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When did Morgan Le Fay/Bedivere bring Arthur to avalon? Infact, how did Morgan get into the picture at all? Ive never heard of her even mentioned in any telling about saber's story before now actually. Can someone with the game confirm that this actually occured? As far as i can tell Arthur dies then is brought by the lady of the lake to Avalon, but this only occurs AFTER she goes back to her own time and chooses not to re-do the selection of the king. The article has it listed that she is already in Avalon before making the pact with the world. -- Question2
154 cm is not tall at all. But she looks more tall, may be the dress. ;-) --Magallanes 17:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Came across a fansite that states that Sabre's sword IA is actually Clarent (aka The Sword in the Stone, for those of you not familiar with the name). Is anyone familiar with the game aware of this, or is it fancruft?--み使い Mitsukai 00:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I added in information about Excalibur's sheath. If you think this shouldn't belong here as it is a very big spoiler, please edit to your discretion. Mirioki 15:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
King Arthur had ginger hair, why doesn't Saber? Worth a mention? Bowen 20:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the Celas and Guinevere mentions in the article. There is no mention of the Celas surname in Fate (and it is confirmed that Arthuria is the daughter of Uther Pendragon). Also, Arthuria cannot be the base for the legend of Guinevere because she actually exists in that era, going by the mentions of her in hollow ataraxia and the background history of Saber in the Fate status menu. --Abahg32 19:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought but, how about changing Saber’s image to this one? I think it fits a bit more with her usual aura. In reality, I was thinking about this one but the Excalibur/Caliburn/Whichever is showing and I'm not certain if that would be a problem. Ephyon 21:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, it is the same pose. Someone else do the editing though, I'm not sure how to go around with images. Copyright info should be the same since it's from the game CG as well. Done. Ephyon 00:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
What is with the "alignment" row in the table? Since when does anything aside from D&D have an alignment system like that? Also, we need a lot of citations in here, not just for the alignment weirdness. -Unsigned
Alignment comes straight from the rest of the character stats section (which seems to have been cut from every character description again). It seems pointless to include ranks for attacks when you don't have the stats to baseline them against anymore. Can the anime fans please stop deleting everything just because they haven't played the game? kthx 99.243.161.188 (talk) 12:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
While some of the servants seem to have skills that are described (for instance, see Rider and her "Riding" skill description), Saber, Gilgamesh and a few other Servants don't appear to have their skills described. In Saber's case, this refers to Instinct, Charisma, Riding, Magic Resistance and Mana Burst. -Drium
Whoever deleted the skill and ability descriptions, I put them in there again. The other Servant articles feature descriptions of their abilities, so why shouldn't Saber have them, too? Also, the subtitle of Saber's Avalon Noble Phantasm is NOT The Ever-Distant Utopia. It's "All is a Distant Utopia". It's Engrish, but it's still the proper translation. "All is a Distant Utopia" was also used by Mirror Moon who translated the Fate route of the Visual Novel. I'm well aware that "The Ever-Distant Utopia" sounds better, but it's simply wrong. SaberBTD 12:01, 19 November 2008 (GMT+1)
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Is there any material to proof it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.62.138.73 (talk) 09:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
In his transformed state, Gilgamesh is wearing Golden Armour. Similarly in mythology, you have Mordred wearing golden armour. You can see depictions of this in Excalibur and also in Justice League Unlimite when he transforms into an adult. I think this is sort of a reference. Gilgamesh sort of takes on this aspect of Mordred, even though Mordred still exists as a character in Fate. The parables in their relationship do go a bit further, like how Gilgamesh tries to rape Saber, might be compared to how Morgana rapes Arthur in Excalibur or how Uther rapes Igraine. Mordred's heart gets corrupted by Morgana's sorcery, whereas Gilgamesh drinks the ooze to keep himself alive and (might be) corrupted. Tyciol (talk) 15:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I know this is a visual novel, but still doesn't this article sounds kind of like too much of a guide? -- クラウド668 17:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have any kind of source for the "talents" portion of the Servant Status section? These seem like weird things for Saber to be talented in, and I've personally never heard of them outside this article. 0seveN (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
This article badly needs to be rewritten from the ground up so that it doesn't sound
1. In-universe 2. Completely forcused on F/sn and ignoring F/z 3. Like a fanboy's musings rather than an informative, neutral article
I have done what I can for now, but it still needs a lot of work.
Overmage (talk) 01:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey Are You sure Saber and Shirou are Capcom Protagonists? Cause, they we technically created by Type-Moon and only happen to be in games that were co-created by Capcom.175.143.251.55 (talk) 13:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.139.96.254 (talk)
So it appears we have too many translations of Saber's true name to the point the prose mentions three versions. A name needs to be consistent but if Saber's name is mistranslated in an official English release, then it is also worth mention.Tintor2 (talk) 21:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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Connection to Gray mentioned in The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II light novel. Will find the page number. Hcobb (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
"Some critics, however, have expressed their dislike of Saber's lack of character development and relevance in other routes adapted by anime series. Her characterization in Zero, and her lack of screen-time in other anime adaptations was also met with negative response. Nevertheless, Saber has been popular within the Fate series and anime in general."
This doesn't feel right. I only see two criticisms for her role in Zero (Source no. 89 and 95). Other reviewers have praised her relationship with the characters and her fight scenes. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the lead?
Also, source no. 95:
"Fandom Post also said Saber is one of the weakest characters from this story due to her lack of skills and motivations, which the other characters mock to the surprise of former viewers of the Fate franchise."
This is...inaccurate? This is what they said:
"With Gilgamesh as a king, we even get a great episode where it’s essentially him and two of the other kings of the past sitting together and talking about the ways of rulership. Each is instrumental in understanding that character and how they approach life as it reveals so much through the little bits of off dialogue throughout. And to the surprise of many, depending on how you view the conversations, Saber really comes out the weakest of them. Of course, that may partially be my enjoyment of how Alexander views life and rulership."
They just said that Saber had the weakest view/ways about rulership. They didn't say anything about her being mocked by the others or her being one of the weakest character of the story. And here's what they said in their review for the second season:
"We get a far more personal fight between Saber and Berserker, finally finding out who it is under that mask which brings up some painful history for Saber that is really good to watch. What I like in particular is that it does take away from the idea that Saber is the one that will end things, something those that watched Fate/Stay Night knew wouldn’t happen, since she was painted as the right and true type here. She has a harsh reckoning here and seeing her back in the time between realizing the pain she caused, and suffered herself, while getting a glimmer of the future definitely hits all the right sweet spots."
They actually praised her role, shouldn't we mention it? https://www.fandompost.com/2014/01/20/fatezero-limited-edition-blu-ray-box-set-2-anime-review/
Honestly, the reception is poorly written because it does not exactly explain what they reviewers are discussing. No offense to the person who wrote the reception but I feel they have misread what the reviewers are actually writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.128.87.226 (talk) 01:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I believe that her reception should be expanded like Shirou's since Saber is the most popular and one of the most revered character in Fate series.94.128.87.226 (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)