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In some of the early issues of the Fantastic Four, Reed Richards and Nick Fury talked about fighting together in WWII. Was Reed a Marvel character prior to his first appearance in FF #1? Kyle UNC Law 15:26, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Assigning ages to various points in the character's history is problematic; lacks sufficient citation and smacks of original research. Recommend removal. Gbsrd (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
CovenantD, even though I know this isn't going anywhere, this one is for you. Snippet from Reed's Wiki entry, which is supported by the comics.
"Not only has Reed proven himself to be a genius in virtually every science native to Earth, he has shown himself to be more knowledgable than even some of the most highly advanced alien civilizations in the known universe as well. He has been known to turn scraps of machinery into deadly weaponry within seconds. Reed also appears to have a degree of immunity to psychic attacks; his mind is as pliable and resilient as his body. (Some comic writers have shown that Reed's intelligence was increased by the Cosmic Rays that gave him his elastic powers, and that, when his powers are nullified, he is not as hyper-intellgent - though still a genius by most standards.) Mind control is rarely effective on him; when it does work, it wears off sooner than it would a normal person." MrBigB 18:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
This was obviously prior to Reed's Sue's, Ben's and Johnny's space adventure. Also note that when Victor Von Doom conducted an unstable expermiment to breach the dimensions, it was Reed who warned about the consequenes of what he was doing, which ultimately scarred Victor's face permanently. If Dr. Doom is to be considered one of the greatest scientific minds on Earth, then surely if Reed wasn't as intelligent as he is with his powers then surely, he wouldn't be able to understand exactly what Victor was doing, let alone warn him about its possible result. Another example is the fact that Reed Richards inherited his intellect from Nathaniel Richards and even exceeded his, and as I recall, Nathaniel is a super-genius as well, even able to best Reed at times with his mind alone.
May I also point when Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were working on the Fantastic Four, The result of the cosmic radiation bombardments to Reed Richards, was simply to give him the power of elasticity, no other additional powers were given (or at least not that I know of). The fact that some writers depict Reed Richards' super-genius as result of cosmic radiation, just shows that the Fantastic Four has changed over time, sort of like the level of Superman's powers and how they work. In my view, although it would probably make sense to me Reed is as smart as he is because of his powers, depicting him without his powers barely able to keep up with Doctor Doom is a bit of a goof, escpecially considering that Doom started his vendetta to prove he is brighter than Richards simply because of his experiences in ESU. And speaking of schooling, Reed applied for several universities at age of 14. And the fact that his starship travel was funded by the U.S. Government, when he was just 22. The writers probly attempted to explore the incredible genius Reed Richards has, seen that his intelligence far exceeds that of many members of the human race, the best way to explain it is that it is because of the cosmic radiation, rather than his own innate ability, but I doubt that Reed's intellect is a result of the cosmic radiation, even if it is a good explanation. Ater all, it's probably not what Stan Lee originally intended, even if he doesn't has a problem with it. Uglyguy2006
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Two words--Plastic Man. He should be metioned somewhere in the article.204.80.61.110 16:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Bennett Turk
The official Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer webpage states that he is a brilliant physicist and mathematician, humble genius, and gifted idealist. He claims to be one of the greatest minds of the 21st century in that movie. He was educated at MIT like Victor von Doom and geneticist Susan Storm, and won a top science prize as a child and an international prize as an adolescent. In the first movie, Dr. Richards reveals that cosmic clouds passing near earth can cause evolutionary changes and perhaps aid humanity. Victor von Doom says Reed is always right. Mr. Fantastic is working on an equation for a suit of unstable molecules, but Dr. Doom invents it before him, with Susan noting that "great minds think alike." He apparently has knowledge of spacecrafts, as indicated in his discussion with Ben Grimm, his talk with NASA, and his work on the shuttle. Reed checks Susan's medical chart, monitoring her health and advising the physician looking after her. Susan states that unless something is stated in terms of quantum physics, he doesn't understand it. His Baxter Building loft-turned laboratory shows several devices he has invented and machines he maintains for his research. When he investigates Thing's fundamentally-altered DNA, he shows an advanced knowledge of genetics. He writes chemical equations on a chalkboard. He designs a device to reverse the Four's mutations. Doom notes Richards and himself are both doctors. In the end of Fantastic Four, he uses his skill in chemistry to stop Doctor Doom, as Doom had done to him. In the second movie, he gives an exposition on the Big Bang, designs a satellite sensor and constructs the rocket-like Fantasticar, which is of his own design. When he initially refuses to build the sensor to detect the Surfer, he refers the military to a colleague, the head of the physics department at Brown University, to serve as a replacement. Mr. Fantastic discovers that the Silver Surfer destroys any world he visits and how to separate him from his board — through the application of a tachyon pulse. When Doom works on the device to control the Silver Surfer's board behind the military's and Four's backs, he tells Richards to keep up with him. Dr. Richards determines that Johnny Storm's molecular structure is unstable after Silver Surfer affects him. --68.224.247.53 22:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I put up the "unverified claims" part because this section needs a lot of references. 130.241.18.31 11:12, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Scans_Daily, Reed's Mom is shown in 'Marvel Knights 4' (whatever that means) as being a big-brain scientist also. Lots42 22:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Any one got any ideas?Phoenix741(Talk Page) 16:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
According to BusinessWeek, Mr. Fantastic is listed as one of the top ten most intelligent fictional characters in American comics. Smartest Superheroes Bookkeeperoftheoccult (talk) 10:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Not in the beginning at any rate. In Fantastic Four Annual #2 (1964) (and, I think, Fantastic Four #11), it says he went to State University, not Empire State. And in Fantastic Four #35 (Feb 1965) Reed actually goes there and the university is obviously not anywhere in the city of New York. In some edition of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, State University is identified as being in "Hegeman, New York." I'm perfectly willing to believe that later writers have identified his alma mater as "Empire State", but I don't know where or when that might have happened; and I think we should go with the original statements in the comics. Ford MF (talk) 05:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Which is it? The article alternates without explanation. It's his name, not an honorific, surely it must be one or the other. If the usage changes in the comics, that needs to be mentioned. Lectio difficilior potior supports Mister. Spicemix (talk) 00:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Looking at Michael Gough in the film Konga which came out before Fantastic Four # 1, I can't help wondering if Reed Richards was based on him? He plays a scientist (evil) and had the grey hair over both ears, as Reed did. The slim figure, hairstyle and face are similar too.(88.22.225.93 (talk) 16:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC))
I would like to request that Reed Richards is added to this category, given that he self diagnosed with autism in "Fantastic Four: Season One". It was also mentioned in "Fantastic Four: 1234". David A (talk) 04:13, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi there. I note that in the Mister Fantastic page it is stated that "When 19-year-old Reed continued his education by attending Columbia University in Manhattan, he rented a room in a boarding house owned by the aunt of a young girl named Susan Storm. To his embarrassment, the girl, who was 13, instantly fell in love with him.". However, this doesn't match up with the information on the Invisible Woman page where it says "While living with her aunt, Susan, at the young age of 17, met her future husband, Reed Richards, a house guest who was attending college.". A quick search up on the Marvel Wikia gives an age of 12 for when Invisible Woman first met Mister Fantastic. Can someone who actually knows about Marvel shed some light on the matter?
(Chilokver (talk) 02:22, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
I added a fact tag for this, I'd like to know when that was introduced into Marvel canon, it isn't clear.
http://www.cbr.com/the-abandoned-an-forsaked-did-mr-fantastic-really-first-meet-the-invisible-woman-when-she-was-twelve/ includes this letter column from Tom Breevort which shows Reed as a "college freshman" being significantly taller than Sue Storm when she was 12 years old.
It doesn't really appear to be accountable by a 2-year age difference, and Breevort refers to Reed as a "college-age man" in it. ScratchMarshall (talk) 20:18, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Fantastic Four #32 states that Franklin Richards's "gambling losses took all his money" -- i.e., he gambled away the family fortune after his wife's tragic death. He accidentally killed a loan shark who was looking to be repaid because he didn't have the money. So he cannot have had any money to leave his children while he was imprisoned. And then the Storms' Aunt Marygay (probably their paternal aunt) ran a boardinghouse and rented out rooms to support herself and Johnny and Sue, which is how they met Reed. And then in Fantastic Four #520, Sue tells Johnny that between working and caring for him, she hardly has time for her schoolwork. If they had a fortune, why not use it to help pay bills? How does Sue have enough money to fund Reed's spaceship but not to pay monthly bills? Why is she working and risking not making it to her graduation if she's rich and doesn't need to? I've seen this mentioned on a few Wikipedia pages, but there is never a source offered, and I have EXTENSIVELY read Fantastic Four comics and never seen any hint that Sue and Johnny were anything other than scrambling to make ends meet before they first met Reed. Basically, source?
The result of the move request was: Moved Mister Fantastic → Reed Richards. There is no consensus to move the other two. I mean, this request has been up for a month and we haven't really advanced, so I'm not sure why relisting would help. (non-admin closure) Red Slash 16:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
– This set of characters is as well known by their "street" names as by their made-up names. In particular, I would contend that even in-universe in the comics, Reed Richards is far more commonly referenced by his "real" name. Frankly, "Sue Storm" and "Johnny Storm" already sound like like "superhero" names. BD2412 T 17:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 15:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
like this one is so bad Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 20:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Reed Richards → Mister Fantastic – "Mister Fantastic" was the original name of the article and where the article was located for about 18 years until the above requested move in 2021 which had minimal participation (2 users supporting, 1 user opposing) and should have been either extended or closed as "no consensus" instead of being closed as "consensus to move".
Having this article at "Reed Richards" is inconsistent:
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics) says to use the common name:
"Mister Fantastic" OR "Mr. Fantastic"
and 2,280,000 hits for "Reed Richards"
(which would also include some hits from real-life people named Reed Richards, not just the comic book character), so Mister Fantastic is the common name.Naming conventions (comics) allows an exception if a character has multiple well-known codenames like Dick Grayson (who has been Robin, Nightwing, and even Batman at different points in his history), but Reed Richards is not known by any other common codename than Mister Fantastic.
In summary, consistency, common name, and Wikipedia naming conventions all support "Mister Fantastic", not "Reed Richards".
—Lowellian (reply) 01:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)