Skyrush

• ... that Hersheypark made an advertising campaign with fake Web pages, hidden messages, and foreign languages to promote their new roller coaster Skyrush? Source: https://www.latimes.com/travel/la-xpm-2011-jul-19-la-trb-hersheypark-coasters-07201119-story.html , https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2011/04/hersheypark_uses_website_to_re.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adam Kingsmill

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 16:51, 23 October 2022 (UTC).

• The article is new enough (promoted to GA on October 21). Article meets length and sourcing requirements with no copyright violations or close paraphrasing. The hook is interesting and supported by the source, but the details about "fake Web pages, hidden messages, and foreign languages" are not included in the article - that phrasing is also lifted directly from [1], which isn't ideal. Additionally, it's misleading to call the roller coaster "new" - it opened in 2012 - and with Hersheypark at the front of the hook and Skyrush at the end, it sounds like a hook about Hersheypark rather than Skyrush (the actual DYK topic). I suggest proposing a modified hook.
  This is not really an issue with the DYK rules, but this article was brought to GA status by Epicgenius - the user who nominated it for DYK has not made any edits to the article. As the primary contributor to the article, I think Epicgenius should be notified in case he has any objections to this article running on DYK. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 22:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

  @Spicy: How about Alt1 "... that the roller coaster Skyrush had an advertising campaign that prompted extensive discussion on social media?". Also about notifying Epicgenius, he actually gave me a thanks for creating this nomination so i assume he doesn't mind. Onegreatjoke (talk) 13:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

  I'd be fine with that. To clarify, I told Spicy off-wiki that I did not have any problem with this nomination. I was trying to come up with an alt or two, which is why I didn't respond until now. Epicgenius (talk) 14:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks. To be honest I'm not sure the new hook is all that interesting, but I'll pass this on for a second opinion from another reviewer. Spicy (talk) 17:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

  How about these?

  • ALT2: ... that after the Skyrush roller coaster was completed, it was featured on Good Morning America?
  • ALT3: ... that you can "Ride the Edge" of Skyrush's trains?
  • ALT4: ... that it takes about five hours to inspect Skyrush every morning? Epicgenius (talk) 21:21, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

  For what it's worth, speaking as a non-roller coaster fan, I did find the original hook interesting, probably even moreso than ALTs 2-4 (ALT1 is too vague). However, the original hook might be a tad too long, plus the subject is at the end rather than the start (which I don't think works out in this case). I think it may be better to focus on just the fake Web pages and foreign languages since the hidden messages thing seems less interesting than the other two. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:53, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

  @Narutolovehinata5: Are you formally reviewing this nomination? Sdrqaz (talk) 18:44, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

  No, I was only commenting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

  So Alt0a "... that Skyrush had an advertising campaign with fake web pages and foreign languages to promote it?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

• The article was new enough at time of nomination (DYK nomination on 23 October, having passed GAN on 21 October and has not appeared on the Main Page) and is long enough (8517 characters of readable prose and is not a stub). I am approving ALT0a, ALT3, and ALT4. These three are mentioned in the article and are interesting to a broad audience, though there are citation issues for ALT0a and ALT3; see below. ALT0 is inferior to ALT0a for the reasons already stated; ALT1 is a little too subjective and is not as interesting for me, given that many things nowadays get "extensive discussion on social media"; ALT2 isn't as interesting to a broad audience given it requires knowledge of Good Morning America and it isn't implausible that a rollercoaster would be covered. A quid pro quo was done. With regards to core content policies such as copyright and BLP, I could not detect any copyright violations or BLP violations. However, there are significant verifiability issues with the article. I'll go through them as the article flows:
  • Lead: There is no citation for "second tallest and second fastest roller coaster at Hersheypark" in the lead, nor is that statement mentioned elsewhere in the article.
  • 20 miles per hour (32 km/h) in the lead is inconsistent with 26 feet per second (480 m/min) in the "Characteristics" section, by 3.2 kilometres per hour (2.0 mph).
  • There is no citation for the fact that Skyrush wasn't listed in 2016 and 2020 in the "Awards" section.
  • History: "Intamin convinced Hersheypark officials" is not supported by the citation; the source makes it seem like Intamin had the choice of two locations and made a decision.
  • "Project 2012" is mentioned multiple times (including in the lead), but is not mentioned in the sources. The phrase used in the sources was "Attraction 2012".
  • "'fake Web pages, hidden messages, foreign languages and symbolism'" is not in that source; please see the DYK nomination above for the correct one.
  • "pieces of steel track" (emphasis mine) seems to be original research, given that the source does not mention track.
  • The trademark application is not mentioned to have been in July 2011.
  • For "officially announced on August 1, 2011", the source uses "Tuesday", which should be 2 August 2011.
  • Characteristics: "The first drop is 212 feet (65 m) tall" is not in the source. It seems like the 65m figure was used in sources prior to it opening, but not since. Given that the height of the rollercoaster is 61m, having a 65m drop would mean some underground sections. Not necessarily implausible, but a bit of a red flag.
  • The citation for the lift does not support the fact that it is a cable lift. I believe that the ABC source does, so please move it.
  • Skyrush being the first Wing Coaster isn't supported by the Intamin source. I suppose you could put the sources at the end of "History" to support it, but the use of those sources already feel close to inappropriate synthesis of sources.
  • The idea that it has two trains is not supported by the source cited. The Word document you've used elsewhere seems to do so, but it's not very clear if it is 32 seats each or in total.
  • No source for how the outer seats "inspired Skyrush's tagline".
  • "especially during the ride's airtime moments" is not in the citation.
  • Ride experience: "Immediately after leaving the station" is not in the citation. It seems to be in the "Steep thrills" source, though.
  • I will accept the description of the video in good faith, assuming that it is an accurate retelling.
  • Awards: The 2012 Best New Ride 5th place was tied.
  • The 2017 one was not tied.
• I expect that quite a few of these issues are due to misplaced citations. But the sheer volume of issues is highly concerning, especially since this was created and reviewed by two editors who are highly experienced with audited content (Epicgenius and Lee Vilenski). I hope that this was a one-off issue, and not one that is systemic – perhaps it was due to the review taking place in the final of the WikiCup. As this article "requires considerable work before becoming eligible", I am marking the nomination with . The nomination is liable to rejection if the problems are not rectified soon. Sdrqaz (talk) 04:59, 9 November 2022 (UTC)