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i don't think i did it right, but the third paragraph under vengeance makes statements without citations. this should be rectified.--65.113.35.130 (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I moved the following statement from the article to this page for discussion.
"in New York for El Al. This is apparently his only security experience."
It is unclear whether the "apparently ... only" modifier is true. First, Aviv claims he was a member of the Mossad. Second, the article states that he was a member of the Israeli armed forces. My understanding of "security experience" is that both the (not indepentdently verified) Mossad connection, and the (presumably independently verifiable) military experience would count as "security experience." --Zippy 22:05, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Of course it is difficult to obtain corroboration of Avner's or Yuval's account. That is difficult in ANY industry. Anyone who breaks ranks and leaves and then gripes about what he or she has left behind is difficult to get written support on from those who are still in it because their livelihoods depend on it. That is true for pretty much any business out there. That doesn't make the whistleblower right or wrong. The best indication is that the industry says nothing because then one can presume that they don't wish to argue any evidence the black sheep who left has. I have seen that numerous times just in business. A prime example is ETL/SEMKO/Intertek/Warnock Hersey. Check the talk page. I would put that sort of thing into the article, that, yes, we can't find independent written corroboration, and it's unrealistic to expect any in such a case.--Achim 10:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have sources for his birthplace, education, and work experience? It would better to say "according to ..." given that nothing is known for certain. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
A member with the screenname "Ogadeux" has purposefully posted blatently false information on this article several times now. I removed his first false edit, and I am going to remove his latest, which says
"As it turns out Mr. Aviv is a complete fraud. A known pathological liar, he has no MA degree in Business from Tel Aviv University (see if he can produce a diploma) and he never worked for Mossad (according to Mossad). He worked for a short time as a flight attendant with El Al and the extent of his security expertise is as a luggage searcher at Kennedy airport. When he got tired of driving a cab in NYC he made up a fantastic yarn and sold it to George Jonas who then wrote the book Vengence."
I am new to Wikipedia, and I have joined just to take care of this problem. If anyone knows how to lock this article so that Ogadeux can no longer falsify it, please do so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcarter67 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
Spbraswell, you keep removing criticism and adding book reviews and other glowing material as though this were the subject's personal website. Please try to write in a more neutral tone, usingn reliable sources. Dust bunny 07:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
interesting... been checking -- FOX ran him http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html
and I found this later find interesting.
Why? I know what CIA did to Keith Hall - and because they did what they did to Keith (ignored his findings & reports - he was the head investigator for the Embasy bombing in Beruit ) the Marine Barracks was blown to sheet. Something Keith, also a Marine still deals with. ( Google Captain Crunch )
Entire story is here: http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/lockerbie/resources/story_aviv.html
Asked recently to back up that characterization, Hurley, formerly of the DEA, faxed us a letter dated May, 1990. The letter, signed by Yigal Carmon, "Israeli Prime Minister's Advisor for Countering Terrorism," says Juval Aviv never worked for Israeli intelligence and was fired from a low-level job with El-Al airlines for "dishonesty."
The letter is on plain white paper, not Israeli government letterhead. We faxed it to the Israeli Embassy in Washington DC . A spokeswoman said the letter did not have the look of a letter sent from the Office of the Prime Minister. When reached at an office in Tel Aviv, Yigal Carmon said he "did not know of anyone called Juval Aviv" and refused to discuss the contents of any letter with us.
A spokesperson for El-Al Airlines in Tel Aviv said he was unaware of any such incident of "dishonesty" by Juval Aviv, or of any firing of Aviv.
Aviv, for his part, produces several documents that he's entered into court refuting the accusation that he lied about his background. The documents include an FBI memo about Aviv from 1982, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, and a contract between Aviv and the US Justice Department, dated 1984. Both refer to Aviv's past association with Israeli intelligence. As late as 1993, an FBI agent wrote to Aviv asking for assistance in a tax-recovery investigation, even as other government officials were publicly calling Aviv a fabricator.
In public attacks against Aviv in the mid-1990's, government officials also pointed out that he'd been arrested for alleged mail and wire fraud. The fraud charge was filed in 1994 after an investigation by the FBI. The charge: that Aviv had defrauded a corporate client, General Electric Capital, in a small contract a few years earlier – that he'd claimed to interview people on a fact-finding trip in the Caribbean whom he'd never really interviewed.
But at the trial in 1995 in the Southern District of New York, Aviv produced records showing that he had in fact conducted all the interviews for which he'd billed GE. The jury deliberated for just 90 minutes before acquitting Aviv.
After the verdict, the presiding district judge, Louis Stanton, wondered aloud in the courtroom why the FBI had gone out of its way to prosecute Aviv given that the alleged victim, GE Capital, had filed no complaint. In fact, GE representatives testified that they'd been entirely satisfied with Aviv's work. Stanton also pointed out that the fraud charges resulted from an investigation by two agents who were working on aspects of the Lockerbie case. The judge said those circumstances led him to infer that the fraud charge against Aviv "was generated from some other source, and the only source in the record so far for which any such purpose could be ascribed is the report in the other case, in the Lockerbie case."
Clearly, none of the government's behavior toward Aviv proves that Aviv's claims about the Lockerbie bombing are true. Aviv insists that from the start he's been willing to listen to proof that his report is all wrong. But Scottish police investigating Lockerbie have never interviewed him or asked him for his sources.
"I was never told directly that [my report] was wrong," Aviv says. "I was always attacked as the messenger, as somebody who was a fabricator, a lunatic, whatever."
This whole section needs removing in my opinion. Wikipedia is not a list of every piece of information (WP:NOT). There are no sources for this information. I'll wait a while before delelting it. Comment if you object. Smartse (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Smartse...you make a rather suspicious habit of removing all positive information and obsessively replacing negative information which has been removed time and time again by various people because of falsehoods and inaccuracies. You use Yossi Melman as a source no fewer than 4 times in the same entry, even though he clearly has a negative bias against the subject. As for the quotes from the Village Voice article, the FBI agents quoted were involved in bringing a baseless fraud case against Mr. Aviv which was thrown out of court. This context is not mentioned in the article, even though it would give the reader reason to take whatever they say against Mr. Aviv with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, this type of information is difficult to source in the press However, if you're interested you can look up the info yourself...The case was USA vs. Aviv, Case #1:95-mj-00469 User:BertramR —Preceding undated comment added 20:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC).
Just bear in mind that Yuval Harari has no article and no link in the Hebrew Wikipedia. When you search for him in the Hebrew Google what you get is experts and impotrant and knowledgeable journalists who call him "crook" and "liar". Head of the Mossad at that time of Operation Wrath of God, Zvi Zamir, said he has never heard about such an agent by the name of Yuval Aviv. In Any case, the man who has initiated, planned and commanded this operation was Michael Harari, the legendary Mossad agent, and there was no Yuval Aviv in the neighborhood at that time. Every Isreali expert will verify all these facts mentioned above. It is obligatory that this article, this fraud, will be wiped out and disappear!46.117.231.164 (talk) 15:20, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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"Sam Green" is given in the infobox as an alias, yet is both absent from the article itself and is unreferenced. In addition on the dab page Samuel Green, Aviv is described as a "novelist", which, again, doesn't appear here. Davidships (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)