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Just like to point out that there was never a president of MCA named Bruce Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson was the name of the lead singer for Iron Maiden. It is also the name of a pretty obscure sound enginner who produced and remastered Blue Oyster Cult's back catalogue in the late 80's who the writers of Saturday Night Live lifted out of the band's liner notes for the more cowbell sketch. I didn't edit the article, but I doubt The Tragically Hip were discovered by either a sound engineer or the guy from Iron Maiden.
"it was announced" by WHOM? that New Orleans is Sinking wouldn't be played anymore? If this is just a rumor, please don't include it.
How many records/units have they actually sold?
New Songs:
"You See Details" is listed as a "new" song rumoured to appear on the forthcoming album, World Container, but it's from 1992 according to The Tragically Hip Unreleased Songs Information Page. Some lines from "You See Details" were sung in concert in '96... but it's still not really "new", and I can't find a source for its rumoured inclusion on the new album. Jam! lists all the others currently mentioned, but not that one, so I'm taking it out.--Strangepalefighter 06:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Whoever put that the new track wouldn't sound out place on a barenaked ladies album is insulting the Tragically Hip. Also, I don't beleive that's anywhere close to NPOV but I thought I should give a heads up before deleting it. 207.6.121.17 01:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I really, really do not like the wording of the description of In View. A song by the Hip doesn't have just one meaning. The song could just as easily, and even a larger possibility, be about his (Downie's) daughter, who he's wrote about before. I'm going to fix that up. I'm going to remove that Barenaked Ladies comment, as well. --Naga 04:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Who knows? It's a pretty big deal, this song. After the album comes out, or maybe even after Stratford, it can be shortened. I think it should stay like that, at least for now. --Naga 18:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Did you see the little canadian flag in the band box recently added. Funny, but, is it really useful. See also other canadian band as Finger Eleven, Our Lady Peace and in Category:Canadian rock groups
Since when is their motto a tribute to the Hip? This seems like a stretch. Has anyone ever confirmed that it's a tribute? And isn't Tim Buckley American to boot? Chewbacca1010 19:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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The trivia section ends with a history of Christie Pitts Riots of 1933. Anyone know why this is placed here?--68.40.90.204 (talk) 18:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Someone keeps posting an unsourced list of Tragically Hip singles. The problem isn't so much with the list as with the chart positions -- almost all the singles on this unsourced list mysteriously charted in the Canadian top 10. This list is wildly inaccurate, as a visit to the RPM charts site will easily verify. If I see this list posted again, I will remove it without hestiation (unless, of course, you can provide a verifiable source for it.) 172.130.82.241 (talk) 00:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
The summary at the bottom is missing their first album "the tragically hip", probably because it was self-titled. Sorry I don't know how to add it. Canking (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
To 216.221.90.28, be advised that a video you yourself created on youtube is not a valid reference. It seems you haven't added a single bit to any Tragically Hip related article that you haven't completely made up, and as such, I have undone most of your edits. YubYub41
Per WP:N / WP:V / WP:BLP the members of the band who are non-notable save for their participation in The Tragically Hip should be merged to this article. The articles have all be long tagged as needing sources (up to 3+ years) and should not be left as stand alone, unsourced stubs about living people per numerous policies. Active Banana (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else think this could benefit from some organization? It seems to be mostly a random blast of factoids about the hip. Max.inglis (talk) 14:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
The following claim has been challenged and the link to the source is broken. If someone is able to verify the claim, please feel free to return it to the article (Note that we do not place challenged materials within articles under POV section titles such as "Totally Unrelevant Crap") Active Banana (talk) 14:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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per WP:N and WP:MUSIC; stand alone articles about albums and singles need to have third party sourced content other than track and chart placement, and most of the Tragically Hip albums and singles currently and for a long time previously fail to meet the criteria and should be merged into the article about the artist (or perhaps a discography article) until sources have been provided that do meet the notability criteria. Active Banana (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
At the Canadian music project we have a loose rule of thumb for importance levels -- ..."Top important articles" would be the main articles (perhaps 6) this would be. Music of Canada Canadian rock, and so on for the genres ...perhaps the Juno main article and Hall of fame would be top. "High important articles" would people/groups that are part of and Order, be it Canada, Ontario etc.... "Mid important articles" would be for all junos winning albums, artist, songs... "Low important articles" for all the rest, groups bands people, that have not seen any "Canadian Music Industry recognition". So what your proposing to deleted are albums that the project would most likely class as "Mid important"...Moxy (talk) 00:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
The introduction could use a few added details, like a list of 2-3 of their most famous songs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.22.7 (talk) 16:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I would like to call to question the origin of the band's name. The article claims it came from Elephant Parts. I have found a copy of the movie and saw no reference to the supposed scene with the name in it. I was told by my music history professor, who holds various degrees including a doctorate in musicology, that the name comes from a line in This is Spinal Tap where someone mentions an old folks home for retired musicians called the Home for the Tragically Hip. After doing my own research on this, I could not verify either claim. I inquired about this with my professor and he says that Gord Downie told him this way back (but he has never verified himself). I am continuing to look for evidence of the origin but others should look into it as well. The band does not have a good history or biography anywhere. One source (Hip FAQ on HighwayGirl) gives the Elephant Parts explanation and credits Tales from the Hip, Winter 94-95 No.1 as its source. I have been unable to find this document.
Unless this can be verified I think that it needs to be removed or made clear that it is a theory or rumor.Mattkickbox (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
The only reference to The Tragically Hip that I know of is from the Elvis Costello And The Attractions song "Town Crier" off of Imperial Bedroom. The lyric is "Other boys use the splendour of their trembling lip/They're so teddy bear tender and tragically hip." I always assumed this was where the band got their name. 19 July 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.46.177.48 (talk) 03:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
I went to Queen's University in Kingston and graduated in 1979. I remember going to Hip concerts during that period - in what sense did they start in 1983? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.65 (talk) 22:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Gord Downie was only 15 in 1979, I highly doubt you went to Hip concerts back then, unless you had a time machine, I don't think they started doing concerts until the mid 80s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.118.151.182 (talk) 15:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I was one year ahead of Rob Baker and Gord Sinclair at KCVI (I have the yearbooks to prove it) and even jammed with them. I was the MC of the KCVI Variety show in 1979 so I know the two performed as The Rodents. I still have the playbill. Gord Downey did not attend KCVI when I was there but he might have been there when Rob and Gord were in grade 13. Rob and Gord were finished high school in 1981 so the band did not form at KCVI in 1984. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrisgrb (talk • contribs) 19:53, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
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I've created a new page in Esperanto about The Hip:
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tragically_Hip
Can you tell me how to link up this Esperanto page to the 8 languages in which the page is now available? (German, Spanish, French, Italian, Dutch, Russian, Simple English and Swedish.)
Espgreg (talk) 20:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps this billboard article may help.--Moxy 🍁 20:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
I’m just going to state flatly that this article is a terrible shambles of unsourced fan fanaticism. And that’s coming from a rabid TH fan of over 40 years. There are so many unsourced claims made in this “article” to be beyond embarrassing. Somebody needs to fix this because this “article” does utterly NO justice to the memory of Gord Downie. 73.61.18.221 (talk) 05:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)