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There are some major concerns regarding this article, notably coming from the subject of the article itself, who has contacted the office, somewhat understandably about his portrayal. The Thompson book is a major source of information about the article, however, as evidenced as indicated by the out-of-court settlement, the facts coming from the book may be brought into question.
I am not suggesting we overlook all of the editors' hard work on achieving featured status on this article, notably that of Cla68. On technical merits, the article is indeed a quality piece of work!
The subject of the article would like it deleted. My interpretation of our policies is that this would be very difficult to accomplish. However, we should not dismiss the subject's concerns out-of-hand, as there is some merit. However, given the nature of the book and its heavy bias against the subject of the article; as well as the out-of-court settlement, the weight of the book in the article should be questioned, and any fact derived from the book should be backed up by additional sources. I hope we can do so, with the help of the major editors of this article. Bastique demandez 18:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Done. Cla68 (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I have my copy of the Thompson book now. I was hoping to find footnotes, so I could further trace particular pieces of information. However, there are no footnotes. I'm pretty disturbed by the lack of footnotes to indicate where Thompson got particular bits of information that are in the book. There only is a list of people interviewed in the appendix and vague reference to documents. As a BLP, I think the standards for sourcing should be higher. I would like to see information in this article backed up by multiple sources and not rely solely on Thompson's book as the only source for certain information. --Aude (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I would like to start reviewing the article by looking at the first section. Details that appear in the Schwoebel, and Schwoebel is quoting Moosally's own statement in a hearing. The same statement is found in the Senate hearing documents [1], with snippets available for search on Google Books.
Steve Vogel's 2001 article in The Washington Post is a source for:
The sources (just the Thompson book ) are inadequate for Moosally's date of birth. I suggest just saying that he was born and raised in Youngstown, and don't mention the date.
I also think the sentence saying "Moosally was one of six children ...Syriac Maronite Church" needs to either be removed or backed up by other, more reliable sources. --Aude (talk) 00:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
BTW - Thompson's book is not available on Google Books for searching (not even snippets) and I know it was never published as a paperback. I wonder if the unavailability of the book (except for used book stores) relates somehow to the lawsuit and court settlement. --Aude (talk) 00:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I now have some court documents to look through over this weekend. These documents don't appear to be available online yet (except for the official court opinion), though I hope that some can be made available online such as through the South Carolina court website or another such place. Offline but accessible sources (such as obtained from the Naval Historical Center) may also work. --Aude (talk) 00:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm busy changing all the inline refs to links, and consolidating them into a single ref name=" where possible to easily see how much a ref is used. -- Jeandré, 2009-05-16t14:49z
This is a featured article. It's supposed to be Wikipedia's best work. I have no desire to try to remove the star. However, in approving it, some may have looked too much at the details and lost focus over the main article.
The article changes focus in the middle changing from Captain Mooseally to the Iowa. Some details are about Mooseally but about the ship. There are also problems in the focus of the Wikipedia article.
In the spirit of cooperation, I will not challenge the promotion but think that someone who knows about Moosally should re-write it. User F203 (talk) 17:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
An earlier edition (1973) of the Register has Moosaly's class standing as 821, not 812. The 1998 edition puts it at 185, clearly an error.
The 1998 Register lists his retirement date as 1 July 1990. The date cited in the article (May 1990) is probably the date of the retirement ceremony. Not unusual for one to have a retirement ceremony, then remain technically on active duty while using up unused leave time.
An earlier edition (1973) of the Register has Moosaly's class standing as 821, not 812. The 1998 edition puts it at 185, clearly an error.
The 1998 Register lists his retirement date as 1 July 1990. The date cited in the article (May 1990) is probably the date of the retirement ceremony. Not unusual for one to have a retirement ceremony, then remain technically on active duty while using up unused leave time.
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