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The source is used to support the psychosis claim are outdated considering the rapid advances in electromagnetic technology +- one source is 16 years old and the others are not much more recent. 2600:1017:B102:E7C7:0:55:D673:A301 (talk) 17:16, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
This should be removed, these weapons exist and have been not only discussed but physically demonstrated on national television by the military for mainstream media outlets. Even if this was not the case, beam technology or targeted/“hypersonic sound” can be seen as demonstrated in the Ted talk given by Woody Nooris (Ted talk is entitled “Woody Nooris: Hypersonic Sound and Other Interventions”) or on the website for the new MSG sphere in Vegas, where they are using beam forming technology to give individual audience members their very own, unique listening experience. There’s also Havana Syndrome…I think it’s time to remove this topic and give the public the chance to start fresh with a new page (if they wish to). Bluesmyfavecolor (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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Electronic harassment is considered a delusion by many medical professionals, however there are patents at the U.S. Patent Office owned by the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community proving that the technology to electronically harass people does exist. [1] [2] There are also historical events, such as the Moscow Signal incident, suggesting that electronic harassment may have been used by the United States and Soviet Union, against each other, during the Cold War. Bobduder (talk) 00:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Besides WP:FRINGE, the problem is WP:SYNTH. You want to connect Electronic harassment is considered a delusion by many medical professionals
with however there are patents at the U.S. Patent Office owned by the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community
when no reliable WP:FRIND source has indicated these two things are connected and need to be taken into consideration. And adding ...proving that the technology to electronically harass people does exist
is again, not supported by any reliable source, and dubious since patent filings don't indicate that a technology will work or does exist. There are also historical events, such as the Moscow Signal incident, suggesting that electronic harassment may have been used by the United States and Soviet Union...
Again, this article is about the delusion that ordinary citizens are being targeted by mind control technology. No reliable source exists that connects Moscow Signal (or Havana syndrome) to this delusion or suggests that it may not be a delusion because these incidents occurred. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:10, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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Withholding (25 year delay) of U.S. President-ordered reform supports allegations of U.S. victims-community and Public Suspicions On March 27, 1997, President Bill Clinton ordered all? federal agencies then known to do human research to jointly propose, and to attempt to adopt, changes to the governmentwide common federal Policy for the Protection of Human Subjects [the June 1991 'Common Rule'], which would require informed consent for all classified human research. This ordered policy revision for classified human experimentation would: prohibit waiver of informed consent; require researchers to disclose to subjects that the project is classified; require permanent recordkeeping, and, for all studies except minimal risk human research, to require that researchers inform human subjects of the sponsoring agency. In doing so, President Clinton sought to implement a recommendation from the October 1995 Final Report of the federal Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments ['ACHRE'], its Recommendation 15, which recommended "the adoption of a federal policy requiring the informed consent of all human subjects of classified research and that this requirement not be subject to exemption or waiver". Originally, President Clinton's order had stated that "Agencies shall, within 1 year, after considering any comments, promulgate final rules on the protection of human subjects of classified research." [1] However, as of the end of the Clinton Administration in January 2001, a draft notice for the policy change had not been approved by a few of the many agencies involved, and as of October 2023, this policy change has neither been jointly proposed to the Public, nor jointly adopted by the agencies. In June 2015, the U.S. Department of Energy ['DOE'] made a legal finding that the 'Clinton Memo' mandate "is still in effect and applicable to DOE". Subsequently, in January 2016, DOE adopted the basic Clinton Memo requirements as part of its internal policies. [2] In November 2011, the U.S. Department of Defense ['DOD'] changed its internal policies to clearly include requirements of the Clinton Memo, but subsequent revisions to the DOD internal policy since April 2020 have fallen away from clearly stating those requirements, notably abandoning the unambiguous November 2011 statement that "Waivers of informed consent are prohibited." Therefore, the U.S. community of alleged victims of so called "electronic harassment" - but which in reality essentially alleges non-consensual human testing, or other activities, involving advanced technology electromagnetic-signals monitoring and harassment of the human body and brain, typically day and night, most plausibly by the U.S. Government - has reason to worry about the likely involvement of the U.S. Government, because of the U.S. Government's refusal to adopt changes to the governmentwide federal Policy which would clearly prohibit non-consensual classified human experimentation. This non-adoption should cause the Public to be suspicious as well. At the least, (as of October 2023) the U.S. Government appears to not be dedicated to safeguarding the basic U.S. constitutional rights of its citizens from non-consensual classified human testing programs. The requirement for informed consent for all human experimentation is part of the Nuremberg Code, is part of the I.C.C.P.R. human rights treaty (at ICCPR article 7), and is considered as a requirement by the [U.S.] Belmont Report - which remains a Congressionally mandated statement of the basic ethical principles under which federal sponsored human research shall be conducted. [3] HRtsFan (talk) 12:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC) References
Not done An anonymous essay claiming that certain language contained in legislature indicates the US government secretly intends non-consensual testing on humans. No, Wikipedia doesn't indulge evidence-free speculation. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |