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I have again reverted recent additions to the page because they do not adhere to our WP:NPOV policy. In particular, the large block quote from Caroll's campaign website and the long list of endorsements are campaign-like and encyclopedic. Endorsements typically go on the election page, in this case that would be here: United States House of Representatives elections in Colorado, 2016. Please don't restore these edits without discussing here first and gaining WP:CONSENSUS. In general, with your first edits its best to start out small rather than making too many major edits at once. Champaign Supernova (talk) 20:14, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry! Unintended - I'm new to Wikipedia and just saw your message. Still figuring out the system. As full disclosure, I am an unpaid intern with Morgan and have been tasked with updating the page (note as of 9/6/16 photo was from 2006, did not include her tenure in the Colorado House of Representatives in the infobox, listed her as running for the Democratic nomination, not as the candidate etc). I wish to fully honor Wikipedia's standards, but also fairly quickly develop a page comparable to that of other public figures to include legislation she has sponsored and committees she has served on. All guidance and assistance in accountability welcomed. I can post all intended edits here for external review for neutrality before updating the page if that is amenable to the community, and will remove any campaign sources. Please let me know if at the moment it is okay to restore the updated Infobox to include Colorado House of Representatives tenure, Education and background section, and Personal Life. Slichtin (talk) 21:29, 7 September 2016 (UTC)Slichtin[reply]
Thank you for disclosing your connection to the article's subject. The first step is to acquaint yourself with Wikipedia's WP:COI policy. You should avoid directly editing the article text. Instead, if you have suggested edits, please use Template:Request edit on this talk page. This will summon other editors to this page who can look at your content and add it to the article if it complies with Wikipedia policies. Key policies to keep in mind when suggesting content are WP:PROMOTION, WP:RS, WP:SECONDARY, and WP:NPOV. Champaign Supernova (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed addition to page: Colorado State Legislature section[edit]
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi there, I am an intern with Morgan Carroll and would like to suggest the addition of a section regarding Carroll's electoral, legislative, and committee history in the Colorado State legislature. Given WP:COI, I ask that this be added, or added in an edited form, to the page if it complies with WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV.
This also seems like an important edit; given your sourcing, I have added it to the page. Recommend fleshing out the citations so they are not just URLs! Fbv65edel — t — c // 04:20, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated bare url citations for election results (Colo. Sec. of State) and committee assignments (Colo. General Assembly) to include title, publisher, and access date, but have not removed the maintenance tag given WP:COI. Slichtin (talk) 19:58, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Her first year in office, Morgan Carroll sponsored Senate Bill 05-052, creating the Military Family Relief Fund to provide financial assistance to the families of actively serving Colorado National Guard and Reserve Military members.[5]
In 2006, Morgan Carroll sponsored Colorado House Bill 06-1149 to strengthen the “Colorado Sunshine Act of 1972”, ensuring disclosure of additional information regarding funding for professional lobbyists to the office of the Colorado Secretary of State.[6]
Morgan Carroll sponsored the 2010 Pharmaceutical Transparency Act (SB10-126) which discloses payments from the pharmaceutical industry to health care providers.[7]
Following the 2012 Aurora Shooting, Carroll and fellow Aurora Democrat Rep. Rhonda Fields sponsored Colorado House Bill 1229, passing universal background checks in the state.
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Carroll sponsored the 2013 Colorado State Senate Advancing Students for a Stronger Economy Tomorrow (ASSET) Bill (SB13-033) extending in-state classification for university tuition purposes to all students who complete high school in Colorado, regardless of immigration status.[9].
I have removed most of the "sponsored legislation" from the article because it lacks secondary sourcing. The sourcing is mostly links to the bill itself, or to a legislative tracker, and it does not adequately WP:VERIFY the claims made about the legislation. We need to be very much err on the side of caution here given that these are requests being made by the campaign of someone running for office. Champaign Supernova (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for keeping us up to snuff and honest Champaign Supernova and Fbv65edel. If it is okay for me to edit personally, I will update the citations for the Colorado election statistics and Colorado State Senate committee assignments to include source (e.g. Office of the Colorado Secretary of State, Colorado Legislative Council), title (e.g. “Votes cast at the General Election held November 2, 2004: St. Rep. District 36”, “2010 Senate Judiciary”), and page number where applicable as requested by Fbv65edel.
Regarding Champaign Supernova’s edit at 14:47 on Sept 22, I believe it is appropriate to include in the description of House Bill 1229 that it was drafted/passed in response to the 2012 Aurora Shooting. It is pertinent information that sponsors Carroll and Rhonda Fields were the State Senator and State Rep, respectively, representing the City of Aurora in the Colorado State Legislature at the time of the shooting as this bill has consistently been discussed in relation to and described as a response to the shooting in local,[20] regional,[21] national,[22][23] and international[24] media.
Here are secondary sources discussing the bills I have suggested including. Here is an article from the Colorado Springs Gazette regarding legislation on the Military Family Relief Fund,[25] a Denver Post article regarding the lobbying reform initiative proposed in 2006,[26] a Boulder Daily Camera article which discusses the Pharmaceutical Transparency Act (Senate Bill 2010 - 126),[27] and Aurora Sentinel coverage of the 2013 ASSET Bill.[28]
If these citations sufficiently WP:VERIFY that these pieces of legislation have been sponsored by Morgan Carroll, provide adequate descriptions of the bills in question, and are in line with standards for including pieces of legislation sponsored by publicly elected officials on their Wikipedia pages, I request you reconsider including this information on the page.
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi there, I am an intern with Morgan Carroll and would like to suggest 3 small additions to the opening section of the page (mentioning Carroll's tenure as a state representative, that she stepped down as minority leader to run for US Congress, and her specializations at her law firm). Given WP:COI, I ask that this be added, or added in an edited form, to the page if it complies with WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV.
Potential updated intro section, with changes in bold
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Morgan Lenore Carroll (born November 24, 1971) is an American politician from Colorado. A Democrat, Carroll represented Colorado House District 36 in the city of Aurora from 2004 to 2008, and has represented the state's 29th Senate district since 2009.[29] Carroll served as President of the Colorado State Senate 2013–2014 and as minority leader in 2015.[29] Carroll stepped down as minority leader in July 2015 to run against incumbent Republican Mike Coffman for the U.S. House of Representatives CD-6.[30][31] In addition to her legislative work, Carroll works for the law firm of Bachus & Schanker, specializing in social security disability, workers’ compensation, employment law, personal injury, and family law.[32]
Some Proposed Changes to Education and background section[edit]
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented.
Hi there, I am an intern with Morgan Carroll and would like to suggest changes to the Education and background section, mostly a one sentence description of her mother's career and additional information regarding Carroll's non-legislative work history. Given WP:COI, I ask that this be added, or added in an edited form, to the page if it complies with WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV.
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Morgan Carroll was born November 24, 1971 in Denver, CO to John Carroll and Rebecca Bradley. Her father was a consumer rights advocate who served as a Colorado State Representative for Adams County between 1964 and 1974. [33] Her mother was an attorney and Morgan's partner at the mother/daughter disability and family-law firm Carroll & Bradley in Aurora from 2000 to 2010.[34]
This has issues with sourcing and promotion. For instance, the source for Carroll "working at a gas station, a video store, and as a secretary" is her campaign website. The source for a book she authored is a link to buy it on Amazon.com. We need independent, secondary sources to establish notability. Otherwise it does look like self-promotion. Champaign Supernova (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Again, thank you so much for reviewing. I'm still trying to figure out how to best cite - sorry! - but thank you so much for your time and assistance. In regards to proper sourcing, this 5280 article[37] details Carroll's work at a video store and gas station; Ballotpedia[38] specifically mentions her working as a manager at a Blockbuster, manager of an Amoco, and paralegal. And here is a Westword review for Carroll's book.[39] If these are considered appropriate sources, and not against WP:PROMOTION, I request reconsideration for including information. Slichtin (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was notified about these requested edits via my talk page after I made a recent edit to Carroll's page. That being said, in regards to the suggested addition's references, Ballotpedia is not a reliable source. I was not able to find an RS verifying that she worked at Blockbuster however, I did find this source noting that she worked at an Amoco gas station and a Wendy's at age 16. I would say leave out the information about her job at Blockbuster until we can find a source for support but we can add the rest. Meatsgains (talk) 23:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was also unable to verify the following:
"She studied Psychology"
"and served as her local precinct captain for the Colorado Democratic Party"
Some Proposed Changes to 2016 US Congress Campaign section[edit]
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi there, I am an intern with Morgan Carroll and would like to suggest changes to the 2016 US Congress campaign, updating Carroll's status from running for the nomination to receiving the nomination for CO district 6, and including a few more recent endorsements. Given WP:COI, I ask that this be added, or added in an edited form, to the page if it complies with WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV.
Proposed addition to page: Personal Life section[edit]
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi there, I am an intern with Morgan Carroll and would like to suggest the inclusion of a brief Personal Life section to the page. Given WP:COI, I ask that this be added, or added in an edited form, to the page if it complies with WP:PROMOTION and WP:NPOV.
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Outside of her legislative and legal profession, Morgan Carroll has worked as a teacher and dancer with the Boulder Performing Arts Company, and as a Hebrew Teacher at Har Ha Shem. Her hobbies include horseback riding, home improvement, gardening, swimming, and social justice activism.[32]
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I have removed this edit. We have only one source, Carroll's biography from her law firm's website. This is an WP:SPS source. We need stronger independent sourcing here. And listing "social justice activism" as a hobby does seem like WP:PROMOTION. Champaign Supernova (talk) 14:43, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reviewing suggested edits and helping update the page in line with Wikipedia policy. In regards to WP:SPS, may I then suggest this Denver Post profile[46] citing hobbies "travel, home improvement, writing, horse back riding" (thank you for removing what appears WP:PROMOTION)? Also, the Morgan Carroll profile on votesmart.org[47], under 'Religious, Civic, and Other Memberships', lists her work as Hebrew Teacher at Har Ha Shem. Both the votesmart.org profile under 'Professional Experience', and her ballotpedia page[48] under 'Biography' list her work at Boulder Performing Arts Company. If these are considered appropriate sourcing, I request reconsideration for the information. Slichtin (talk) 18:51, 22 September 2016 (UTC)Slichtin[reply]
Also, frankly, a hobbies section is pretty fluffy. Is it really sufficiently notable that she enjoys horse back riding etc, to the point where it should be included in this entry? Surely, as a state Majority, then Minority, Leader, there are some legislative accomplishments and/or controversies to be mentioned.Frankam12 (talk)
Agreed - her hobbies aren't necessarily significant however, adding accomplishments and controversies during her time in office should be noted. Who wants to take a stab at it? Meatsgains (talk) 04:51, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]