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I don't see that it's necessary to note he was "was the first person in the United States to be executed for killing an abortion provider." The man was a murderer, and like all murderers felt justified in what he'd done. Assigning the label "first", regardless of the veracity, seems to be giving a murderer special status. 63.166.226.83 (talk) 19:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
"part of a wave of anti-abortion violence in the United States in the 1990s" There was no "wave" of violence, there were very few incidents which were greatly blown out of proportion.
Photo is Paul Hill in prison clothes, possible conflict with NPOV. His official website features "regular" photos.
I fixed the "according to Time magazine" but the photo really does need to be replaced due to conflict with NPOV.
Also, "part of a wave of anti-abortion violence in the United States in the 1990s which was disowned by mainstream anti-abortion activists" is conflict of NPOV in my opinion, it should say pro-life, just like a pro-choice article shouldn't say "anti-life" or something similar, so I went ahead and fixed it as well. This article has greatly improved since I first worked on it months ago, and I think we're at the point where we should consider expanding it, especially considering current Supreme Court nominee issues and the rising public interest in abortion issues.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.40.205.168 (talk • contribs) 10 September 2005
This article alleges that his victim, James Barret was armed. We need a cite on that or I will remove it as POV. Nothing I have read inidctaed that Barret was carrying a weapon.Lisapollison 12:56, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
WashingtonPost article on Abortion Violence —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lisapollison (talk • contribs) 17:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
wouldn't it be appropriate to label him as a terrorist? -- Cannibalicious!
There are way too many external links. They should be trimmed, and perhaps some of them should be made references. See WP:EL. --Flex (talk/contribs) 17:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
"A police search of Hill found a bag of marijuana on his person, and his Father turned eleven more bags of the drug over to the police."
This is a DISGUISTING distortion of the truth!! Paul Hill had nothing even close to resembling drugs on him when he convicted these murders. You are confused with his drug encounter when he was 16. But more than likely, you did not get it confused, and you intentionally distorted the truth, because you think Paul is a lunatic, and you hate his cause, so therefore you think you are justified in your misguiding those who read this. This is not your right. Stop trying to change history and make the facts correct. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.56.67.83 (talk) 22:43, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/hill873.htm
A reference of Paul Hill's religion is listed on this page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Warlord2080 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I think outright saying he murdered those two people violates the NPOV policy. He was convicted of murder. He performed homicide against those two people. There is no doubt about that. But because one of the key motivating factors behind the actions of Paul Jennings Hill was that his homicide was justified, that it was not murder, because it constituted defense of the innocent, to say that his actions are murder is to take a normative stance on what does and doesn't constitute murder. Wikipedia is only supposed to assert positive statements. It may assert positive statements about normative statements, but it may not actually take normative stances itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howard Galt (talk • contribs) 16:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Paul Jennings Hill/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
== DRUGS?! ==
"A police search of Hill found a bag of marijuana on his person, and his Father turned eleven more bags of the drug over to the police." This is a DISGUISTING distortion of the truth!! Paul Hill had nothing even close to resembling drugs on him when he convicted these murders. You are confused with his drug encounter when he was 16. But more than likely, you did not get it confused, and you intentionally distorted the truth, because you think Paul is a lunatic, and you hate his cause, so therefore you think you are justified in your misguiding those who read this. This is not your right. Stop trying to change history and make the facts correct. |
Last edited at 22:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 02:27, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
The article gives Hill's motive as "anti-abortion extremism." Is extremism a motive or a moral judgment by someone else? Is the article claiming that Hill wanted to be extreme? Should the motive be rather Belief that abortionists were murdering babies with the belief that he was morally obligated to protect the lives of babies? Or to be short, should the motive be stated as "saving the lives of babies"? The question is not the judgment of others on Hill, but what motivated him, what did he think he was doing. (PeacePeace (talk) 04:25, 5 July 2017 (UTC))
Barrett is called "bodyguard" in John Britton and Paul Jennings Hill, but "clinic escort" in Clinic escort and in the source in Paul Jennings Hill.
The two terms describe fundamentally different concepts, so this should be fixed in all articles.
There appears to be no source for "bodyguard", so I would favor "clinic escort". ---- 91.10.39.145 (talk) 05:31, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
COPIED FOR INFORMATION ONLY, PLEASE DISCUSS ONLY AT Talk:John_Britton_(doctor)#Inconsistency. ---- 91.10.39.145 (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Did any people or organization request a pardon for the death penalty for Paul?
88.1.34.223 (talk) 11:39, 29 May 2019 (UTC)