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The NPFA has kindly sent me a document today which describes it, together with full permission to release this into the public domain. I am about to add it to the NPFA article. Fiddle Faddle19:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wholesale insertion of the above material 2.5 years ago has left the article for all this time in breach of NPOV. This needs urgent attention. --Dweller (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are mistaking NPOV and an advert for material that has been inserted with permission. What I suggest happens is that the material that was inserted remains precisely as that, an insert with permission, and that the rest of the article is created around it. It can be made even clearer that this was reproduced with full permission if you feel it is so offensive, but I do not accept that it is an advert, primarily because these people sell nothing! So I am removing your advert tag. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you kidding? They don't sell anything? Ever heard of fundraising? And NPOV applies whether we're talking about a corporate, a charity or a motorway in Kenya. We can't just bung material they give us into an article and accept that makes it OK - if it's not in quote marks, it's Wikipedia saying these things, which is totally unacceptable. OK, rather than revert your reversion, I'll do the legwork and make it NPOV. --Dweller (talk) 10:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't recall being impolite to you. Please do not be impolite to me. This is Wikipedia and the changes you made are changes you made, in the same way that I created the article you have edited it. Doubtless others will also edit it and bring their opinions to bear, too. I do take exception to "Are you kidding? They don't sell anything? Ever heard of fundraising?" which I think could have been said in a substantially different manner for you to make your point successfully.
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