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I think it's just been published:

https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us/en/reports-research/global-wealth-report.html Camberstowe (talk) 23:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. Please help out by leaving a link to the exact page with the median wealth by country tables. And please give the name of the section of the PDF or page that contains those country tables.

I may not get around to updating the tables here. But someone else might if they could quickly get to the source tables in some of those massive PDFs and long pages. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:30, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.credit-suisse.com/media/assets/corporate/docs/about-us/research/publications/global-wealth-databook-2022.pdf

Table 3-1: Wealth pattern within countries, 2021 starts on page 119 of the Global Wealth Databook 2022. Has the number of "Adults" "Mean wealth per adult) and "Median wealth per adult", as well as the Gini score and the distribution of adults by wealth range. Bottom of the table on page 122 has the data for whole regions (Africa, Asia-Pacific etc.).

There's also Table 2-2: Wealth estimates by country (end 2021) starts on page 109 of the Global Wealth Databook 2022, which is similar but doesn't have the Gini score and the distribution of adults by wealth range.Camberstowe (talk) 16:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. Thanks! I suggest using Table 3-1 since it has the Gini column. Please see what you can do in a user sandbox. See: #Main country table redone from source higher up.

Others will finish what you can't figure out at first. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timeshifter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Camberstowe/sandbox I've put the data into a table on my sandbox page as you suggested. It still needs 1) the links for national economy pages, 2) a top header for the wealth distribution columns if we're going to have that.Camberstowe (talk) 23:39, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. Great! I suggest deleting the distribution columns. Makes article too wide. And people can always go to the source for far more detail. See Help:Table#Adding links to specialized country, state, or territory articles for how to add the flags and specialized links fast. That template also left aligns the country column. So you will have to remove the CSS for left alignment first. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timeshifter Thanks for guiding me through the process - my current attempt is here, I think it's OK, only it doesn't have a numbers column for ordering the countries from 1 to 171: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Camberstowe/sandbox

OK, I've added two tables for the article - a table of 171 countries with median and mean wealth, and a table of a further 46 countries/territories which has only mean wealth data, which is based on patchier data. Things that need to be done: 1) the world maps for mean and median income can be updated to 2022 2) the region table at the top of the article needs to be updated for the 2022 values (I don't know how to make a table where some of the rows are numbered, but the "World" row isn't). Note: The "total wealth, billion USD" column data is in Table 4-1 on page 134 of the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook 2022 (i.e. data from two tables needs to be merged together for that) 3) the Region column for the table with 46 territories previously gave a hypertext to the relevant UN subregion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme) - I didn't know how to easily put that together.Camberstowe (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. Thanks again! I suggest copying the underlying format of the region table at the top in order to update it to 2022. That is how I hack stuff to figure it out. :)

The references then need to be updated to only the 2022 references with updated page numbers, etc.. The 2021 references can be deleted. --Timeshifter (talk) 08:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timeshifter Still seems too complicated for me - I can't work out how to have every region numbered except "World". The data's in my sandbox, only AU should be "Africa", and Africa and Europe shouldn't have (those) flags.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Camberstowe/sandbox Camberstowe (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

. Camberstowe. Here is the relevant wikitext in the 2021 region table concerning the "world" row:

|- class=static-row-header style=font-weight:bold
| style=text-align:left | ((noflag|[[Economy of the world|World]])) *

Northern America and North America are not the same. I updated the "Economy of" links in the 2021 regions table. See the wikitext. --Timeshifter (talk) 02:35, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think I've updated it correctly.Camberstowe (talk) 17:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. Looks great! I suggest putting the median wealth column first. It is very easy in the Visual Editor. See: Help:Table#Move or delete columns and rows.

There are a lot of double, triple spaces in the wikitext. That is easy to fix with mass find and replace. Replace double spaces with single space. Multiple times until no more are possible.

All the 2021 references in the article can be changed to the 2022 reference. That will delete the 2021 reference.

Thanks for doing all the this. I am having a few problems in real life, and subsequently have much less free time.

So it is nice to have another proficient table editor.

By the way, I just updated Help:Table#Move or delete columns and rows to account for tables with ((static row numbers)). --Timeshifter (talk) 08:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Camberstowe. 2021 references have been eliminated. 2022 references were changed to muliple use format:

<ref name=CS2022-1/>

Per Pyruvate (see diff) the section "More countries. Rough estimates" was relabeled to "GDP per adult" in the table and the reference. --Timeshifter (talk) 12:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've switched the median and mean columns for the "by region" and "by country" tables, but I may have overlooked retaining some of the formatting you added (needs checking!). Camberstowe (talk) 23:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The data for the "by region" table is in alphabetical order in the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook (Africa...Asia-Pacific...China, with World at the bottom): on the wiki, I sorted the table by median wealth because that was how the data for 2021 was shown: I could change it to alphabetical order again if you like. Camberstowe (talk) 00:04, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! --Timeshifter (talk) 02:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some people like alphabetical order as the initial order. Some like descending order of the median wealth column as the initial order.

The 2021 charts had descending order of the median wealth column as the initial order. And that column was the first column after the location column. See 2021 version:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult&oldid=1111322336#By_country

What do people think? I like descending order for tables made from sources that do not change more than once a year. --Timeshifter (talk) 11:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 2022 report is out. The maps need to be updated. Greysholic (talk) 17:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding "Wealth in" links to the tables adds confusion for someone interested in reading through country wiki pages for economic comparisons - especially given that most links are "Economy In" links. I recommend linking to "Economy In" links, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States - instead of "Wealth in" links unless an Economy page is unavailable so it's an apples-to-apples comparison of information. Peckikipedia (talk) 22:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peckikipedia. Since this is a list about wealth, then the first choice should be wealth by country. But so people have a choice I added this just above the main table:

"See categories: Wealth by country. And: Economies by country."

--Timeshifter (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The main element affecting the level of wealth are the interest rates of central banks. At 0%, a secure annuity of $1 has a non-computable value (div//0) Rising interest rates destroy wealth for example the value of the real estate decreases when the rates go up. D.Forgeat (talk) 06:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be out now (different website to earlier years, because UBS tookover Credit Suisse):

https://www.ubs.com/global/en/family-office-uhnw/reports/global-wealth-report-2023.html Quentin Johnson (talk) 06:45, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The median and mean wealth tables are on pages 123-126 here:

Global Wealth Databook 2023.

It is a very long URL which can't be shortened as far as I can tell. --Timeshifter (talk) 08:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Greysholic and Radom1967 updated 3 of the 4 tables. Thanks! I updated the 2023 UBS reference. 2023 is the publication year. The "More countries (rough estimates)" table has not been updated since the 2022 publication. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is going on with the reported median wealth of 90k in Qatar? The mean wealth of 164k is only 83% higher than the median wealth which is unheard of in the gulf states. Mean wealth is 506% higher than median wealth in Bahrain, 380% in the UAE, 339% in Saudi Arabia, 330% in Oman and 321% in Kuwait. Qatar's figure puts it at the 7th-lowest relative increase between median and mean wealth globally, only outmatched by Malta, Luxembourg, Slovakia, Slovenia, Belgium and Iceland. 2A02:810B:F3F:FC7C:8400:434A:FBB5:C187 (talk) 20:07, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Timeshifter, you reverted my edit for a reason I do not understand. Per WP:CLICKHERE, we should not instruct the reader on how to use a given source. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:CLICKHERE: Click here to see more (think about print).

Although Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, articles should be written in a manner that facilitates transmission in other forms such as print, spoken word, and via a screen reader. So terms such as "this article" are preferable to "this webpage", and phrases like "click here" should be avoided. In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia.

References are about links. Sortable table headers are about clicking. You don't delete detail from references. If you see the word "click here" or similar, then change it to "go to this article", or something. Rewrite. Don't delete. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no rule that says we shouldn't delete information from references. I am not sure how to rephrase something like Click info icon on "Household net wealth" column header to get years to avoid saying "click here". Likewise, how would you change To see this, click on the header of the median wealth column and put it in descending order to be compliant with WP:CLICKHERE?

Separately, did you intend to revert when I moved the links to Category:Wealth by country and Category:Economies by country to the see also section? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reference material is very important info. People want easy paths to the reference info, and related info. They don't want to have to wade through long documents when we can take them directly to the correct page number, etc..

You could say "To see this, sort the median wealth column and put it in descending order." But most people don't bother. Rules don't slavishly have to be obeyed. There are obvious exceptions such as tables. "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply."

"See categories: Wealth by country. And: Economies by country." That sentence does not have "click here" in it. So no guideline violation. And some countries aren't listed in the table, but are listed in the categories. And the country links only have one of the above links. So someone interested in the economy page will need to go to the category if the wealth page is the link. This info is much more useful here than at the bottom of the page. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to including page numbers for sources. "Income in Detail by Country" entries include estimates of mean household net wealth. Entries link to BLI database. Click info icon on "Household net wealth" column header to get years. is not listing page numbers: it is telling people how to use a source. WP:NOTHOWTO applies. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTHOWTO has nothing to do with references. Table references by their nature are often complicated, and require following a very specific path to get to that info. This better fulfills WP:V. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:13, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where in NOTHOWTO does it say this does not apply to references? Policies apply everywhere in mainspace unless it says otherwise.

What textual information is it verifying? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 18:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you not read? WP:NOTHOWTO says: "Wikipedia is an encyclopedic reference, not an instruction manual, guidebook, or textbook." A reference is none of those. The references are verifying the data in the tables, and related info that people are interested in. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]