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Should we exclude elections that didn't have at least 1,000 total votes cast? For example we now have Akulliq, Nunavut (2008) 0/463 and Ranklin Inlet South, Nunavut (2013) 0/344.
Also, we would otherwise have to include for example all 258 instances where the US Senate was tied (and the US vice-president had to break the tie). Jimsmith1978 (talk) 06:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I've been using the 1000 vote limit, and eliminating local elections and the 0.1% margin threshold, but looking through Massachusetts' very searchable database, I found like 30 elections between 1970 and today. I think we need to up these limits or the list will get unwieldy. I suggest the following: 1. Keep all ties and single vote margin elections (not counting local elections) 2. For all others, set the limit at 1000 votes for the winner and a margin of less than 0.01%. That still leaves a lot of close elections, but makes the list much more manageable. Volcycle (talk) 19:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
It is fairly common in UK local elections for exact ties to occur where two candidates receive exactly the same number of votes. Such an incident occured, for example, in the Osterley ward of the London Borough of Hounslow in 1998. In such cases, the Returning Officer uses 'any random method' to award the casting vote to one of the candidates and thus determine the winner.
A couple of such incidents occur in every set of local elections (i.e. every year) and they'd probably be too numerous to list in this table. Perhaps a List of tied elections article should be set up? --81.19.57.170 10:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
This article says Marcus Morton won the Massachusetts gubernatorial election of 1839 by two votes. The article on Marcus Morton says that he won by one vote. According to snopes at http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/onevote.asp the election was by one vote. Nightkey (talk) 17:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
102,066 votes were cast. But apparently the rule was that you needed >50% to be declared the winner. So you needed at least 51,034 votes to be declared the winner. "Coincidentally", the final official result was that Morton won 51,034. The second-place candidate Everett won 50,725. And the remaining 307 votes went to other candidates. The margin between Morton and Everett was 309 votes or 0.3%, which is too large a margin to be included on this page. However, one can argue that going by the rules of the election, Morton won by 1 vote or 0.001%, in which case we could include this election on this page. See http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=233013 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_gubernatorial_election,_1839 Jimsmith1978 (talk) 05:25, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I have now gone ahead and added this entry (1839 Massachusetts governor). Jimsmith1978 (talk) 23:53, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
While there is some documentation stating that this 1847 house race was settled by 1 vote, there's other reports that it was not. Early reports had Flournoy's votes from Patrick county reduced to zero due to a failure to qualify the commissioners at one precinct, but those votes were later restored. Also note that as reported here, the total votes were not correct, because the source reported the county margins not the total votes. [1]
According to http://www.election.demon.co.uk/marginal.html there have been 135 seats in the UK parliament decided by under 100 votes since 1918; assuming an average turnout of 40,000, there are possibly as many as 50 majorities of under 0.1% in that list. Given that it isn't that rare after all, I'm wondering if the criteria for this article ought to be tightened? Or perhaps it needs to take account of the size of the vote; is a margin of 0.1% in a vote of 10 million people more impressive/unusual than 0.1% in a vote of 10,000? This would also take care of the local elections mentioned above, where the electorate is even smaller. Thoughts? — sjorford++ 17:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
How about the German 2002 elections, with the Social Democrats edging out the Conservatives by 8,864 votes with ~ 48 million cast? 150.127.225.246 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC).
That's stupid, at first, the federal election is about the members of the Bundestag, not about forming a government. Officially, that is another election for the government, one voted by the Bundestag members. Also, parties in Germany have never built formal electoral alliances (only exception being the Union sister parties), so looking at the "red-green result" does not make sense, as SPD and Greens are different parties with different lists.
SPD became the strongest party with 38.5%, while the Union (consisting of two sister parties CDU and CSU) was in second place, also with 38.5%. That's what this list is about, not about parliamentary alliances, which might or might not support the parliamental election of a government and can completely change depending on the result. (Oh and btw, the election was actually so close that reporters at first predicted a black-yellow majority and (as we nowadays know) behind the scenes of the first result debate Schröder already said to Stoiber that he could now show what he would be able to do. In Munich, Stoiber even celebrated "We have won the elections", while at the time it began to come clear that he had lost.) --SamWinchester000 (talk) 01:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
At the moment this list is a bit of a grab-bag and demonstrates a fair degree of geographic bias. I'd like to put some work into improving it, in particular to expanding the results for some other countries such as Australia. Before I do, however, I wonder whether we might be better off splitting the list out into countries/regions. I can see the list getting unwieldy fairly quickly, if indeed it isn't already. I also note the IP's comment 1 August 2006 and agree that close elections are significantly more common at the local level. Consequently I propose to limit the list to national and state/province elections only, which would exclude such items as ABC Unified School District. Debate 木 20:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I've been making a lot of updates to this. In addition to suggesting we limit the scope (larger, closer elections, ignoring local elections - see above), I've made a changes to the table itself. I've replaced the column for total votes cast with one for votes for the winner. The reason is that some votes involve multiple candidates, sometimes running for multiple offices. There are also blank ballots or write-ins etc... But what matters is how many votes were decisive, so I think that means votes cast for the two candidates who tied or who were close. In addition I've defined the margin % as the margin divided by the votes cast for the two close candidates (meaning that votes for 3rd candidates or blank ballets won't be counted). A 3 way race that is 1001-1000-800 is not closer than one then a two-way one is 1001-1000. Anyway, let me know if there is any opposition to this. Volcycle (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Currently some elections where the two were exactly equal are listed as 1 vote majorities on the basis of however the tie was broken. I think it would be better to list these as 0 vote exact results, as the tie breaking vote is separate from the normal ballot - winning an election by having one more person supporting you is different from winning on a coin toss. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Need to find good references for the following:
Federal elections
State elections (very incomplete)
Debate 木 11:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I concede that this might not be the best place to discuss this, but since I did not see one that already existed, I figured I would see if there was any interest in making such a list. My (current) concept of such a list would ignore Saddam Hussein/Kim Jong Il 100% turnout/100% of the votes received "elections" in favor of those that were at least nominally-contested in a democratic setting.
I welcome your thoughts. 24.149.110.44 (talk) 15:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
The elections were not narrow. The margins of victory may have been. There has to be a better title. The best I can come up with is "List of elections decided by narrow margins". Any other ideas? -- 202.142.129.66 (talk) 04:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
"List of narrow (or close) election results". Sussexonian (talk) 20:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The current introduction claims that the close Canadian results are due to boundaries being set by an independent commission without party interference - but so are the boundaries in many other countries. And there's no source given for it. Could it be that the high number of Canadian entries is actually down to one of the following:
Timrollpickering (talk) 11:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Count and preference distribution has just finished in the House of Representatives seat of Fairfax, in the Australian Federal Election, 2013. Margin is 7 votes, out of a total of 84,667 formal votes (or 89,173 including informal votes), which is 0.00827% (or 0.00785% including informal votes). Because of the narrow margin an automatic recount is under way.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-160.htm http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-01/electoral-commission-orders-recount-for-seat-of-fairfax/4992130
Not sure if this article wants the total of formal votes, or the absolute total that includes informal votes. For clarification, formal votes are valid votes that were cast, informal votes are votes that were cast but can't be counted for a variety of reasons, such as them being illegible, blank, incorrectly filled out, etc.
14.2.28.244 (talk) 12:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Another tie: Mississippi legislative district 79 -- total of 9178 votes.
Dtilque (talk) 07:59, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
References
I would add the Austrian legislative election, 1999 where the difference between FPÖ and ÖVP was only 415 votes (total of 4,695,225 votes = 1:11,313 or 0.0088%). They were the 2nd and 3rd placed parties, but their rank order was highly relevant as the following cabinet coalition consisted of those two parties.----Bancki (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
While the results are not yet finalized (we have yet to count absentee votes), BC has one riding with the BCNDP declared victorious with a 9 vote margin over the BC Liberals. There are 87 ridings in total, and the current count is 43 BC Liberals, 41 BCNDP and 3 BC Greens. If that 9 vote margin riding flips, it hands the BC Liberals a majority government with 44 seats. At present, with 43, they will have to form a minority government.
While a 9 vote gap is not particularly special in Canadian politics (apparently), the fact that this change could actually spell the difference between how the province is governed, rather than just more or less one MLA for a given party suggests that this is one of the closest elections in history (assuming the absentee vote doesn't significantly disturb the balance).
Does anyone else know if any of the other entries on this list were actually deciding factors in the overall election results? 24.69.201.248 (talk) 23:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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The British Columbia general election, 2017 has a mere 1,566 votes/0.8% separating the Liberals from the NDP, and has been refered to as the closest election in BC history.. On the other hand, there were more than two parties running, and the popular vote doesn't determine seats in BC. What does everyone think? Kawnhr (talk) 15:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
0.8% wouldn't meet the "1 in 1000" criterion anyway. Jimsmith1978 (talk) 07:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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Does this election (Pennsylvania's 18th congressional district special election, 2018) merit inclusion in the article? Thanks. 32.209.55.38 (talk) 04:46, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Does this election merit inclusion in the article? The first vote had no candidate gettin a majority, so a run-off was held in which both candidates got exactly 721 votes. A third vote was held in which one candidate won by 1%.
Source: https://www.izbori.hr/arhiva-izbora/data/lokalni/2017/izabrani/i_06_17_0000.pdf (pages 42-44)
The election is also mention in the Cities table of this article
--95.168.124.179 (talk) 22:29, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
The term currently redirects here, but it may be notable on its own. There are plenty of mentions in passing of the term, but I am struggling to find any in-depth discussion and analysis. Some sources: Unpublished manuscript from 2011, the term used in a title of an academic paper from 1971; another paper from 1960, here is something from 2017 on [2]. Overall, I think the lead of this list should be split into a proper article. Thoughts? Ping User:Volcycle (on a side note, recent Polish presidential elections should be added here: [3], and most people considered 48.5/51.5 from last one close too 2015 Polish presidential election, so was 1995 Polish presidential election, others had at least 2-3% difference, some much more). PS. Anyway, digging into the scholarly works a bit more, the more common term I get more hits for is election closeness: [4] --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Isn't the current definition ("a margin of victory of less than 0.1%") of close WP:OR? Many other elections with a bit wider margins were often called close. Of course, increasing the margin makes the list bigger and bigger, but I think it should be considered for at least 1% if not 2% of a difference. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:05, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Volcycle:, I wonder why you removed multiple Ukrainian close elections I have added. Ukrainian elections are almost never between two but always between multiple candidates, so margins are calculated compared to all participants and not just the first two. For instance, in 79th constituency (Vasylivka) in 2014 there were 78,839 voters, out of whom 17,197 (or 21.8128%) voted for Bandurov and 17,180 (or 21.7912%) voted for Hryhorchuk. I thus get a margin of 0.0216% which was reflected in the article. You replaced it with a margin of 0.0495%, what does it correspond to? Thanks — NickK (talk) 10:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi @NickK:. The reason that I remove some of the elections you added is that they were not close enough. When using an election with multiple candidates we only consider the closest two. So for an American election, for example, we would only count the winner and first place finisher, we don't add in all the other votes cast. Likewise a race with 8 candidates and 3 winners, we only consider the votes for the 3rd and 4th place finishers. In that case if they have 10000 and 9989 votes each, it's not close enough - even if there are a million other votes cast. It makes logical sense. That race is no closer than a 2 candidate race with the same vote breakdown so it shouldn't be treated differently. To calculated the margin, I use the equation (vote margin/(vote for winner+vote for loser)) so for that race it would be 17/(17197+17180). Hope that helps. Volcycle (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
I think, due to a lot of these elections having recounts, there should be a percentage difference shown between the inital count and the final count
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Nexxl (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
The race for the fourth at-large Boston City Council seat was decided by a single vote in 2019. I'm just not quite sure which category this falls under. -A-M-B-1996- (talk) 17:12, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm not thinking of posting this yet as there is a recount pending, but would 2024 California's 16th congressional district election qualify if the recount came with the same results or sufficiently close result? I ask this because this tie wasn't to determine the winner but which of the next two who would qualify for the next round; should it remain tied, all three would advance to the the general election. In general, would primary or first-round elections and/or elections with a tie lower than first but with a significant effect qualify for this list? T.c.w7468 (talk) 02:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)