Japanese Bug Fights was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 14 April 2020 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Insect fighting. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
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Guys? insect bench press? come on. the entire training section needs deleted. im on it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.38.142.251 (talk) 01:02, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated it for speedy deletion. Although I can believe that there have been staged insect fights, even shown on YouTube, none of the information in the article is cited and a lot of it is just plain silly. For one thing insects are pretty much hard-wired to do the things they do. They can not be trained to be more aggressive, nor would they run from the ring in fear. These emotions are way above their level of consciousness. Steve Dufour04:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Then the subject is not a hoax, but the content needs rewritten...? I will agree with you that there are/were silly claims here, but I don't think this is a speedy delete candidate. daveh4h05:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the speedy tag, but I could understand nominating this for deletion. Any of the crap in it may get sorted out through that process. daveh4h06:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are probably right. I checked out the article on cricket fighting and there seems to be some content there. I don't know what should be done with this article. I'm not sure if there is a general subject "insect fighting" which covers both the traditional Chinese cricket fights and modern YouTube insect fights. Steve Dufour16:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and AFDed it as you suggested Dave. We'll see what happens. If this really is a notable subject it should have a worthwhile article. Steve Dufour16:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well Steve kind of has me wondering what kind of sources could be found for this article. I'm interested to find out actually :-). 68 if you have any other refs add them to the article or put them here and I'll check em out. Or you could put them on the AfD. daveh4h18:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've just read an article on Cricket Fighting by Hugh Raffles in Granta 98 - Granta is a literary magazine in the Uk. Hugh is publishing a book in 2009 called Illustrated Insectopia, in which the article on Cricket Fighting forms a part.Phils.roberts 06:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please read references added by twiknham. I apologize for not making the references neat at the bottom, I do not know how to do this yet. Thx. Twiknham 05:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Was this dispute founded mainly on the fact that insects have no blood and thus can't be involved in blood sport? "Blood sport" is just an event or activity deemed cruel or harmful. Do we really need to call this a hemolymph sport??
To the above: I don't think that was the crux of the "dispute".
User Twiknham added some good info that I have rewritten and added. One part that I took out is listed below:
There are two other articles of particular interest: "The Fighting Beetle" www.chiagmaiinfo.com/articles/13beetlefighting.html and "The Mettle of the Beetle" by Chompoo Trakullertsathien, www.thaibugs.com/Articles. There is some discussion within these articles about exporting to other countries; but I read several news articles, not referenced here, about people being fined for trying to smuggle into their countries these non-native species of beetles from Thailand.
The insect training section is absolutely ridiculous. I read stuff like that and it has no place in an encyclopedia. There is no “insect language,” insects won’t expect ANY “move” and insects certainly do not punch and kick, nor have favorite “finishing moves.” This section appears to have been added as a piece of fiction. Maybe in the insect fighting world they really believe this, if they do, this section could be re-written with a more serious approach. Rip-Saw11:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it's funny but not what we really want to see for wikipedia. As such I've tagged the article for lack of references/sources and original research. --SRHamilton 03:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I recently read a book about ants and it seems that insects do have blood after all, even if it is not red. I will take the disclaimer off of the first sentence. Steve Dufour13:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article has nothing to do with animal rights. The article does not discuss or make any mention of the subject, the article is only about the activity. How then is this within the scope of the wiki project and why does it have an Animal Rights navbox on it? Alhanalem (talk) 06:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A bit late to respond, but I've seen objections to it on animal cruelty grounds. By definition, it's a blood sport. It's true that the coverage of insect fighting as an animal rights issue is not discussed in the article, but... well, it's a stub. It's not expected to be complete at this stage. Tezero (talk) 03:59, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the references in this article strike me as doubtfully encyclopedic, and I commend them to the attention of other editors. However, the following one, which I have removed, is at once redundant, unencyclopedic and spam. [1] Anyone wishing to replace it, please justify its presence here on the talk page. first JonRichfield (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. But when will the article be fixed? It has few sources and it may actually not be so accurate. I posted this message in the article but it was reverted as vandalism.
Well, I had thought that a more general discussion of arthropod fighting might be nice to have here, but I don't really see much about any kind of insect fighting other than crickets. I had also thought that a disambigation page here would be useful for reader convenience, since we have articles on cricket and spider fighting (even though spiders aren't insects)...but I guess that might encourage classification confusion, so I suppose the redirect is the best option. Chubbles (talk) 14:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Japanese Bug Fights was merged here after a very poorly-attended and poorly-reasoned AfD. This merge should not have occurred; Japanese Bug Fights is a web series, but the only !vote in the AfD mistakes it for a class of activities. Chubbles (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]