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L33thaxor.tk should be posted as a shock site considering the number of people who have been posting it recently. People have posted it on games forums, pretending it is a link to a game hacks site. I don't see why it is not considered a shock site, considering it is both disgusting and the URL is very misleading and and has been used to easily trick people in hacking communities and gaming communities into going to the page.
What's the procedure for proving these kinds of things? I don't know how one proves whether something is a shock site, considering they usually don't have news articles or encyclopedia databases on this kind of stuff. All I know is that it's listed under some sites that show up when you google l33thaxor.tk.
A search for l33thaxor in google turns it up as the second result after l33thaxor.com, google l33thaxor.tk returns it listed on multiple wiki shock site databases along with posts made by forum trolls linking to it. It appears someone made a YTMND for it as someone had been spreading it all over IRC at leethaxor.ytmnd.com
should, or should not (every time a still viable site is listed, at least), the links provided to shock sites be clickable (for those who come here looking for instant validation?) Autopilots 06:32, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
Bakla.net should be removed from this article. There is little shocking about its content. Big whoop, a super-imposed penis on a woman. Bakla.net isn't even close to the shock value of goatsex or tubgirl. Kingturtle 01:00 29 May 2003 (UTC)
I agree - not even slightly shocking. In fact, the information relating to the photographs is incorrect in one major respect - it is not a fake. I added a comment in the text stating that is is PROBABLY not a fake, but actually I KNOW it's not a fake. (see ladyboy-ladyboy.com Whether it is or not, it's still not shocking to me - I can't think who might be shocked by it, but then again that's totally subjective. So much so that I can't really see what the point of this page is, to be honest I feel it has no place in Wikipedia at all. But if it stays, at least this section should be deleted. GRAHAMUK 06:57 29 May 2003 (UTC)
Bakla.net is still shocking to those who aren't used to ladyboys.
For instance, Joe Somebody gets a link to Bakla and starts looking at the site, thinking the woman is pretty and attractive. Then when he finds the "Woman" has a penis, it would make him hurl.
But you are right that it shows two different people! - Whisper
I think bakla should be kept, because the intent of the site is to shock its viewers. We should just clarify in the article that there are different kinds/degrees of shock sites. I also vaguely remember a ghost animation site that was pretty creepy. --Eloquence 19:40 29 May 2003 (UTC)
It really should go. Not mildly shocking, unless one is homophobic. RickK 23:57, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Uhh, eloquence, how did I "break the page"? It works fine on my browser. I use IE 6. --Whispertothewind
For instance, Joe Somebody gets a link to Bakla and starts looking at the site, thinking the woman is pretty and attractive. Then when he finds the "Woman" has a penis, it would make him hurl.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Maybe it makes you hurl, but that's your problem. You are projecting onto "Joe Somebody" (== everybody), something which is an exaggeration (surely?) of something you vaguely feel. Also, consider the feelings of a person who is transgendered in such a way - quite common - knowing that somebody is likely to "hurl" just because of the way their sexual organs is formed is pretty hurtful. Would you "hurl" at pictures of thalidomide victims? Or what if you passed one in the street? It's not like it's even a freaky looking penis, it's just a penis... OK, so its porn and that distorts the argument, it's not like she hasn't chosen to be photographed and presented, etc (or perhaps not, but that's another argument altogether). Anyway, thing is that such people do exist, the shock value is (for most people) is probably next to nil, and there is always the denial route (i.e. it's a fake) if you still can't face up to the reality.
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1. Not everybody on the internet is familiar with these kinds of sites, and Bakla.net would shock those types of people. I'm familiar with Shocks sites, therefore I wasn't extremely shocked by the naked lady boy. It would certainly shock an impressionable man who got pictures of a "cute girl" only to find she's a lady boy.
2. What makes the person "hurl" is the trickery. The webpage at first makes you think this is just another pretty lady, then it reveals she isn't as feminine as she seems. Whether or not it was done with photoshop, it would still be shocking to the person looking at the photogtaph.
3. I DID take the denial route because I saw the Goatse giver image manipulated, and I thought that particular image was manipulated too until I learned about the lady boys in Thailand.
But yea, i'm sorry for accidentally wrecking the page that time. Thank the lord Wikipedia saves the previous versions of the article. ._. --Whispertothewind
"A shock site is a website whose contents are chosen to be offensive to most viewers." This sounds like the viewers have CHOSEN to be offended. I am going to rephrase the first sentence accordingly. Kingturtle 03:53 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I think these site examples should go as seperate articles linked from this page (or at least the goatse.cx one which is very popular). -- Ilyanep
Someone should add a section on Lemon Party, since it still occasionally gets linked to from Slashdot. Kricxjo 18:46 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Ahh: you were right Eloquence - and the subtle change in the headers has helped me see that :) Martin 23:36, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)
What is the URL of Lemonparty? ~ Whispertome
How is this shocking? What makes it different from any other gay porn site? RickK 23:59, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Truely, when I remember the absolutely incredible amount of discussion there was over putting a little picture on the clitoris image, while this article exist and give the most disgusting links with direct access to the most horrifying pictures, I am astonished. I cannot believe that some people complain about the poor insertion or even a media link to a very reasonable image of a clitoris, even with painted nails (what is wrong with painted nails anyway ?) and accept that their kids can get here (mind you, a reasonable explanation of what a shock site is is okay) but from here may go to an incredibly high number of external sites. There are not so many articles with so many external links. Do we really need to make a highway to these sites ? Anthère
Here is some of the links included in the page
Among these ones, goatse.cx, hick.org/goat, goat.cx lead to *exactly* the same picture. www.dangerz.net/gatasa/article.shtml is hardly different, just less gross
goatse.cx/contrib/gap.zip is of little interest. The link the web site is abundently provided. If users are really interested, I am sure they can make the effort to look for this file by themselves.
goat.cx, www.goatse.cx/giver.html, www.goatse.cx/contrib.html and www.goatse.cx/mail.html are all *very clearly* linked together. I think putting the link just to one of them is really enough. Again, a reasonably bright person can be expected to click on one of the three links provided to access the other 3 pages. Even a very low iq can do that, so I don't think we need to give all subpages.
In short, of 8 links on this page, we could keep only one, perhaps two.
There is a moment where giving all the subpages of a website is not information any more, but just imposing things on readers. It is not even a question of censorship here, but could be confused with pure delight in playing with gross stuff. It is totally wrong to force external links on readers without a justification. Repeating the same links over and over is just wrong. And it will have to go away. Anthère
I'm not clear on the relevance of this. Is sie Thai? Even if sie is, does it matter?
I tried to find a reference for this, and couldn't. A name would have helped, a link would have helped more. So I'm not convinced that it's verifiable (if it is, it isn't by me). Martin 22:17, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Katoeys need to be reexamined. They really are the third sex and many men fall for their attraction. A good developing resource can be found here:www.soi-katoey.com
"QUOTE: ::::I would support removing some of the stuff which I do not think really qualifies as shock site (such as the Bakla.net site), but in general I think it's wrong to ask the question "do we need this?" but more appropriate to ask "is there any reason to remove this?". One reason to remove some of the links might be obscenity law in the United States.—Eloquence 21:54, Sep 19, 2003 (UTC)"
Eloquence, read about the Miller Test of Obscenity. If a site violated US law by violating the Miller test, it would not be up. Very little porn gets snared in the Miller test. I don't think there is any way which the aforementioned sites will get snared in the Miller test. Also, I added back the mirrors because they are THERE. They are alternative URL's which can trick people into the shock site. 67.74.134.193 07:52, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
the goal of wikipedia is not to provide all the links to shock sites, and it is not either its role to provide liberally links to sites that might trick people (just providing them is a sort of a trick). The role is to explain what is a shock site. Nothing else.
That doesn't mean that Wikipedia shouldn't link to the sites, provided that ample warning is given. if someone wants to learn more about the innapropriate site by going there, so be it. The mirrors to the shock sites are staying.
And please IDENTIFY yourself by putting four tildes after your name. WhisperToMe 01:08, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I copy here the comment I put on your talk page
Hello
I would prefer the list of mirror sites not to be in the article. You may mention in the article that they were several mirror sites tricking people to make them see the picture. This is the relevant information. Putting the links is not adding any information if the mirror existence is stated, and if the pict link is already provided.
I will add that I am personnaly shocked by your line The mirrors to the shock sites are staying. Articles are written upon consensus, and that I know, you have not specific right to decide how they are gonna be. Note that I said "I would prefer".
I would prefer that the list of mirror sites do not stay. Anthère
Alright, you can keep it the way you want. Why should the filenames of the Bakla.net pictures not be shown, however?
I'm sorry about that, though. I just got a high temper because it felt like "going backwards". The history shows that someone else put in these links to the other locations, and they stayed for a long time. WhisperToMe 02:54, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
That brings up another reason why I got so angry. Even if the mirrors are listed, they are much harder to find by someone skimming the article. By having them listed, it is much easier for someone skimming to see that they are mirrors. And that can lead to problems with people being tricked to the mirrors. Also, the article no longer says what goat.cx and hick.org/goat are. It just lists where they are based. WhisperToMe 04:07, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I recognise the necessity some could see at giving the names or adresses of these sites. But I still object to those being directly accessible by a single click on the link. Since the only argument really offered to support leaving these links here is to see the name and adress, I think leaving non clickable links is a fair compromise. The adresses are still available, but not as easily.
Was that really a "peg" that was being used in gap.zip? Looked more like some sort of toy penis to me.
Whats the URL to the Harlequin Baby? I think that site should be included with the other 4 (Goatse, Tubgirl, Bakla, and the defunct Lemonparty) 67.74.134.184 02:15, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
What's snuffx.com? I think I can guess what's at shitfreaks.com... Othersider 12:10, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
The separate sites should be described in separate entries, especially when they get as large as the Goatse.cx discussion. I'm going to break that one off. --The Cunctator 13:04, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
To me, the article looks an absolutely hideous mess. Perhaps it's an exercise in self-reference? ;)
A general article shouldn't be a collection of independent articles on specific examples, tacked together one after the other. The purpose of any article should be to give a general overview of the subject. Obviously that involves, in part, describing the best-known and most influential examples, because that's necessary to understand the subject. But these examples should be presented with context, showing how they fit into the general scheme of things. ("This is the earliest example", "this is the best-known example", and so on.) Enough information should be given about them to tell the reader what the sites are, but beyond that, only information that illuminates the general subject should be included. (In case anyone thinks I'm being inconsistent here, I want to stress that I don't think the details should be removed from the Wikipedia altogether. I think that details about a specific example in a general article are fair enough until there's enough material to split them off into a separate article of non-trivial size, but I see this as an unfortunate and hopefully only temporary necessity, rather than something to be strived for.)
With the single exception of the opening line in the section on goatse.cx ("Goatse.cx is a widely-known shock site, with internet trolls heavily promoting (or secretly linking to) the site"), nothing in these sections tells us anything about these sites' importance to the general subject. Information on, say, the location or detailed contents of goatse.cx (or any of the other sites) in a general article seems to me no more relevant than information on the location or prominent landmarks of France (or any other country) in the country article. I'd be interested to know how Martin found the single article "more informative".
Anyway, where was this "careful consensus decision" made? I've skimmed through this talk page and its archive, but I can't find the discussion. (When referring people to previous discussions, please provide links!) -- Oliver P. 03:44, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Last Measure isn't really a "shock site" by Wikipedia's definition, although people who read the article so that they will know what to look out for would want to know about it. Also, its description needs to be fixed up.
Harlequin Fetus is very shocking and ought to be added. --An anonymous stopping by
Well, what's its URL? WhisperToMe 20:49, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I think what we should do is split the article into two articles - one talking about Shock sites and how they're used, etc, the other one listing the most notorious shock sites. 81.129.118.94 11:46, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Last Measure's popups may still be blocked by MozillaFirebird, but the main page with the "GAY PORNO" voice, and the poo-faced lady ARE NOT.
The link to the "RIP Goatse" cartoon is blocked by the target site. It seems to be interpreted as hotlinking. Maybe we should ask the admins to allow referrals from wikipedia. Marnanel 00:28, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Erm, is it ok if someone with a stable stomach and knowledge of Finnish try to translate what is on the goatse.fi page? The hello.jpg image is there, but so is a caption in Finnish (or is it Swedish? More likely the former...) WhisperToMe 00:15, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Splitting this into two sounds like a good idea (one for shock sites, another for examples with detailed descriptions). It would also make sense to dig up some specific examples of hidden links from Slashdot or other forums to these sites. I am also thinking that sites, which try to scare visitors (look at the picture for 30 seconds and then it changes into some scary face and a loud cry is played through the speakers), might also be mentioned in this article.
outspired.yo.lv/whatswrong.swf www.jaybill.com/article.php?articleID=49 (a copy of the above?) www.liquidgeneration.com/sabotage/vision_sabotage.asp rubberpants.phenominet.com/index.waldo
I don't know if this is relevant to the goatse.cx, but check it out: web.archive.org/web/20030124023707/thejokefactory.org/NTJF/Food/bigapple.jpg
Paranoid, 21.02.2004
It's surprising that people have put so much time into this entry. There is a copy of the RIP goatse cartoon on stileproject.com
This article is way too long with too much listing of details about examples instead of discussing the actual subject matter. I completely
agree with Oliver P. above; move the site blow-by-blow descriptions to articles of their own.
194.47.144.5 08:34, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
About a year or more ago my roommate came across a site called cheesythighs. It features a woman with spread legs and some type of completely gangrenous/rotten pus. It is easily the most disgusting picture I've ever seen, but seems to have disappeared from the net, which I find strange. Any recollection of it anyone?
Metoday
Some of these images are significant in that some are foudn in others, but this article shouldn't become the repository of all things shock images... Dysprosia 10:55, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Is there any good reason why none of these links are active?
Darrien 11:11, 2004 Apr 24 (UTC)
The Pain Series was shut down due to TOS violations. I dunno about the Tubgirl.com redirect site. WhisperToMe 22:58, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Why is Rotten not listed among the shock sites? Isn't it one of the original purveyors of disgusting imagery? They are referred to in the discussions of a few other sites, but should have its own section.
There is rotten.com. Of course, it can be listed here. WhisperToMe 23:20, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Question, what exactly does wilwheaton.org's whois information have to do with anything? It's more than likely false, i mean check out nero-online.org's info while you're at it. --Goat-see 03:29, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Which is why the phrase "according to the WHOIS information" is there. It describes the source so people know that it can be fabricated. WhisperToMe 06:11, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I really think Goatse should be moved to a separate article. Mainly because it's getting lengthy, but also because of how well known it is (compared to any other shock site). A summary should be kept, of course. Fredrik 13:36, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Maybe we could have a separate page for just a list of links, and keep this page for the information. Both pages could refer to each other.
On slightly different subject, considering all the weird hentai and anime pictures in the pain series, this picture: vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Anaktis/Adult_Stuff/Disturbingly_Cute_Herm_fox.jpg vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Anaktis/Adult_Stuff/Disturbingly_Cute_Herm_fox.jpg could fit right in. --24.194.68.19 02:00, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
True or false: This article should be marked as an X-rated article, that is, a page where you must be at least 18 years of age to visit. 66.245.102.55 00:51, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
What the heck? The warning is enough, man. WhisperToMe 02:40, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
User:Paullusmagnus believes that we should not discuss Last measure in as much depth as it is right now in the Shock site article, as he argues that the site is not well known.
I think that it should be discussed in detail, as there is a lot to note about the said site, and that I think that we should record as much details as possible so that people can learn all about the site without actually having to go there.
Any opinions on this matter? WhisperToMe 05:39, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
I don't think the depth the article goes into is inappropriate; I feel something discussed in this much detail merits its own article, Last Measure, instead of it being a redirect to Shock Site, just as goatse.cx has its own. Ich 16:00, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
I just looked through the entire pain series (morbid curiosity). I couldn't tell what all the pictures were, and was hoping this page would help.
The lists of what are shown in the Pain Series, here, are not comprehensive. There are several other images in each photo.
Personally, I'm gonna be weaselly and say: I've paid my dues. And I'd rather not go back to those photos. ::Shudders:: Let's just say I'll have bad dreams tonight.
So... any candidates for accuracy work re: the Pain Series? Mike Church 05:27, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
I thought I did that already! WhisperToMe 05:33, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
I don't think this thing redirects on a strictly random basis. I messed around with it for a bit (in lynx), and got redirected to wilwheaton.net about 90% of the time (I stopped after about 30 tries when I got spin.gif and realized that lynx has the rather disagreeable habit of automatically downloading and opening image files in Mozilla). Kairos 06:18, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
Some anon users want to keep that site. Hmm... what should we do? WhisperToMe 21:22, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
im curious, have sites ever been removed from that list, say on account of it not being well-known or something? Frencheigh 21:43, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I actually don't think they have. I put in a shock site that isn't that well known, but is notable because it shows Nick Berg getting killed. WhisperToMe 22:06, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Let Teentitparty.com STAY!!. wikimaster 26:06, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, I think this one is ok to stay. It's sufficiently shocking and gross, but it's also quite funny. As long as there is a professional description of it and not this typical "OMG, so gross, lol Wilkipedia is teh Hitler" type commentary that has been popping up all afternoon, I'm all for adding this to the list. If we add it to the list, it will become quite well known in no time at all. THE INTERNET OVERLORD 26:08, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Let em stay. It's legit enough. User:moreshock:moreshock 27:05, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Please note that both wikimaster and internet overlord have ONLY edited this page, and that the user calling him/herself moreshock is actually User:4.155.120.156. Sockpuppets all. And "internet overlod", this is an encyclopedia, we don't put things on external links lists so that they will become quite well known. RickK 05:09, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)
I really don't think this one needs to be in this article. Kairos 09:08, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
concidering google hasnt even spidered this site yet, nor is there mention of it elsewhere (according to google), this is about as unknown as it can be. so i imagine the, uh, vigorus attempts to keep it here are attempts to make its debut. Frencheigh 22:30, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I think the point that the others are making is that Wikipedia should not be used to make a site more popular, if it isn't already popular in the first place. WhisperToMe 03:09, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I was redirected here from last measure, which this article doesn't explain. Are "shock sites" also called "last measure" sites or something, and if so, could we explain why? func(talk) 01:23, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The information WAS in this article, but someone moved it to "List of shock sites". WhisperToMe 01:57, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I am propsosing that this article is merged with List of shock sites. This is because at each of the four AfD nominiations for that article, many people have suggested this should be done, but nothing ever happens about it. Skinmeister 18:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I have added the cited "list of shock sites" to this article, as the article "list of shock sites" was protected while in a reverted state. - Conrad Devonshire 02:13, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I have merged List of shock sites to this article. There was a lot of discussion going on at Talk:List of shock sites about which sites we should mention and which ones we shouldn't, and about finding reliable sources for the list material. I have changed the ((NPOV)) tag from that page to a ((Disputed-section)) tag here; the fact of the matter is, we haven't established very well that all of those sites belong there, but there are political factors preventing their outright removal. I have suggested on the other talk page that all future discussion take place here, so this is here to start that off. Mangojuicetalk 12:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Another editor moved Meatspin to the major shock sites section but his edits were reverted by others; I have reverted this back as Meatspin seems to have received more attention than most of these sites. I removed the imitator "youaresogay" after finding virtually no ghits for it. I think we're almost ready to remove the "disputed" tag; I just want to ask two questions: can anyone vouch for "faggotry.com"? And should "Cherrycake.org" be here at all, and if so, is it really a "major" shock site? Cherrycake has an Alexa rank of about 1.1 million and Alexa shows no sites linking in, compared with 72 for Tubgirl and over 130 for goatse. Mangojuicetalk 03:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, should Snickerbars.com and Biggernigger.com be included? I have heard of these before outside of Wikipedia. The other ones added recently don't sound particularly noteable though. Foolish Child 19:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Snickerbars should be added. People come to Wikipedia to get information. A full list and description of all notable shocksites should be included. Snickerbars seems to be spreading and its name which is confusing is enough to lead people to view the site.--Soccer skills 03:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Should www.jewsdidwtc.com www.jewsdidwtc.com be listed as a shock site? It fits the definition of the article perfectly, even if it doesn't prominently display an offensive image. I can't really see any other purpose behind it other than offending people anyway. Foolish Child 18:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Apparently, we need a citation for Lemonparty having been offline for a number of years and then restored. Well, the best I can do is that Archive.org has no records of it during the years 1996 and 1999, and during the year 2003 it merely displayed the text "test!". I'll try and refine this, but for now that's the best I can do. Foolish Child 17:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Scrap that, web.archive.org/web/*sa_/lemonparty.org/ Archive.org's Lemonparty records (SFW)
This shows that the site started on October 11 2002, was offline between July 18 2003 and November 19 2003, and between June 6 2004 and July 12 2004. The domain appears to have been sold between March 3 2005 and March 12 2005. And it did indeed include a link saying "omfg crazy! Click here to wash your eyeballs!", leading to kitty.jpg, which I presume is the aforemention kitten picture, but it doesn't seem to load for me. Foolish Child 17:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I found a "press release" from GNAA (last measure folks) mentioning that they included lemonparty. They're a kind of expert on shock sites/disgusting memes, so I put it in as a source for both Last Measure and Lemonparty. Mangojuicetalk 21:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Every "shock site" that is listed needs to include a Reliable source that calls it a "shock site". Anything less then that and it's Original Research. I'll start removing the unsourced sites this weekend. (so as to give time for reliable sources to be found.) ---J.S (t|c) 19:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
This one really needs a source or we should lose it. Apparently we're the only source out there that talks about it: I searched, and couldn't find any mentions anywhere, but I did find this forums.kingdomofloathing.com/viewtopic.php?p=1621781#1621781 forum posting suggesting that WE are a good source. Not good. Mangojuicetalk 21:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
They only other reference I found to it is this - cherrycake.ytmnd.com WARNING: CONTAINS THE IMAGE, not much of a source I know. Foolish Child 15:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
What do others think of the idea of semiprotecting this page? I was thinking of a semi-permanent state of semi-protection. My reasoning is that this page attracts a LOT of edits from IP editors who invariably just add sites to the list with no concept of the discussion we're having, nor of Wikipedia policies and so on. It seems like this page really isn't being helped by being open to IP editors. Mangojuicetalk 23:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
We need a source for Meatspin. Right now we have a link to an ebay auction for the domain name, not exactly what we're looking for. Mangojuicetalk 13:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it intended for the "External link: www.meatspin.com" to go to a completely different site? Viper007Bond 22:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn’t there be a notice present somewhere on the article -- or near the external links -- warning that the links presented are direct URLs to the extremely graphic images described?
It just seems rather unusual that their is not a single discloser on the page. Crimson 11:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody please explain why fuck.org is not a shock site? The image is certainly the most prominent part of the page, and it seems intended to shock people. Thus, why is it that persons remove it from this article? -- D-Katana 11:05, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Check the Encyclopedia Dramatica article. www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Fuck.org www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Fuck.org. Foolish Child 08:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I just removed several sites. I had proposed to remove them a long while ago (on Talk:List of shock sites), but they are still unreferenced, and I now, as then, feel we're never going to find refs for them. Specifically, I removed:
I don't expect any of these to be controversial except perhaps Klerck. I left only two that are totally unreferenced: Workse and Bottleguy. I have a feeling we could probably lose Workse, it has only 1 YTMND, and no shocking images show up in a google image search for "Workse". Bottleguy has 4 YTMNDs and a high ghit rank, so it has potential. Penis bird is sourced, Teletorrents is self-evidently a shock site, from the "banners" on the site (though, is it significant enough to mention?), and ShrewsburyCollege.co.uk was apparently in the news. (I tried to verify it, but the Shrewsbury Chronicle doesn't have archives online, so I didn't succeed.) Mangojuicetalk 18:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
This doesn't show up on google. Alexa gives 5 sites linking in and a rank of over 400K. There's no chance this is going to have a reliable source, in my opinion. To whoever keeps adding this, please stop. Find a reliable source that describes Brad.com as a shock site, or I will continue to revert its inclusion. Admittedly, Brad.com is probably more popular than Porkhole, but neither one seems to have any shred of evidence. If they don't show up on a google search, I have no idea how we could ever find a reliable source. Mangojuicetalk 12:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know who the girl in the www.supermodelsfart.com picture is? I am just curious to the history of the picture, and I am wondering if she is a rape victim. - Harold
It appears that any links to goatse.ca have been blocked from Wikipedia. Is there any way to appeal this? Foolish Child 18:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I believe we need to have some requirements for adding a shock site to prevent users coming along and adding them. I'll start.
Any newly added shocksites must comply with these set of rules.
Any newly added shocksites must comply with these rules.
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Please add any other requirements you feel are needed.--Andeh 08:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
This shocksite is just part of rotten.com (an archive of shocking images), it's a not a site in itself. Meaning you could say any image on rotten.com is a shocksite. The only reason it's notable is because it has been used on Slashdot forums a lot. Who thinks this should be removed?
Here is what it currently looks like on the article:
What are your thoughts on this proposal?--Andeh 17:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking it's time we get rid of the remaining sites that don't have references discussing them. This includes Meatspin, Bottleguy, Supermodelsfart, Workse, and Moid. Technically, Teletorrents isn't referenced either, but www.teletorrents.org/banners.php could be used: they are trying to get people to troll for that site. It's a self-ref, but clearly unambiguous. Comments? Mangojuicetalk 20:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Could I have a real reason why porkhole.net shouldn't be up there? I mean it doesn't matter how much traffic a site gets, even though porkhole gets a decent amount. But the less sites you have in the shock site list, the more chance new shock sites that are unknown will be exploited to people that don't have a desire to view the content of it. Some people use the list for laughs, some to find what material to block from their family viewing. Whatever the case, you should really put more sites up there, and indisputable porkhole should be on there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.22.244.93 (talk • contribs)
To explain my removal of moid: (1) its Alexa rank is pretty low, around 250K. (2) searching for "moid" gets a huge number of google hits, but most of them are unrelated to the shock site. (3) in any case, Moid isn't its own shock site, but rather a repository of gross images. (4) no reference. (Speaking of which, I'm going to remove meatspin soon if we can't find a reference for it.) Mangojuicetalk 23:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
www.mudfall.com
www.thepounder.com
Sources? Foolish Child 18:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)