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I have never heard of him (which doesn't mean much), and I can't find anything on the web.
Why is Christopher Wren on this list? He is a famous architect, but -- as far as I know -- not a mathematician. Also, his page does not mention the word "math" at all. Aleph4 20:12, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Isn't it a bad general idea to make listing here a 'recognition' matter?
Charles Matthews 09:30, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
What is the rule for country attribution? I changed the country for Janos and Farkas Bolyai - two Hungarian mathematicians, whose city of birth now lies in Romania - to Hungary. I think this priciple is better, as all the ancient Greek/Persian/Arab mathematicians are also listed by historic countries.
I'm not sure why Asger Aaboe is on this list, but since he was there, I filled in his full name. -- Dominus 14:27, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I added A. K. Dewdney and touched up his article a bit also. But 1) I'm unable to find more bio on him (such as birthdate), & 2) I'm mildly surprised that the famous Mathematical Recreations column in Scientific American (which was Dewdney's for a while) has no entry yet. -- Ds13 06:29, 2004 Apr 15 (UTC)
Would it be interesting to have a separate list of people who received academic training in mathematics but became famous for something other than math or science (might help dispell stereotypes about mathematicians) ? The list would include Tom Lehrer, Ahmed Chalabi, J. P. Morgan, the Unabomber, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Harry Blackmun, David Dinkins, Bram Stoker, Art Garfunkel, Robert A. Heinlein, and Larry Ellison. Maybe Christopher Wren and Lewis Carroll. Loren Rosen 06:54, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
The article was subject to an editthat is described in the history by
That edit added the following Wiki-markup, including a complete entry:
(The edit also added dates for Pavel Sergeevich Alexandrov.) As can be seen by editing this section, that markup includes a note left inside a comment:
This is potentially cryptic, especially since "P.S." is a relevant standard English abbreviation (and A.D. one at least associated with dates). One might infer the following confusing meaning:
But that would be mistaken:
The editor implies fairly clearly that they ignored the fact that Aleksandr Danilovich Aleksandrov was a Soviet citizen for roughly ages 6 thru 78, seeing the birth and death status as reason to label him with "Russia". IMO the correct construction of the part starting with "P.S." is:
--Jerzy(t) 16:20, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)
I am in process of putting here the mathematicins from the list of mathematical topics. The question is, should I also list the cryptographers from there? I couple I saw are Étienne Bazeries and Whitfield Diffie. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 03:10, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I replaced links of the form
with
Ideally, this link should be of the form
however, I have no idea if this split in first name/last name format is gramatically correct.
Now, you may ask why I need to bother creating links of the form [[XXX|YYY]] instead of simply [[XXX]]. The reason is that I plan to sort and update this list automatically. And sorting proper names is a nightmare; no program can reliably figure out given a name which is first name and which is last name, and whether this split makes sense in a given setting.
So, I went through the existing links, and wherever I could I replaced links of the form
by
In places where I could not figure out the first and the last names, I just replaced
with
Any help in figuring out the first names and last names (and if this at all makes sence) for Arabic and Chinese names is very welcome. Oleg Alexandrov 20:19, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I sorted the mathematicians in this list. The sorting algorithm is as follows:
As it can be seen, sorting people by last name is a mess. Any suggestions for improving the sorting algorithm are welcome. Oleg Alexandrov 21:08, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Recently my bot updates this list in fully automatic mode, after being under close monitoring for a while. Sorry for the silly edit summary though, I forgot to change it to something more meaningful, and then I was busy with other things these days and forgot to check. Fixed now. Oleg Alexandrov 04:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I think that Willard Van Orman Quine must be sort in Q; Abul-Wafa Al-buzjani in B; Johann P.G. Lejeune Dirichket in L.; van Waveren Hudde in H.--Honcharov A.V. 13:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Articles de, della, du, ibn, van, von are ignored by sorting. Why does article Al not ignore?--Ahonc 07:46, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Why Marquis de Condorcet sorted on Ma, but not on Ca or Co?--Ahonc 10:51, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I find some differencies in year in others Wikipedias (German, French). Fior example, see Apianus in German and French Wikipedia.
di Giorghi - wrong years
(unsigned post by Honcharov A.V.)
But in Deutsch Wikipedia and in MacTutor wrote that Apianus died in 1552.
di Giorghi cannot bore after his death!!! Honcharov A.V. 08:03, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Mr. Honcharov has been adding country information to various mathematicians. That is great, with one big problem. Next time my bot updates this list, it will overwrite the country info with whatever information is available in the mathematician article. For example, Carl Friedrich Gauss will go from being a Holy Roman Empire mathematician back to being merely German mathematician, because at the bottom of the Carl Friedrich Gauss article it is listed in Category:German mathematicians.
I can easily modify my bot so that it does not mess up with existing country information. The big problem is that most of the time it is actually conventient to get country information from categories and overwriting this list. What to do? Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 09:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
--Ahonc 10:24, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Are Persia in Arabia same countries is this list? Ahonc 08:27, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
And why did your bot change country information about Gauss?!! I change it again.--Ahonc 09:30, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
What's the point of the list of amateur mathematicians ?!? I could add myself to the list,how about that ? Stefan Udrea 22:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
This is a message primarily for Honcharov A.V., but also for everybody who attempts to update this list.
The way my bot works, it goes through the mathematician categories at list of mathematics categories and searches for mathematicians, whom it puts in this list. The bot also downloads actual articles, and gets from there birth/death/country information (from the categories at the bottom of articles).
The bot gives more priority to what is in those article pages than to what is in this list, so stuff in this list may be overwritten. This is by design. I assume that more accurate information can be found in the article than here. That is, if you want to change a mathematicians's name, or country, or dates of birth/death, you must change in the mathematician's article, and the change will propagate here. If you change here but not there, your changes will be overwritten.
For example, we have a duplicate now for Fourier, there is both
and
There is no point in removing the first entry from this list, my bot will add it back. This because the article about Fourier is called Joseph Fourier and the other one, Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier is just a redirect to it. You either remove the second entry, and the bot will not put it back, or move the article Joseph Fourier to Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier, then the first will become a redirect, and my bot will not add it.
In the same way, don't attempt to change here the entry for Gauss from
to
In the Carl Friedrich Gauss article, he is listed in the German mathematicians category, so my bot will rename the more historically accurate Holy Roman Empire/Kingdom of Hanover back to Germany. If you want Gauss to be indeed in the Holy Roman Empire/Kingdom of Hanover, you need to change that information in the article about Gauss (there might need to be some discussion about it, as it would be a big change).
I stated all this before, but I would like to write here clearly again, to make sure people do not spend their time changing things which my bot will overwrite.
By the way, my bot does not detect when an article gets moved. That's why sometimes new duplicates show up. I have a code to detect that, but I run it seldom, say once in a month or two. So help with removing duplicates is appreciated, as long as you remove the redirect and not the actual article (which my bot will put back). Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:39, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Ahonc suggested on my talk page (in Russian) that the bot should not modify the country for the mathematicians in this list. I would not agree with that. I would think it is good to keep synchronized with the information in the mathematician article. If the country changes there, I think it is good for it to change here. I wonder what other people think. If there are more opinions favoring that, I will do it. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
How can you change it? I think. That it doesn't need change. It is full entry.--Ahonc 11:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
The following recently-added figures, according to their bios, were/are not actually mathematicians. I'm removing them. They could be re-added if justification/references are provided. (Note that physicists should not be on this list unless they're also mathematicians; just being physicists who use mathematics doesn't count.)
Several others in the same group seem to be at least arguably OK. I left Yajnavalkya even though today he'd be an astronomer, not a mathematician; back then there probably wasn't a clear distinction. Still, either he ought to be added to some subcat of Category:Mathematicians or else removed from this list. There were a lot of redlinks added at the same time: D.K. Ray-Chaudhuri, Gadadhara Bhattacharya, Jagadisha Tarkalankara, M.V. Subbarao, Mathuranatha Tarkavagisha, Pakshadhara, Raghunatha Shiromani, Sankara Narayana, Shankara Mishra, Vasudeva Sarvabhauma, Vijayanandi, Yativrsabha, and Yavanesvara. Since these people don't have WP articles, it's harder for me to check whether they belong or not, but the circumstances of their addition to the list are not encouraging; maybe someone should check. --Trovatore 06:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Mathbot, which updates this list of mathematicians, gets the dates of birth and country from categories (for example, at Archimedes, the country is Ancient Greece, and the birth year is 287. Any modifications to dates and countries, like these, will unfortunately be overwritten with information from the categories in the Archimedes articles and the others.
This is by design, seems that keeping the mathematicians articles with their entries in this list is the better thing to do. But then, if you want to change something about dates or country, you should not do it here, where information will be overwritten, but in the articles themselves. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
And, is addition in Births / Deaths sections of the respective years (and days) also somehow automatized ?— MFH:Talk
What did Krafft do to get on this list? I think he is an astrologer, not even an astronomer. Giftlite 03:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
This list and most other lists of mathematicians will be deleted under this proposal: User:Sidatio/Proto WP:LIST, specifically the part which says "there should be at least three criteria for inclusion on a stand-alone list of people". Kappa 05:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
This list would stand a chance for deletion as it has little but dates to add to the category mathematicians (don't worry, I won't propose deletion; there's much too much work here and I've been on the receiving end of deleted lists myself). However, most other lists of scientist are restricted to at most a few hundred famous representatives, preferably with their specializations and/or most notable achievement, while this list seems to add all people with a mathematician category and a wikipedia entry (in effect duplicating the category's job). A list of famous individuals is subjective and needs policing, but it is also useful (e.g. to get an overview of the major achievements in math). Afasmit 06:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
It seems to be widely accepted that any one of the following three criteria is sufficient for being called a "mathematician": (1) having a doctorate in math, (2) teaching math at a tertiary institution, (3) conducting original math research. Should other criteria also be used? If so, which of the following groups of people should be called "mathematicians" even if they do not meet any of the preceding criteria?
--Sammy1339 (talk) 22:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
I agree with David that this is an unnecessary duplication of the discussion already happening at Talk:List of female mathematicians, so people should comment there, instead of here. Mark MacD (talk) 09:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Where is Galois?and if 'having a doctorate in math' is sufficient criteria then there are thousands of people should be listed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.27.8.45 (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)