --Pythagimedes (talk) 00:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
What seems like every damn year, the link to the dates table breaks because the heading is always changing. So, please, stop changing the d*** heading for: Table of the dates of Easter by Gregorian and Julian calendars, which is a m*****f***ing mouthful, so I fully understand that it will be changed yet again. ~~SirCrabbyPantz — Preceding unsigned comment added by WPGuin (talk • contribs) 21:06, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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How did these changes to the lead go undetected for two weeks!? The lead was gutted. Sourced content (alternative names) was removed while the references were retained. We had references supporting use of "Pascha" and "Resurrection Day" trailing "Easter" with no mention of the former two names.
In the run up to Holy Week perhaps more attention should be given to this article. --Hazhk (talk) 00:49, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Response to deletion of citations to primary source text quoted inline, 16 April
Our content policy on WP:PRIMARY:
After notability established and interpretation given by a secondary or tertiary source, nothing in this content policy requires that primary sources be expunged from the article. On the contrary, the may be used with care. And they should be used, to make straightforward, descriptive statements about the source of church doctrines that are described here from the tertiary source given.
Wikipedia is an WP:ENCYCLOPEDIA, and an encyclopedia is a tool for study, among other things, and we shouldn't abdicate that. The claim by RandomCanadian that it is WP:NOT a bible study tool, is WP:NOTPOLICY, it is NOT even found on the WP:NOT article, and it is a pure fabrication of the editor who removed these citations without justification. And a bad fabrication at that, IMHO. Wikipedia IS a study tool for the subjects of its articles.
It is irresponsible and unscholarly to state doctrine in the article while tendentiously ignoring or suppressing the primary sources for those doctrines, while appealing merely to some church authority for interpretation. It is, unfortunately, also a notable tradition in some major churches to do so. However, we are WP:RNPOV, and under no obligation to comply with this. WP:USEPRIMARY, but no analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis Jaredscribe (talk) 06:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a lot of other things as well. We cannot anticipate every bad idea that someone might have. [...] In general, "that is a terrible idea" is always sufficient grounds to avoid doing something, provided there is a good reason that the idea is terrible.The good reason why we shouldn't be citing primary sources in a topic like religion is that those primary sources are open to interpretation and many of those interpretations (often of the same textual passage) don't agree with each other. And, as you quote, WP:PRIMARY explicitly forbids any interpretation of primary sources - any interpretation must come from secondary sources. And selecting which passages of a primary source are adequate to support a claim of dogma (which, according to whom you ask, may vary very much) is in itself interpretation - one of many possible ones. Nowhere else on Wikipedia is there such a prevalence of primary sources as high as on Christian religion articles: this seems entirely obvious (because, of course, more of our readers and therefore more of our writers come from such a background) and yet also very counter-intuitive since one would expect that there would indeed be more secondary sources available about this (due to good old WP:BIAS issues), and that we could cite those instead. Those same secondary sources which Wikipedia is supposed to be a summary of (
Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources.). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources.The section in question had been already cited to secondary sources, supporting and interpreting the statements. Your additional Bible quotes are thus generally unnecessary and arguably WP:OR: why should we believe that e.g. Corinthians 15:12–20 support the statement
Easter celebrates Jesus' supernatural resurrection from the dead, which is one of the chief tenets of the Christian faith? Unless we're using the religious scriptures for direct quotations (for which ((bibleverse)) is expressly designed:
... be aware that the Bible may be considered a primary source, which should be used with care in sourcing Wikipedia articles), we always rely on secondary sources for their interpretation and analysis. Out of 135 entries in Reference section, I can't see barely any directly quoting the scriptures. Why do you feel those should be needed to explain Theological significance? No such user (talk) 08:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
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please add a section about its pagan origins 78.86.165.35 (talk) 15:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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223.191.35.145 (talk) 11:22, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
The article states as fact that Easter celebrates Jesus's resurrection from the dead. It is a known fact that death is final and therefore the statement is untrue by all reasonable objective measures of truth. For the purposes of accuracy and truth, therefore, the wording needs changing to "Jesus's SUPPOSED resurrection from the dead..."
We can accept of course that some people, in spite of all the scientific proof of the contrary, believe that Jesus rose from the dead. That does not mean that it is incumbent upon people to reaffirm that delusion. 217.41.40.231 (talk) 15:13, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
This article does say that candles are lit at church services on Easter Sunday. Should it also say that these candles are called "Paschal candles"? YTKJ (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Why has this article only been rated as "Low Importance" by Wikipedia: WikiProject Festivals? Since Easter is, along with Christmas, one of the two most important festivals in the Christian calendar, shouldn't it be rated as "Top Importance"? YTKJ (talk) 19:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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Change: The resurrection established Jesus as the Son of God and is cited as proof that God will righteously judge the world.
To: The resurrection established Jesus as the Son of God and is cited as the manifestation of God's fulfillment of His promise to bring salvation to the world through His own righteous hand.
Reference Isaiah 59:16
Justification: to refer to the resurrection of Jesus as proof that God will judge the world is unbiblical and nonsensical to Christians, and appears to be a biased edit. Jesus's death and resurrection is God's display of ultimate love and sacrifice to the world to offer himself (his son) as an acceptable sacrifice purely to save humanity. Fightcommunism80s (talk) 02:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Looking at some of the above comments, should this talk page be headed a notice saying that this topic may generate controversy, or at least remind potential editors of WP: PROMOTION? YTKJ (talk) 19:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
The Jewish holiday of Passover (in Hebrew, Pesach) commemorates the exodus of the Jews from slavery in Egypt. The holiday originated in the Torah, where the word pesach refers to the ancient Passover sacrifice (known as the Paschal Lamb); it is also said to refer to the idea that God “passed over” (pasach) the houses of the Jews during the 10th plague on the Egyptians, the slaying of the first born. The holiday is ultimately a celebration of freedom, and the story of the exodus from Egypt is a powerful metaphor that is appreciated not only by Jews, but by people of other faiths as well. 62.157.102.5 (talk) 05:37, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
The first sentence of the fourth paragraph says “The English term is derived from the Saxon spring festival Ēostre”, but it should say Anglo-Saxon, not Saxon. The reference for that sentence says Anglo-Saxon, and Anglo-Saxons are quite different from Saxons, who were and still are only established in Continental Europe and whose language is very different from English. Please correct this sentence. 2600:100A:B1E7:8F28:9CA2:E921:1AA2:4E52 (talk) 19:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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