This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
|
This article states a maximum of 25 songs in the final contest, but tallies this up thus: The "big five" countries (=5) The previous year's winnder (=1) 10 qualifiers from 1 semi final (=10) 10 qualifiers from a second semi final (=10)
A total of 26. Could someone clarify/clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.155.101 (talk) 11:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
This article needs to be completely re-written. Following my successful re-write of the main Eurovision article, these sub-articles need the same treatment. Does anyone else want to lend a hand, or is up to me? EuroSong talk 15:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
This article mentions that cover songs are not allowed, but does that mean that parody songs are not allowed as well? 24.250.2.248 (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The 2009 rules (http://eurovision.tv/upload/esc2009rules.pdf) say:
[Content removed due to excessive copying of copyrighted material. CT Cooper · talk 20:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)]
121.90.247.186 (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
This article should be divided into basic rules, i.e. rules that have never changed or have been the same for at least the last 20 years, and rules that have changed through the years. Also, it should clearly state which of the rules that are new, and when they were implemented. As the article currently stands, a reader may, for instance, be lead to think that the two pan-European semi-finals have been around for years, when, in fact, they were introduced for the 2009 contest. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 10:59, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
the link linking to the rules for 2008 was broken so i removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 (talk) 11:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
"Live music ban"
So, have a look at Finland this year, UK in 2003 (and in 2004) and Bosnia & Herzegovina this year... the list goes on of guitars and pianos (Romania in 2010 & 2011) played. (By the way, Moldova 2010's famous saxophone was faking) What is recognised by the officials? --Spa-Franks (talk) 09:18, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
1. Purely instrumental songs: the description here in the article was that instrumentals are considered "tantamount" to cheating (who chose such a horrible word?), anyway, can anyone explain how THAT is considered cheating? It doesn't make any sense and it doesn't reference anything at all, so I'm simplifying that description into the only thing we have as a fact, which is that there has never been a purely instrumental composition in the contest.
2. Now, the thing about live instruments... As Spa-Franks says above me, there have been some instruments in the contest in recent years. Sure, maybe a guitar can be unplugged so that it's only "for show", and the aforementioned saxophone can just be "not blown into" so that it doesn't produce a sound, but what about the drums? You can't really unplug an acoustic drumkit so... I think we need more clarification into the whole "live music ban". Does it apply to everything except percussion instruments or something? Cancerbero 8 (talk) 13:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone else think the list of years/countries with "unusual" language choices is trivia? What does it take to qualify for that section? Why is Germany's reprise sung in four common Eurovision languages special? And how is Austria's use of German special? It's also terribly out of date. Esma sang in Romani in 2013, for example. Can we just remove this section entirely? Mr. Gerbear|Talk 08:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
How come was Maarja-Liis Ilus only 15 (born December 24th 1980) in 1996 if the contestants were supposed to be 16 when the competition was held? Were the rules different back then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.68.30 (talk) 20:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
The current version of the page says "purely instrumental pieces have never been allowed." however the current version of the rules, for my interpretation, does not explicitly ban songs that are purely instrumental or don't have a lead vocalist. (https://eurovision.tv/about/rules)
For the Eurovision Song Contest 2022, a song by a group that performs in a sign language has been submitted to the selection process for Poland. Is this notable for the discussion on instrumental or "vocaless" songs? Would it be more fair to say that no purely instrumental song has been accepted to the ESC currently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Two Separate Gorillas (talk • contribs) 10:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Some parts of the tiebreaker rules are incorrect
The tiebreaker was used in 2002 to decide who would be relegated between The Netherlands and Latvia (both received 16 points in 2001, but Latvia was allowed to participate in 2002 because they had received 2 sets of 8)
The rule that advantage to the country that received points from the most countries was introduced in 2004 at the earliest. Malta was an automatic qualifier in 2005 because in 2004 it received points from more countries than Croatia (even though Croatia's highest set of points was 10) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.47.114.81 (talk) 01:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
@Sims2aholic8: The source [1] says "plugging instruments to play live on stage shall not be allowed." I don't see how this would mean "no live instrumentation allowed" or make orchestra impossible. C9mVio9JRy (talk) 10:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
All songs shall be performed live on stage with a recorded Backing track[...]; meaning, as well as the "plugging instruments" section, there can be no live instrumentation because every song has to be performed to a backing track, and therefore, at least according to the current rules, there can be no orchestra, at least for the competition entries. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)