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VFD vote archived: see Talk:List of Melbourne bus routes/Archive 1
I wish to thank everyone who worked on this article. It's great and very interesting. I would like to see more like this. Optim 15:30, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Where is the information for these coming from? It seems to me that the National Bus section clashes entirely with http://www.nationalbus.com.au/national.html, which doesn't seem like a good sign. Ambivalenthysteria 12:57, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
This question is related to disambiguation of the term "Upfield" on this page.
What is the syntax used for an entry like this below?
531 - Coburg North - Upfield - Broadmeadows
Obviously the first item is the route number, the last is the operator, but what about the other two?
Route # - ???? - ???? - Operator
Thanks for clarifying this. I would suppose at this point that Upfield should be revised to Upfield, but I await your input before making that change.
Regards, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't this whole section be a lot more suitable at Buses in Melbourne instead? It's also incredibly negative - while there's a long, long way to go, it's still the only form of PT in some areas. invincible 08:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing this section because it only focuses about the lack of service levels and its apparent uselessness (though I beg to differ, a lot of routes are suffering from a lack of capacity) and this article isn't the right place for them anyway. The section has since been renamed to "Melbourne Buses" but it's the same content. invincible 11:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Here's the text removed:
Unlike Melbourne's train and tram networks, which are operated by one company each, Melbourne's bus network is operated by a multitude of private companies. These range from small firms with one or two routes to large organisations that run several dozen.
Apart from some outer area and airport services, bus companies participate in the integrated Metcard ticketing system and receive operating subsidies from the State Government.
Compared to the world-famous tram system, and the suburban electrified rail system that penetrates outer suburbia, buses in Melbourne are very much an afterthought, despite being the only public transport that is within walking distance of about 60% of the population.
The average Melbourne bus route operates every forty minutes and stops before 7:00pm weekdays. Most routes operate approximately hourly on Saturdays. Despite trading hours being de-regulated in the 1990s, only about a quarter of bus routes operate on Sundays and evenings.
It is common for buses every 30 minutes to 'feed' trains running every 20 minutes. Thus connections between buses and trains are more a happy coincidence than because of service planning. Passengers arriving by train are often better off walking home than waiting for the bus, contributing to low patronage. Unlike trams, bus routes tend to be circuitous and passenger information at stops is often missing or inaccurate.
These attributes have made buses a 'mode of last resort', and, except on the few routes that do run frequently, provide a 'social security' type service used mainly by those without a car.
Some improvements have recently been made to bus services in Melbourne. These include extra Sunday services on some routes, route extensions to new estates and three 'SmartBus' routes serving major roads. However until improvements are forthcoming on the majority of routes, most residents will continue to have a long wait for the bus and will prefer other transport modes.
invincible 12:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
It looks like a revamp of the metlinkmelbourne.com.au website has broken all links
http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/timetables/timetable_options.php?type=bus&id=MTB237
is now:
http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/line/view/2071
There doesn't appear to be any correlation between the route number and the URL. Alternatively, all links can be fixed quickly by using the search page:
http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/metlink/quicksearch?searchText=237
My recommendation is that all links are fixed by using the search page (one edit, search and replace), and then everyone can help by replacing the link to the search with the direct link. Jayvdb 08:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I have produced a template that's fairly easy to use, that will generate the appropriate link automatically. The template is Template:MetlinkBus, and the instructions for its use are on that page. The good thing about doing it this way is that if Metlink change their links again, it's basically just a search-and-replace to fix it all. I'll start correcting the links using this template now; if there are any problems feel free to let me know. --Evan C (Talk) 10:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be seprate articles for each route like the trams and trains?--Adammw 23:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I plan to do a bit of work on this page, giving every route a link where possible, and having one constant format for the whole article. Please excuse anything that looks half done, I WILL get around to fixing it, whenever I can... Kiwichris1709 (talk) 13:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Update: All routes are now in a table. The next step is to provide links for all routes, and find any missing routes.
Im not if this has already been discussed, but is it worth creating separate articles for each bus route? Davido321 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 09:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth tiding up this page with a new metlink template to make it easier to keep to date linked timetables, or keep them in tables as is to date, where routes can be modified, with new timetables not getting relinked from the MetlinkBus templates. I originally set it up as a table thinking it would make it clearer, but now realizing changes to timetable links become harder to monitor, and when new routes appear/disappear, it becomes a pain to work out what needs to be adjusted. --Huyie (talk) 14:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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Some of these routes no longer exist, especially since the introduction of the Regional Rail Link. As a result some of the automatic link through metlink no longer works. http://ptv.vic.gov.au/june21timetablechanges/bus-network/wyndham/
Should we put it into a list of former routes or just delete them? I like to archive them into a list for historical purposes. 110.22.236.11 (talk) 01:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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I propose we get rid of this section. This is meaningless as not many people are interested in which routes are operated by individual operators and either way that information is already available alongside every route. Ajf773 (talk) 04:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
This also serves as a rough geographical grouping of bus routes, one I would personally find useful. You can see that the numerical sequencing is not related to company routes. It has taken some effort to do this grouping, I see no point in removing it. Teraplane (talk) 01:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
There has been a hatnote on this article for some time about the possible incorrect use of external links. There are hundreds such external links in this article which are mainly created by template Template:PTVBus or its predecessor Template:MetlinkBus. These templates have now been removed from all other articles where external links have been replaced by references. This leaves this article as the only one using these templates. However it is felt that replacing all external links by references in this article would create an excessive number of references - many hundreds. What should we do about this? see [1]
This is also the only article listed with an incorrect parameter in [2] but because the links are not listed in the article I have not been able to find which route contains the error. Any assistance here would be appreciated.Fleet Lists (talk) 02:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)