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Article milestones Date Process Result July 19, 2021 Good article nominee Listed August 7, 2021 Peer review Reviewed November 3, 2021 Featured article candidate Promoted September 19, 2023 Good topic candidate Promoted A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 5, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the title of the album Red by Taylor Swift refers to the tumultuous "red" emotions that were evoked from an unhealthy romance she was experiencing during the album's conception? Current status: Featured article

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this was one of the most important albums of Taylor's career since it was a full on pop album and she could move out of country, finally. 46.2.195.227 (talk) 17:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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https://www.ifpi.gr/charts_el.html Mico2091 (talk) 17:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC) You have to put the greek entry of RED in our chart. THANK YOUReply[reply]

 Already done ––FormalDude (talk) 17:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

UK promo CD singles for "State of Grace" indicate that it impacted radio in the UK on March 25, 2013 [[1]], making the song an official single per WP:SINGLE?. I am unsure, however, how this should be sourced, since most single releases are found online rather than on physical releases. Thoughts?

2601:180:8200:63D0:AD25:7130:47D:D67B (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It has been proposed in this section that Red (Taylor Swift album) be renamed and moved to Red (album). A bot will list this discussion on requested moves' current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use ((subst:requested move)). Do not use ((requested move/dated)) directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Red (Taylor Swift album) → Red (album) – This article has 115208 pageviews over 30 days. This is considerably larger than the pageviews of other articles on a 30-day basis, with the King Crimson album that shares the same name only has 13220 pageviews and the rest having less than 5000 pageviews. This makes Red (Taylor Swift album) the primary topic in respect to usage. Brachy08 _(Talk) 07:10, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note: WikiProject Taylor Swift has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note: WikiProject Albums has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note: WikiProject Rock music has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Oppose original proposal, support Red (2012 album) to distinguish from the re-recording. (t · c) buidhe 09:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose: Page views should not be the sole measure here, and Red (album) covers a lot more than just these two, including multiple other albums of high levels of established notability. Especially oppose buidhe's suggestion as R.E.D. (Ne-Yo album) is also from 2012 and highly notable, and "Taylor's Version" is plenty disambiguation on its own. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FWIW the R.E.D. album gets around 1-2 percent as many page views as this one. (t · c) buidhe 10:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

R.E.D. and Red are different names. Brachy08 _(Talk) 13:48, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Oppose per WP:PDAB, and oppose above alternative suggestions. 162 etc. (talk) 17:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support: Clear WP:PDABPRIMARY. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 18:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Oppose I don't think the ratios are sufficient for a PDAB.. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Red (Taylor Swift album) has a ~7:1 pageview with all thirteen other "Red" album articles combined. If this is insufficient for a PDAB, what would be? JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I think more like 100:1 or 50:1 though I'm not in any case much of a PDAB fan. Per WP:PRECISE most qualifiers should be unambiguous. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]