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24.247.255.138 23:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC) They're not ska. Period.
"Franco Un-American" - I think NOFX probably did make the video independently, because the only place you could see it was on the War on Errorism CD. However, Scuzz, the British rock channel managed to get hold of the video and they started playing it. I doubt NOFX would make videos to release to mainstream channels. As far as I know, they've only made videos to Bob, stickin in my eye and franco-unamerican. I only saw the first two on p-rock tv when it was still around.
Gram 16:34, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
7" of the month club --Zegoma beach 13:32, 29 July 2005 (UTC) The 7" of the month club albums sould be added to the albums section. 7" of the month club
"Their version of the name has been attributed to the phrase "No Fucking Straight Edge" but the band insists that there is no actual meaning.
Contents "
This is not NPOV language, makes it out that the band is covering up an actual meaning...Wamatt 11:10, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I saw a video for "Franco Unamerican" from "The War On Errorism"...maybe that was independently made? Or is NOFX making music videos (contrary to the article)?
--cprompt 04:20, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I suppose technically the "Franco Un-American" video (which appears on the enhanced CD The War On Errorism) counts as a NOFX video. It is completely animated and most likely independently produced, but would have been approved by the band. --Brian Rogers 9/18/2004
I made links to "year in music" instead of just linking the year, and then later linking "see year in music". It seems more concise to me, and it makes sense to link to the "in music" article, after all, that's what we're talking about. --cprompt 03:15, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I added "vox" after Eric Melvin's name, too, as he also contributes vocals in many songs (eg. I Gotta Pee, Hardcore 84). --Quirk 22:43, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean was originally to be called White Trash, Two Kikes and a Spic, but Fat Mike's mother disapproved. (i heard it was melvins grandmother)
In 2004 the members of NOFX started giving interviews to express their displeasure with George W. Bush and to urge people not to vote for him. Elaine M. Brady Oct. 21, 2004
Instead of downloading the mp3s and stealing..buy a cd. You'll find out that Franco Unamerican was on their cd as a video they put together.
The introduction doesn't really read properly :
Sure it should say something like:
Do people really need to be told California is in the States? Yes there are other Californias but most are also in the States. Jack 16:40, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
"Their emergence on the political scene has not faded after the election." Should this line be there without any evidence one way or the other?
"Their emergence on the political scene has not faded after the election." This line should be removed as they were always political critics. -slippin
Shouldn't the first line read "NOFX are a Californian punk band"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.38.44 (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a series of message boards. The text
NOFX enjoys causing controversy in order to popularise their band: inspired by the lack of support MTV shows them, they openly criticised the station (screaming "Fuck MTV!") after the 1996 Bizarre Festival in Cologne, Germany.
Umm...how does this still qualify as a stub? It seems to be pretty well filled out to me. Spartacusprime 07:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
read the q&a at nofx.org, if you look at any of their early album covers you will see that they wrote NOFX as No FX or No-FX. this supports the fact they took the name from negative fx. if they HAD intended it to mean 'no fucking sXe' then it would not have been written as it was. in any case, mike has commented on this so it should be a moot point. i'm going to go ahead and change the article to reflect this. please do your homework, and don't change it back.
here's the quote, copied from the link above:
#2 Most asked Question January 5 , 2000 What does NOFX stand for? NOFX doesn't stand for shit. We just kinda ripped off the name from an old Boston band Negative FX. OK. . .Fat Mike.
Someone changed the information about how NOFX got the name, and that it stands for "No Fucking Straight "sXe" Edgers". Which it doesn't. Changing that unless it's proven correct, officially.
ok in response to the music video talk near the top of this discussion, let me say this. nofx has been asked many times by MTV to let them air their videos. fat mike has repeatedly refused. they even went so far as to threaten mike and say "if you don't give us a video, we won't air No Use for a Name anymore." fat mike still refused. (NUFAN are on mike's label)
people from south america have told me that they occasionally see nofx videos on MTV south america, but they don't have NOFX's permission, they just do it anyways.
videos nofx has produced include:
i'm not sure if that list is exhaustive.
i've heard of nofx being played on Much Music as well, though I've never actually seen it myself. (don't watch much music)
Yah, I've seen Stickin' In My Eye and Franco Un-American on The Punk Show. Woooh, there's a lot of capitols in that sentence. So yes, they do play some videos on Much Music, but not on the main shows like Much On Demand (or so I know)
There's also a video for Hobophobic (Scared of Bums) but I'm not sure if it's official or not. It should be pretty easy to find on Limewire, etc.
april 21st 2007
i live in canada and our music station (MuchMusic) has aired NOFX videos. they even made a big deal when they first aired "franco un-american". Fat mike has no beef with muchmusic as he even hosted a 30 minute punk show with eric melvin once. it was sometime last year. they picked 30 minutes of videos and talked about each one. JohnEcakes
The ABC in Australia air NOFX videos on Rage 49.195.96.207 (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
we should use either all of their real names, or all of their common nicknames in the info box for consistency. the average nofx fan won't know that Aaron Abeyta is El Hefe, but the average fan may not even know their names to begin with so I think it shouldn't matter. Right now the article for El Hefe is titled Aaron Abeyta, but the article for Fat Mike is Fat Mike, and not Michael Burkett as it probably should be.
I'd like to propose that we use the following names in the infobox and for the band member's individual pages:
I think we should have redirects from the following names for each band member as well, that point to their respective articles:
one of the reason's I think we should use their real names is because they all have multiple nicknames. thoughts?
--Nofxjunkee 06:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I took The Decline out of the album chronolgy (cos it's not an album), but then found that some EPs are included in the chronology (e.g. Longest Line), and others are not (e.g. Liza & Louise).
The Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums guideline says:
The chronology section should link to the previous album on the left and the next album on the right. (Only studio albums, usually excluding lives, compilations, singles and EPs.)
- For first albums the left box (the "Last album=" field) should be left blank.
- For latest albums, the right box (the "Next album=" field) should be left blank, or with a " . . . ".
- For final albums, the right box (the "Next album=" field) should be left blank.
There are plenty of EP, live album & comp album articles on Wikipedia that don't follow this, so I guess we need a consensus. Do we include EPs in the album chronology, do we give them their own chronology (as I started doing with The Decline) or do we follow the guideline above? If we include them in a single line chronology, they all need to be in there (even those without articles). Gram 17:07, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Whether "...in rock and roll." or "...in punk rock.", this needs a definite source:
mat_x 18:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
As does this, curiously familiar, statement:
mat_x 09:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
"(leaning to the left, like the majority of politically concerned musicians)"
The first part goes without saying, but I think that maybe the second half should be left out? That doesn't really pertain to NOFX, and is kind of hard to back up... Any thoughts?
DumberDrummer 07:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Sounds unnecessary and unverifiable, if probably true. Still, there are plenty of right-wing musicians and no-one's counting them all. I'd say remove it. --Switch 10:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Parts of this article sound a bit sycophantic. A rallying point for liberals? There were numerous movements surrounding the election, album notwithstanding.
CavalierEternal 27 March 2006
While NOFX definitely has supported the Democrats the past couple elections and are clearly left of center sociallya, they (specifically Fat Mike - who writes almost all their lyrics), are overall a fairly libertarian (little "l") group. Many would refer to them as socialist-libertarians (I myself identify with that ideology, and I have NOFX and my parents to thank for it. Having an open mind takes a lot of work. Thanks for the lessons Fatty. :) Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
However, Fat Mike once did an interview for Guitar World in 2003 giving his opinion on the pop punk bands rising at that time I believe that sentence was lifted from [1]. --notyouravgjoe 10:17, 25MAR06 (UTC)
Any reason why the fontsize for this article appears to be much smaller than all the others? Or is that just my computer?
(WP:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English) I don't care about the differences as long as the spelling is consistent throughout. Does this article constitute subject matter specific to the US? I'm not sure. I merely object to changes being made by bigots who believe their way is the right way (and User:70.246.99.170's edit summary certainly suggests bigotry) when an article may not have been wrong to start with. What does anybody else think? If this kind of article is considered region-specific for the intents of spelling, then fair enough, let's use US. mat_x 20:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe this introduction does not do justice with the band. First of all, NOFX has been known to address serious issues, they're definitely not just a "comedic" band. Second of all, it is not consistent with other band articles in Wikipedia. It is my intention to change the introduction as soon as possible. Ido50 17:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Update: I have changed the introduction. I feel it is an appropriate and informative introduction, but will be happy to receive comments about it. Ido50 18:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Update: I see it has been changed back. I don't understand why. I am asking for the editors opinion of the matter. My introduction was as follows:
Sources for this introduction were:
Ido50 00:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Who cares what they play by your definition? The important phrase you're missing is "Utilize elements of" skate punk, etc. Leave It Alone. GeddyIsGodYYZ 13:34, 16 November 2006
It's not skate punk at all, its just punk. END OF.
Terrorized? That would imply that the poster above me threatened to physical harm you, which he did not. No wonder the Wikipedia Jews are losing power, and fast, as no one is taking your fake racism and persecution claims seriously anymore. F.y.i. they're pop punk, but they're harder than most cookie cutter pop "punk" bands that get radio play. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.197.180 (talk) 06:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
First post...hopefully I do this right... I don't agree with this statement: "On March 14, 2006, an EP entitled Never Trust a Hippy was released, including the song "You're Wrong," which in which NOFX announced their suport of terrorism - Jihad, Islam holy war. That song cost NOFX quite a few core fans, due to the fact that there's no joke in the killing of innocent people in the name of religion."
"You're wrong fighting Jihad, your blind faith in God, Your religions are all flawed." - You're Wrong - NOFX
Umm? Is there any confirmation of this, it seems rather sketchy as I dont see any sources regarding this. It also seems quite odd that NOFX would release under "Rectum Records" and not Fat Wreck Chords.
Anyone have any information on this member? Seems quite silly that the link for Dave Allen on the NOFX artical redirects to the NOFX article. I say get rid of the redirect unless someone can write something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Idjit (talk • contribs) 23:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC).
One of the trivia items spends some time discussing the controversy between NOFX & Bikini Kill. It seems a little one-sided, being that later on Kathleen Hanna's next band (Le Tigre) released a song called Deceptacon that is pretty much a reply to NOFX's song ("..Your lyrics are dumb like a linoleum floor.."). Well, at least that's what I've read, unfortunately I don't have links to any sources. Would be a good addition if someone can find a source, at least to fill out that bit of trivia.
PUnkX22 05:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Aren't they Straight Edge?--69.113.131.124 20:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I changed the origin of NoFX's name, being that in any interwiews and on their website, they state that they didn't get their name from the Boston punk band named Negative FX. They said they just made up the name. Alkaline Trio Rocks 20:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I was always told by die-hard noah fecks that the name stood for "NO Fucking Straight-Edgers" and (less believably "NO Fucking Christians" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.54.153 (talk) 05:50, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
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It has already been established that they are sourced to be Skate punk. The question is should this be listed in the intro paragraph. Look at other articles like Ramones, Bad Religion, and The Clash. All of those bands have multiple genres listed in their infobox, but are simply reffered to as the primary genre of punk rock in the intro paragraph.Hoponpop69 22:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
about 1,330,000 for nofx punk rock. about 147,000 for nofx skate punk
It is very clear that the band is known more predominantly as a punk rock band than a skate punk band.
Secondly the source that I keep deleting, which you claim shows a number of california bands on the warped tour were influenced by NOFX, does not mention any of this. If you post the source again I'm willing to check over it for a third time, but so far I don't not see where this information is coming from.68.114.92.198 00:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
This is the stupidist Wikipedia talk page I have ever seen. WHO CARES. BURNyA 17:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
On the contrary, Wikipedia does not play host to a band forum for a genre war. Neither does the talk page. This should have ended long ago. BURNyA 17:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Did NOFX ever cover this song?? If so where can i find it cause someone told me they had but im struggling to find it anywhere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.40.238 (talk) 20:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
i know im only supposed to use this for improvements...but in a way i think it would benifit use if we made a punk wiki,so we could say one thing here and say another there like just call nofx punk rock.....kuz last time i thought of just current punk...i thought of NOFX and last time i thought of pop punk i thought of yellow card _______420 bong hits —Preceding unsigned comment added by 420bonghits (talk • contribs) 12:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 15:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
This definitely seems like vandalism. And not sure how to fix it, so some help/someone just doing that would be ideal. Aodell (talk) 20:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this article does not meet the criteria for a Good Article. Some of the major problems that need to be addressed are:
Those are the biggest things that stand out. (1) More information so that the article doesn't read as a chronological list of albums and (2) references will be the biggest work. I feel that the changes required to get this to GA level are fairly substantial, so I am failing the article. I hope to see it as a GA some day, and I hope this feedback helps. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The article says it's pronounced No-eff-ecks, which I take as meaning the F and X are pronounced separately, as letters. I've almost always heard it pronounced No-uh-fex, with the FX pronounced like the word "effects". Not a big deal, but it seems wrong to me. Anyone have an opinion? Carlsotr (talk) 09:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain most people pronounce it as No-eff-ex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.178.215.191 (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
The wording of the sentence regarding the release of "The Longest Line" and "White Trash, Two Heebs..." gave the impression that WTTHAAB was released before TLL when TLL was released over 5 months before WTTHAAB. I sorta fixed it, but somebody that's more articulate than me could definitely improve the wording more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.74.4 (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2011 (UTC) 71.10.74.4 (talk) 23:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
First, "Conan seemed to find their performance displeasing or unprofessional" is entirely subjective, and is actually the opposite of my own impression. This should either be removed or backed up with a source/evidence.
The following sentence "The band briefly pursued an "anti-Conan" riff...." is extremely unclear and I would delete it if I had a clue what it meant. Please clarify or delete.
Lastly... The verse;
"We all know George Bush is an imbecile; He loves Dick [Cheney] but he hates homosexuals; We're sick and tired of the embarrassment; The whole world wants us to get a better president"
is actually a slightly sanitized version of the usual alteration to the verse (and is only used live as seen on they're most recent live album and reports from fans). Usually the last line would be said;
"...We're sick and tired of the embarrassment; the whole world wants us to kill the ("our?") fucking President." 71.10.74.4 (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Could we get an IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) pronunciation? Because "no-ef-ex" depends on your regional accent. Quark1005 (talk) 12:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm thinking of doing a merge/overhaul of the album chronology in individual album pages. Combining albums chronology with EPs, cover albums and such. Thoughts?Jasper420 18:54, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
In the "Epitaph Years" section, it says:
"The following year, the band released its first live album I Heard They Suck Live!!. In the liner notes the band explicitly rejected the advances of major record labels and radio airplay, stating "We've been doing fine all these years without you so leave us alone!" Punk in Drublic is now considered a classic punk album by fans and critics alike."
This is inaccurate. The liner notes mentioned are instead from the "Heavy Petting Zoo" album (released in 1996), and NOT "I heard they suck live!". Plus the part that says that "Punk in drublic is now considered a classic punk album..." should be on the preceding paragraph (the one that actually mentions the album). It's confusing the way it is right now.
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I think it should be added that they have been banned from playing in the US .Getmotionlessscaredinwhite (talk) 17:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)getmotionlessscaredinwhite
Any way we could change the profile picture? It's been here for over a decade and I feel like it does not represent NOFX. They look like a ska band in that picture. Fat Mike looks completely different now. The picture is 13 years old, I think it's time for a current one. --2A02:908:1DA:F60:E1CA:2158:B563:BB97 (talk) 14:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC) (too lazy to log in)
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Crass' 20-minute song which is the second longest punk song is called "Taking Sides", not "Yes Sir, I Will". Latter is the title of the record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Sir,_I_Will 94.21.200.16 (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)