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How can Russian be a potential world language? The only thing that would suggest that is old Soviet propaganda. Many Russian minorities living in the country barely understand Russian, and its their second language despite living in that country and speaking languages that have less than 100000 speakers usually. YT DomDaBomb20 (talk) 20:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
I still don't see any such sources. I have consequently removed the addition to the article that mentioned this aspect—it seems relevant to me, but it really needs to come from sources on the topic. TompaDompa (talk) 19:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Only if we can find a WP:RELIABLE source which makes this point in connection to an assessment of the Russian language's status as a world language, I'd say. I'll note that while Ammon says
Comparison of the numbers for 2005 with those for 1989 shows that the following languages have risen in economic strength: Chinese and Italian (2 ranks), Portuguese and Spanish (1 rank). Russian has declined (4 ranks), while English, Japanese, German, French, Arabic, and Hindi and Urdu have maintained the same rank. Bengali and Indonesian cannot be judged, the latter being a special case, for which the method of counting speakers seems to have changed in the source. For Chinese, Portuguese, and Spanish, the function of international languages has probably increased, and for Russian it has decreased, in line with the economic rank.(p. 111, section "Economic Strength") andIn recent times, access to virtually all countries world-wide, the political prerequisite of 'globalization,' gave an additional push to the predominance of English, since regions of special protection for other languages were eliminated (for instance eastern Europe for German and Russian).(p. 117, section "The Rise and Stabilization of a Single, World Lingua Franca"), he also notes thatGraddol foresees the growing importance of Chinese, Russian, [...](p. 119, section "The Rise of New and the Continuation of Traditional Subordinate and Bilateral World Languages"). I don't think that is sufficient sourcing. For one thing, the 2005 figures are now just as out of date as the 1989 figures were in 2005. For another, we could only make very weak/heavily qualified statements about this based on this sourcing, and those statements would almost certainly not be WP:DUE. I don't think the statement "Following the end of the Cold War, the Russian language's relative position as a world language declined" would be controversial among scholars, but at present it's not attributable. TompaDompa (talk) 21:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
German is described as a “major language of the world” in its own article. So why not add it here as well? XXE XDXx (talk) 10:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Arabic | Chinese | Dutch | English | French | German | Hindi/Hindustani | Japanese | Latin | Malay/Indonesian | Portuguese | Russian | Spanish | Swahili | |
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Ammon (2010)[1] | Discussed | Leaning no | Not discussed | Yes (predominant) | Leaning yes | Discussed | Leaning no | Discussed | Not discussed | Discussed | Discussed | Discussed | Yes | Not discussed |
Benrabah (2014)[2] | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned | Yes (unique position) | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
de Mejía (2002)[3] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned |
García (2014)[4] | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Intermediate | Yes | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Intermediate | Not mentioned | Yes | Not mentioned |
Lu (2008)[5] | Not mentioned | No | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not discussed | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Yes | Not mentioned |
Mar-Molinero (2004)[6] | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Not discussed | Discussed | Not discussed |
Mazrui (1976)[7] | Regional | Regional/National | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes | Regional | National | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Regional/National | Not mentioned | Regional | Yes | Regional |
Mufwene (2010)[8] | Yes (second-tier) | No (major language) | Not mentioned | Yes (foremost) | Yes | Not mentioned | No (major language) | Not mentioned | Formerly | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes (second-tier) | Not mentioned |
Pei (1968)[9] | Discussed | No | Not mentioned | Discussed | Discussed | Discussed | No | Discussed | Not mentioned | Discussed | Discussed | No | Discussed | Not mentioned |
Wright (2012)[10] | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Yes | Yes | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Not mentioned | Formerly | Not mentioned | Yes | Not mentioned | Yes | Not mentioned |
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How about including this sentence at the very end of the article? >
Some scholars (but only a minority) would also include Portuguese, Chinese, and/or German in their list of world languages.
.... and then adding Benrabah [and perhaps Wright and de Mejia] as sources?
[We did discuss this possibility in May 2021].
--DLMcN (talk) 16:12, 3 January 2024 (UTC)