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Moriarty does not first appear in The Red-Headed League. I guess youre confusing the book with the tv show. The link to the red-headed league article even says it was changed for tv. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.251.185.100 (talk) 17:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I was about to move this to James Moriarty, when it struck me that this is a fictional person. Do naming conventions also apply for fictional persons? Jeronimo
Probably not as much. Also, naming conventions allow (I think) for pseudonyms, stage names, and common names when these are overwhelmingly more known than the person's real name. -- Tarquin 10:15 Sep 13, 2002 (UTC)
I had no idea his first name was James. He's often referred to simply as "Moriarty," and if not that, then usually "Professor Moriarty." --KQ
We ought to keep him as Professor Moriarty as this is how he is better known. For the Doctor Who page, for example, we don't call him by his university name "Sigma Theta"
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Lestrade 20:36, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Lestrade
I hope you don't mind me removing the picture of the waterfall; it seemed highly unnecessary and was kind of clamming the article up. --71.109.37.168 05:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
The article states ...when Geordi LaForge has the computer create a foe, he mistakenly asks it to create a foe "capable of defeating Data" instead of Holmes. Due to this error in phrasing...
However, the episode's article doesn't say it was a mistake in phrasing, neither does the Memory Alpha page.
Geordi purposely wants the computer to create an opponent capable of defeating Data, but does not realize the ramifications of the request until later. Prometheus-X303- 14:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this "He is a man of good birth and excellent education, endowed by nature with a phenomenal mathematical faculty. ..." comes from a book called The Seven Percent Solution, which was not written by Conan Doyle. LDH 01:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
No, Google books finds this in "The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes", by Doyle. LouScheffer 07:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Right you are. What I misremembered from the 7% book was something like, "Who has anything new to say about the binomial theorem these days?" :) LDH 10:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
The following assertion is made at Non-Euclidean geometry#Fiction:
No reference is given. Can someone find a passage that supports the assertion ? — Rgdboer (talk) 23:39, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
No response from 152 watchers over 5 days. The passage was removed. — Rgdboer (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
In an unfavored and forgotten version, Moriarty and Holmes die falling off a cliff. Doyle was so tired of Holmes, so he decieded to kill him. The public didn't like it, so they forced Sir Arthur to make another version. So, Doyle makes Sherlock die in his sleep. The public allowed it. Search for it on Google, I heard this in my British Literature course. --69.67.230.24 03:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly enough, in another forgotten version written later by a friend of Doyle's, that scene is played out from Watson's view, where he finds Holmes attacking himself and punching himself. He subsequently realizes that Moriarity is nothing but Holmes himself. ~ PHDrillSergeant...§ 16:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Jeremy Brett died in his sleep - the actor that portrayed Sherlock Holmes in the UK series. Qewr4231 (talk) 09:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC) Jeremy_Brett
I don't think Moriarty is actually stated as owning this specific picture; Holmes is just using it as an example of how expensive a Greuze is. This was a real painting which really did fetch the amount stated at the sale of the collection of the late James-Alexandre, comte de Pourtalès-Gorgier in 1865; it is mentioned in the 1911 Encylopædia Britannica article on Jean-Baptiste Greuze. Opera hat (talk) 08:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
"It would be. Did you happen to observe a picture over the professor's head?"
"I don't miss much, Mr. Holmes. Maybe I learned that from you. Yes, I saw the picture—a young woman with her head on her hands, peeping at you sideways."
"That painting was by Jean Baptiste Greuze."
The inspector endeavoured to look interested.
"Jean Baptiste Greuze," Holmes continued, joining his finger tips and leaning well back in his chair, "was a French artist who flourished between the years 1750 and 1800. I allude, of course to his working career. Modern criticism has more than indorsed the high opinion formed of him by his contemporaries."
The inspector's eyes grew abstracted. "Hadn't we better—" he said.
"We are doing so," Holmes interrupted. "All that I am saying has a very direct and vital bearing upon what you have called the Birlstone Mystery. In fact, it may in a sense be called the very centre of it."
MacDonald smiled feebly, and looked appealingly to me. "Your thoughts move a bit too quick for me, Mr. Holmes. You leave out a link or two, and I can't get over the gap. What in the whole wide world can be the connection between this dead painting man and the affair at Birlstone?"
"All knowledge comes useful to the detective," remarked Holmes. "Even the trivial fact that in the year 1865 a picture by Greuze entitled La Jeune Fille a l'Agneau fetched one million two hundred thousand francs—more than forty thousand pounds—at the Portalis sale may start a train of reflection in your mind."
How about Moriarty in the anime Sherlock Hound? Egon Eagle (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
While the article shows some real terriblr people in the worldodels, it seems to me neglected a fictional antecedent: analogously to Poe's August Dupin, the unscrupulous Minister D (from the "The Purloined Letter") can be a model for Moriarty. D is both poet and mathematician, expert in Calculus. The Minister D is presented as contemporarily very smart and cunnning. --79.0.93.114 (talk) 21:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article on the flamboyant French criminal/detective Vidocq suggests that he may have been the model for many literary characters, including both Moriarty and Holmes. In French literature he inspired Balzac's master criminal Vautrin . 50.180.19.238 (talk) 03:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
The article states that M never shows his face in the canon, when The Final Problem has 2.5 pages of dialogue between Holmes and M? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noonand (talk • contribs) 13:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
There is some confusion in the article, which I don't know how best to rectify. One or two things are more or less said twice. There is what seems like internal discussion of whether it is two or three times that Moriarty was killed off in the Basil Rathbone films. I don't think I have them all, to check this. I find it just as interesting that he was never played by the same actor twice. And Orson Welles also played both Holmes and Moriarty, for radio in both cases.
Rogersansom (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
"have described this as a pun by Doyle upon the name of Thomas Agnew of the gallery "Thomas Agnew and Sons", who had a famous painting[2] stolen by Adam Worth, but was unable to prove the fact.[1]"
The sentence begins midway through.98.222.213.161 (talk) 02:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The Moriarty in popular culture section is pretty bloated, and seems to be a list of not just depictions, but practically every time the word "Moriarty" has appeared in popular culture. It's pretty much trivia. I reckon we could rename it to Moriarty in later works, condense it down to a paragraph and perhaps have a short list of the most important depictions - i.e.
In later adaptations and derivative works of the Sherlock Holmes stories the character of Moriarty, or derivatives thereof, frequently appears as an antagonist to Sherlock Holmes. In many he is Holmes' principal and greatest nemesis.
Some of the best-known portrayals of Professor Moriarty include:
What do people think? In my opinion the long list doesn't do this article any favors right now. LukeSurl t c 00:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
There is Spanish verb 'morir' which means 'to die' and 'mori' means 'i die' in Spanish, but I assume that the latin (which I do not know) word 'mori' means 'you die'. Then add on the word 'arty' and it impresses me that his name confers 'the art of making you die'. Help me on this, I am not qualified in this area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.104.195.251 (talk) 02:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
"...was introduced primarily as a narrative device to enable Conan Doyle to kill off Sherlock Holmes"
Not sure what the policy is here, but could we consider removing the major plot spoiler in the opening paragraph? Chris112358 (talk) 04:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
This incarnation of moriarty is missing, please add it to the TV's adaptations section Here is here info: Sarah Ezer as Molly Hardy: Shirley's nemesis, and Moriarty counterpart. A newcomer to Sussex Academy, Molly first appeared as Alicia Gianelli's running mate during the school election for student council president. Through an elaborate scheme, Molly is elected student council president. Her true scheming nature is hidden from everyone except Shirley and Bo. Although her machinations are routinely thwarted by Shirley, Molly manages to escape punishment. She is revealed to be a sociopath in "The Case of the Crooked Comic" and is a mastermind of evil genius with an IQ of 160. Molly first appeared in "The Case of the Ruby Ring." It is possible that she is in fact descended from Professor Moriarty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drumerwritter (talk • contribs) 21:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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Should the list of Moriarty appearances in other media also appear in this article? I think not, since this will invariably lead to the divergence of the two lists. Also, these are not about Prof. Moriarty in general, so the separate page is the best place. Other opinions are welcome, of course. LouScheffer (talk) 22:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)