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The result of the move request was: Moved Late Show (CBS TV series) to The Late Show (franchise) and The Late Show (Fox TV series) to The Late Show (1986 talk show). (Closer's note: these are improvements but I suggest even better disambiguators can be found). (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 18:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
– There are several issues here. The first is that "Late Show" has been known as "The Late Show" since Stephen Colbert took over in 2016 (and was often referred to as "the Late Show" even under David Letterman), so the title should be moved/updated to reflect this. Second, "by network" disambiguation has been deprecated under WP:NCTV as too obscure for readers (esp. for international readers), so these need to be switched to "by year" disambiguation as per WP:NCTV. Third, neither of these are a "TV series" (i.e. with "continuing story elements" as per WP:NCTV) – indeed both articles, and the disambiguation page The Late Show, all make clear that these are "talk shows", so that is how they should be disambiguated as per WP:NCTV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 20:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
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. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.My problem here, which has come up elsewhere, is that we tend to not differentiate between a singular TV series, and a plural of TV series using the name prefix/suffix. The Late Show (CBS TV series) article is not a TV series, as it talks about the "thing" called Late Show that aired on CBS, while The Late Show (Fox TV series) is a TV series. For lack of better word, I'd call the CBS article a franchise and use that to disambiguate it -> Late Show (franchise). The Fox version does indeed need to be disambiguated as proposed. --Gonnym (talk) 08:18, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
According to the United States Patent and Trademark Office the words/marks "Late Show" and "The Late Late Show" (See here and here) are owned by David Letterman through his production company Worldwide Pants Incorporated and not CBS Briadcasting Inc. nor its parent company ViacomCBS even though CBS and ViacomCBS apparently still think they do. So would it be worth mentioning that fact given the history of the Late Show and Late Late Show franchise? YborCityJohn (talk) 15:36, 15 June 2021 (UTC)