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Names in infobox

I tried adding a few more people to the artists and composers section of the infobox, which was reverted for making it too long. I understand that, but I do think we should discuss who goes there.

Here is the list as it stands now, with my proposed additions in bold and my proposed cuts in strikethrough:

Artists

Composers

What do you all think? TheHumanIntersect (talk) 15:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For what it’s worth, I definitely think Masatsugu Saito should be on the list considering he is the main character designer for 2 and 3. Tetsuya Nomura, on the other hand, shouldn’t be included as he only designed a handful of characters from 2. He’s just a guest designer. Unsure about Mariam Abounnasr—I’m leaning towards no, but only because she has a minor role in 2 compared to other composers. Personally, I think we should only list people who are credited for multiple games in the series. But at the same time, we should also include people who’ve been credited for two or more Xenoblade games. That being said, I think we should try to strike the right balance between the two, only to avoid making the list too long. For example, Yoko Shimomura and Hiroyuki Sawano should still remain on the list despite being credited for one game each—the reason being that they are the main composers of their game. My two cents. —MomoQca (talk) 16:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

updated sales numbers

Im not too good at editing myself but could someone update the sales numbers on this page and the xenoblade chronicles 3 page. per nintendo's Q4 report, sales are at 1.81 million 192.223.241.26 (talk) 17:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 18:54, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 February 2023

– I feel that, given that Xenoblade Chronicles is not the name in all regions, there's no reason for the series article to be here and not just on Xenoblade. Plus, this would allow for Xenoblade Chronicles to have its disambig removed. If Xenoblade referred to anything else I would of course understand, but there would be no confusion if we just called it Xenoblade (which a lot of people do anyway). - Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 13:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You make a good point. Sergecross73 msg me 13:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As an Eastern reader, I'm personally glad to see that the series article titled Xenoblade, and Xenoblade Chronicles N titled Xenoblade N. (LOL) But as all four games titled Xenoblade Chronicles #, Xenoblade Chronicles, title of the overview article, seems both common and more consistency?--Lopullinen 10:05, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I changed this to a full RM discussion based on my assumption of what the discussion creator was asking for, since that's what this seems to be and people should be notified via the proper channels. If it's incorrect at all, I have no qualms about it being changed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why so people keep citing WP:NATDAB? Look at the actual proposal. Both moves would be moving to titles without any disambiguation added. Sergecross73 msg me 19:10, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mention NATDAB, but it seems to me that the lack of disambiguation in the proposal is part of the problem; looking at the titles "Xenoblade" and "Xenoblade Chronicles", the average reader would have no way of knowing which one covers the game and which the series without visiting the articles. Martin IIIa (talk) 02:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, if they are confused, the confusion is solved by the first sentence. Honestly, I'd argue that this position would want disambig to be added to both - so, for instance, Xenoblade Chronicles (series) and Xenoblade Chronicles (video game), as this would result in less confusion. Because of inconsistency, I think it's often confusing whether a title is a series or a game. If that's an important factor, it sounds like, for consistency, we should make all series articles the default. - Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 03:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Both options are English, so USEENGLISH does not apply. Sergecross73 msg me 14:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Per the guideline, "the title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject that is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources". The fact that they are both English is not relevant to my case. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's kind of my point. You're really just invoking COMMONNAME. It wouldn't make sense to invoke USEENGLISH unless the article was currently at "Zenobureido" or something. Sergecross73 msg me 15:25, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Going off this point, multiple sources in this article use Xenoblade in the title as shorthand (and not just using the Japanese title), and WP:COMMONNAME's reasons to use a more common name do not really apply here. Xenoblade is not a more confusing title, it is a shorter title, it is not less obscure since it's an inherent part of both titles, it is not a less precise title, it has no disambiguation conflict, and it's not a foreign language word that people would be confused by. - Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 15:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Sergecross73 msg me 15:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think that people arguably would be confused, especially if the series article was at "Xenoblade" and the game at "Xenoblade Chronicles", both a possible name for the series and first game. If you choose to open an official RM, both of those articles should be included, as they should logically both be moved to "Xenoblade" and "Xenoblade (video game)". I already gave my opinion though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In that case I fail to see what the proposal would be fixing. It's swapping one disambiguation for another, and making things more confusing by having 2 different names for the series and first game. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also if we're going to be !voting like this maybe User:MsDusa should propose a real WP:RM? ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My bad, I was in a rush at the moment assumed this was for the video game. What I had meant to say was the series article would be Xenoblade while the first game's would be Xenoblade (video game). ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No one proposed Xenoblade (series), so that's an incredibly strange reason to oppose. My proposal is actually the most strong advocation of NATDAB, because it gives us two articles without disambiguation instead of one. - Whadup, it's ya girl, Dusa (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I had written Xenoblade (series) by mistake in my comment but meant Xenoblade, so that might be where some confusion is coming from. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 22:25, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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