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"Persian-speaking Tajiks make up the largest percentage of the population of the province, followed by Pashtuns, Hazaras, Uzbeks,"
Can you provide us a reference? If no, than please stop spreading false information.(Ketabtoon (talk) 01:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC))
I`m so glad to meet u in en.wiki. I`m in wait for u, if u need any help. be happy.--Gordafarid 08:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
In fact, if looks like the AfD tag was removed by an IP on August 2, but it was only off the article for seven minutes before the change was reverted. There was low participation in the AfD, so a single vote to keep would have precluded consensus. If you like, I can undelete the article and relist it on AfD in order to get more comments. Cool Hand Luke 01:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I am one of the descendants of Seghatoleslam, and I am wondering if you knew anything about him since you corrected the article. I was born in America and i'm searching for info. Azhura (talk) 12:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The full name is Makhdoom Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani (Urdu: مخدوم سيد يوسف رضا گیلانى ). You can also check Makhdoom page. Please stop deleting his full name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.237.172 (talk) 21:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Could you please tell me what source you were using when you decided to move Kofarnihon River to Kofirnihon River on May 14? It would be helpful if in the future you could substantiate such moves on the talk page of the corresponding articles. Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 17:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Please see new comment I have put today on Talk:Lenin Peak. --Zlerman (talk) 02:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Dear Alefbe: you have made a number of systematic changes in the name of Zeravshan River based on Tajik-language sources and conventions. But Zeravshan is also a river in Uzbekistan, where (I think) it is much longer than in Tajikistan and where its name is not spelled Зарафшон. This fact needs to be reflected in the naming conventions you use and in the article itself. Please let me know what you think. --Zlerman (talk) 04:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
All over the Internet the meaning of the Persian name of "our" river Zarafshan is given as "sprayer of gold" or "spreader of gold". I have a suspicion that all these Internet sources have simply copied the translation from Wikipedia and I would like to enlist your knowledge of the Persian language in order to refine the English translation. When I look in Francis Joseph Steingass' A Comprehensive Persian-English Dictionary on line and copy into the search window the Persian words from the lead sentence in Zeravshan River, I get the transliteration "zar-afshan" (perfect!) and the translation "scattering gold". When I look under "afshan" on its own, I get "dispersing, scattering, diffusing". Now, scattering and dispersing is not really spraying, is it? The Russian translation for "Zeravshan" in ru:wiki actually says "pulverizing gold" -- i.e., making gold dust. This Russian translation sits well with the attribution of the Persian name to the presence of gold sands in the river's upper reaches in the English article. Can you please review the translation of the Persian phrase zar-afshan and tell me what you think it actually means. Sprayer, scatterer, disperser, pulverizer, maker of gold dust? I apologize for the imposition, but I would like to clean this up in the interest of posterity... Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 16:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It is very immature to hunt for edits by other users and revert them. Discuss the objections first. And do not make changes to a subject if it is outside of your scope. -- DJ1AM (talk) 20:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Elonka 16:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Done. Please keep in mind that there appears to also be an article about Judeo-Shirazi. I'm not sure if it's the same thing (if so, it can be redirected). If not, maybe "Judæo-Shirazi" is a better spelling in order to conform with the new title. As for Template:Persian languages, feel free to move it back if you want. I would personally try to discuss it with Francis Tyers first though. Khoikhoi 07:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
yeah, I do. ;) -- Fullstop (talk) 20:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't move pages to new names using non-standard characters. You moved Abu Hanifa an-Nu'man to Abū Ḥanīfa... please move it to Abu Hanifa instead, as non-standard characters are not employable in Wikipedia article names.
We should keep the forms in the pages. However, people cannot type "ḥ" and "ū", so it is against Wikipedia policy to use them. Ogress smash! 02:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Alefbe, I find it, to put it mildly, very odd that you come along and remove a whole body of external links by pretending that they were unrelated to the entry. I have just checked, and it seems that you have a history of deleting the things that seem not to be to your personal liking. This page shows one of your predilections. If you are here for political reasons, you are in the wrong place and you will be better off to leave for whence you come. --BF 22:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC).
The edit warring between you and the other user over the external links in Persian Gulf needs to stop, and pronto. Use the discussion page to express your concerns and seek a consensus. You are well on your way to your 3RR limit, and it is in your best interest to realize that you are not going to overpower the other editor with the sheer volume of your reverts. Discussion, and not being obstinate, is going to achieve a lasting edit. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 06:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I don't understand why you keep addding the phrase "American" to the pronunciation guide. It is the single most common pronunciation in the English-speaking world, certainly not limited to Amercians only, and your addition is misleading and incorrect. Unless you can provide information showing that Brits and Aussies use a radically different pronunciation (and I assure you, they don't), it's perfectly fine as-is. Thanks for your consideration. Doc Tropics 17:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, please avoid edit warring, a look at your contributions show several reverts recently on various pages. Keep in mind that the three-revert rule does not entitle you to three reverts. Instead, try to achieve a consensus on the relevant talk pages instead. Xashaiar has been warned for civility, but you need to do your part and avoid edit warring, as both are blockable offenses. Thanks, Khoikhoi 05:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Check it out. Thanks Azalea pomp (talk) 04:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I have a linguistics knowledge of Persian. ;) I by no means can converse in Persian. Azalea pomp (talk) 08:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the Borujerdi blog. Am I hearing a front rounded vowels in this dialect like [y] and maybe [œ]? Azalea pomp (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you meant. The Izady map found at Columbia lists the Mira source as the primary source: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/Iran_Languages_lg.jpg
It is not accurate as you have stated. For example, Dezful and Shushtar speak Persian dialects. The Semnani dialects are not included. I can look at the Mira source within the next few days. Azalea pomp (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
On the Iranian languages talk page I included my findings on the Western Iranian branch. Azalea pomp (talk) 02:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I think "Tajiks of China" makes the most sense. They only live in Xinjiang, but I think it is best to identify them according to country, rather than province. To call them "Pamiris" is completely new to me. In Chinese language literature, they are exclusively called Tajiks, and their self-identification would probably be either Tajik or a linguistic identifier, i.e. Wakhi or Sarikoli. The term Pamiri is a term that appeared during the Soviet era and as far as I know has no usage in China and probably not in Afghanistan either, even though in Afghanistan there exists the same groups that in Tajikistan are called Pamiris.
Hi
I've read WP:AMOS, in particular, this:
All Arabic articles should have a lead paragraph which includes the article title, along with the original Arabic script and the strict transliteration in parenthesis, preferably in the lead sentence.
In this case, the article title is Badakhshan, which is the name by which the region is normally known in English texts, not Badakhshān. Mhockey (talk) 19:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Likewise, if a strict transliteration appears overly repetitious, it should be in place of the page title in the lead paragraph.
I don't think the guidance should only apply when the title and strict transliteration are quite different - that's not what WP:AMOS says. Maybe the difference of view comes down to this: you regard "Badakhshan" as only a loose transliteration, whereas I see it as the normal name in English. I do not think my version is "overly repetitious". It's hardly a long title, such as the example after the passage you quote. The problem with using the strict transliteration as the first word in the lead is that it could give the impression to some readers that Badakhshān is the "correct" form to use in normal English usage, and that would certainly be misleading. Would you suggest starting the Tehran article with Tehrān.....? Mhockey (talk) 20:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's an issue of transliteration. It's the issue of whether the lead should start with the article title (which is the usual name in English, where there is one), or a transliteration of the local name. I don't think many editors would agree with you on Tehran, but let's see. I'll put a comment on that article's talk page. Mhockey (talk) 22:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Please explain - I took a look at a number of these changes (and dozens more for ArabDIN) and I didn't see a problem. Is this a matter of different rendering engines for web browsers or something? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The map showing the extent of the Durrani Empire (Afgempdur.jpg) doesn’t seem to be appropriate. Firstly, the map is not in English, which makes it difficult to understand it. Such a map has very high chances of misleading the readers instead of guiding them. Also, the map doesn’t tell the actual year(time) of the maximum extent of Durrani Empire.
Secondly, the limits of the influence of the Afghan Empire(vassal states) is shown covering Rajputana(Although Rajputs were unfriendly towards Marathas, Rajputana wasn't in any way a vassal of the Durrani empire), part of present day Maharashtra and even Malwa- the stronghold of Holkars & Gwalior- the stronghold of Scindias(Holkars and Shindes were potent forces even after the Maratha defeat at Panipat). Even though the Marathas had lost the battle of Panipat, there wasn’t any chance that anyone (including Abdali) could come even near present day Maharashtra. After the battle, Abdali quickly retired to Afghanistan and the Sikhs had emerged a potent force in Punjab. Although he attacked Punjab twice after 1761, he didn't make any decisive gains and didn't come south of Punjab. This map doesn’t seem to be made by an expert and I also have doubts over the western extent of the empire. It is extremely inaccurate and is misguiding the users. It seems to be highly biased, violating Wikipedia’s NPOV policy and seems to be made by an Abdali follower. This map needs to be removed from Durrani Empire and Afghanistan. Kindly go through this. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I realize that since I didn't change them all to the language (quite a few went to Pahlavi Dynasty). But to me the ones I did change seemed to fit that description. The link on the disam page does state that it refers to the language and the speakers of the language. I don't do disamming without thought, trust me. I can be wrong but it doesn't mean I wasn't careful. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 10:23, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
There was sufficient suspicion in the eyes of the checkusers and clerks to run a check; at the time, that Self-Image was a sock of NisarKand was not determined either. While at times it is unfortunate that innocent people get caught up in checks, that is part of the process. Checkusers, when asked and when evidence is indicative, need to identify socks and innocents. As you can see from the report, there was sockpuppetry going on; thankfully not you. Of course, had we known that you were innocent before the run we would not have run it, and I apologize for causing you any distress, but the run at the time was justified. If only there were no issues with sockpuppetry and we could obviate the need for checkuser runs completely, we'd all be better off. So, I apologize for the unneeded distress, but at that time, with the information we had, I believe the run was justified. -- Avi (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to propose a voluntary moratorium on commenting on others people's !votes in bilateral relations AfDs. At this point, I don't think there's anything to be gained from such comments--obviously no one is convincing anyone--meanwhile, the acrimony rises and uninvolved editors are discouraged from weighing in. See this masterpiece for a prime example. So how about we just don't comment on each others' votes? This moratorium would not cover general comments, i.e. those which aren't indented under and/or in response to a specific !vote (e.g. [2]), but these should be kept to an absolute minimum. I intend invite all of the "usual suspects" to join this moratorium. I've missed someone, please invite them. Please discuss, and ideally note whether you intend to abide by this here. Thanks. Yilloslime TC 17:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry, but in English the name of the river is "Shah River". See:
for examples. --Bejnar (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Before you go changing Iranian names to non-English versions, please obtain some discussion from others, not me, at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names). Thanks. --Bejnar (talk) 20:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Some of the edit reverts that you have made are problematic. They address general events and occurrences relating to those arrested after the election and not necessarily to events inside Kahrizak. These are more relevant in a post-election aftermath wiki entry than here. The point of the edits made to your contribution was to make sure that what you had written was relevant to Kahrizak itself. Please go back and take a look at the entry before you changed it and see if you don't agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.121.195 (talk) 16:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
The edit summary you gave for the removal of the PROD tag did not explain anything. I had proposed it for deletion according to the policy of WP:DICT. The article says nothing about the actual bagpipes than it does about the word. Therefore, the information should be transferred to Wikitionary, and the article should be deleted. Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 02:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Would you like to tell me, why you have reverted my edits? Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 03:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)
Alefbe, I came in to this discussion at the request of the other user, and consequently investigated the topic a little. I've made some comments on my talk page, which might be useful in further development of the article; the reply was directed at Warrior4321, but I thought that you might be interested.
In the interests of not splitting conversations over multiple pages, however, I suggest that further discussion takes place on Talk:Habban.
My comments are in User talk:Chzz#Template Removal.
Cheers, Chzz ► 19:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Could you please also take a look at Talk:Amir Kror Suri? Thank you. Tajik (talk) 21:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip, I'll use that as my source from now on. Andyo2000 (talk) 20:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
User:ketabtoon keeps removing Persian from this article [7] and adds Pashto while the term Nimrooz has no meaning in the Pashto language and this word comes from the Persian language.--Inuit18 (talk) 21:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
some months of 1385 are in 2007, so it could be census of 2007, which month of 1385 was that census?
Bold, Revert, Discuss. Once you blanked the page, you are not supposed to put it back. You and Folantin are participating in an edit war. You cannot blank a page because you think it "sucks". That is edit warring and vandalism. I suggest you stop now and restore it before this goes to ANI. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
"I am amused that many users who haven't been previously involved in any Iran-related page (or any page related to the history of Middle East and Central Asia) all of a sudden have become interested in this topic."
Yes, it's odd. The page has been marked for clean-up since March but as soon as editors with some knowledge of the subject try to do something about the situation, the page gets fully protected in the "crappy old version". At least part of the explanation may lie here (look at the names in Pool A). Wikipedia is becoming a social networking site rather than an encyclopaedia. --Folantin (talk) 07:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Persian Empire. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
The article is not about the word Aryan. It is about the concept Aryan. That includes the history of the word and also the ideas and the motifs that have become attached to it. The swastika became the central symbol associated with the Aryan concept, and there are innumerable sources for that, dating back to Burnouf, Muller etc in the 19th cventury, Wilson in the early 20th and so on. Denying that is just pointless. Paul B (talk) 10:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
[9] Ottava Rima (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and I forgot to point out internal stylistic logic as an argumen. Look at how "Tajik" is used throughout the article itself, that neither "Tajik Persian" nor "Tajiki" have "language" attached and consider that the following sentence is a very obvious tautology: "The Tajik language is a modern variety of the Persian language."
Peter Isotalo 06:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Please start a requested move discussion, the name had included "International" since Feb 2008, so if you wish to change the name and it has been reverted you should then open up a requested move discussion, not just keep moving it. nableezy - 19:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
((unblock|Your reason here))
below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 21:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Alefbe (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Please include the original unblock request.
Decline reason:
My response is very similar to that I gave to Paradoxic: You were still edit warring. Please use the time blocked to read up on edit warring and dispute resolution, and remember to discuss changes–in a wider forum if necessary–if you can't reach a consensus between you. PeterSymonds (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the ((unblock)) template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Reason for Unblock: User:Paradoxic had violated 3RR yesterday and I reported him. User:Rjanag first said that it's not clear whether there was really 4 reverts or not. When I showed him again and I pointed to the continuation of Paradoxic's revert, Rjanag said that 3RR is just a guideline and Paradoxic's edits are not vandalism. Then I reminded him again that 3RR is not about vandalism and he should enforce it no matter if Paradoxic's edits are vandalism or not. Rjanag talked again about his own standards [10] and I told him that his approach is really against the 3RR policy and if he thinks intervention is not needed, he should ask comments from other admins. Then he blocked me. So, the only thing that changed Rjanag's opinion (from non-inrevention to blocking me) was my last edit about asking opinion of other admins. Alefbe (talk) 21:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi; About you changes in pages containg Azerbaijan: First of all I had changed the pages after very first discussions in Tabriz discussion page when Alborz accepting my opinion. After initiating of further discussions by Alborz the procedure stoped. However for right now you may notice nutral opinion as well! Thank you.--Microinjection (talk) 12:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The name Komur comes from the map, NJ 38-7 Tabriz, Iran; Azerbaijan; Armenia Iran, Series 1501, Joint Operations Graphic (Air) 1:250,000, U.S. National Imagery and Mapping Agency. It enters the Aji Chay just north of Tabriz, and just before the Sian Chay enters the Aji Chay. It is also listed in the Geonames database here. --Bejnar (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
[12] Ottava Rima (talk) 03:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
In addition to refusing to participate in discussion about the name, you've gone and started doing massive reverts across a bunch of articles. Again, I am willing to have a discussion, but it's really inappropriate of you to just ignore the discussion and then go start edit warring somewhere else. I'll unblock you once you assure me that you're not going to do a revert-war across 80 articles while a discussion is ongoing. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 22:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Dear Alefbe, The first Iranian state in the territroy of contemporary Iran was indeed the Median empire. Their empire was indeed much more important that the lemaite, which was in fact a local kingdom. Medians united Iranian tribes and natives living there. they were a major player in the region too. Achamenidian empire had an Iranian core but in fact was a multinational empire, while the Median empire was truely Iranian. Please do not remove the Median empire from the box. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I think you should read closely this press article [13]. Yes, Russian is not co-official anymore but the bill says nothing about its status as a "language for interethnic communication". Moreover, this status is granted by the constitution. So, President would have to change the constitution to really "get rid" of Russian ... and he hasn't done it yet. I think we should be careful and not making changes without consulting. I'm putting my edit back and I think it would be very polite from you to let me know before reverting it again.Mitch1981 (talk) 19:14, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I read it but my source contradicts yours. Plus, I studied law and I know that, theorically, you can't just change the Constitution with a law. You need to reform the constitution itself because it is superior to the law. Maybe things are different in Central Asia but I'm not so sure.
So before starting a pathetic "edit war", I think we should let the infobox as it was before 2009-10-07 and look for the original document. If you read Persian tajik, it will be probably easy (Personnaly, I don't). If you don't let's try to find it in Russian (which would be quite ironical), and put into Google translator, unless you speak the language already ... of courseMitch1981 (talk) 19:42, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
"Дар тарҳи нав забони русӣ ҳамчун забони муоширати байни миллатҳо зикр нашудааст ва Шодӣ Шабдолов, раиси Ҳизби коммунистӣ аз ин норозигӣ кард."
Translation: "In the new law, the Russian language has not mentioned as the "inter-ethnic language" and Shodi Shabdolov, chairman the communist party, expressed his disappointment."
I got your point but the Constitution still states that Russian is the language for interethnic communication (article 2 : Русский язык является языком межнационального общения). You can find the text of the Constitution on the official website of the president ([2]). And again a constitution is the "fundamental law" of the country, so it is superior to any ordinary law.
I think you should check this website : http://www.pagef30.com/2009/10/8-october-2009-tajik-now-only-official.html#comment-form. Apparently, the law doesn't specifically mention that Russian is being dropped, but that's the effect of the bill which will now mean that government documents will only be in Tajik. OK it's the same thing ... but officially, Russian is still the language for interethnic communication.Mitch1981 (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, I think it's better to wait.
By the way, since you seem to be Tajik could you tell me more about the whole business ? Why does President Rahmon want to drop Russian language so much ? As far as I know, Russia is becoming a big power again (though not as big as it used to be). So, what's the point of taking distances with such a powerful ally ? Plus, many Tajiks emigrate to Russia in search of better economic opportunities and send money back to the country, don't they ? If they lack proficiency in Russian, won't it be a problem ?Mitch1981 (talk) 17:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I mentioned you and referenced your Wikipedia posts in a recently-filed request for arbitration, and I therefore thought it appropriate to notify you of the fact. The request is Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Rjanag.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Afghan_tribes has been emptied of content. Suddenly there are no tribes in Afghanistan. Only a few days ago they existed. What happened? Did the tribes of Afghanistan travel to another country? True, the tribes are also part of the ethnic groups but they have not stopped being tribes!
Perhaps they never existed? Countrystudies (http://countrystudies.us/afghanistan/54.htm) must be in error as it considers tribes? Same for Illinois Institute of Technology (http://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/afghanistan/EthnicityAndTribe.html) and the Council on Foreign Relations (http://www.cfr.org/publication/17686). What about the BHARAT RAKSHAK MONITOR (http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE6-4/singh.html)? We must tell Harper's Magazine and the CIA (http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/05/hbc-90005046) that there are no tribes in Afghanistan before it is too late.
Let know your thoughts on this matter. id447@yahoo.com
Id447 (talk) 23:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
When I first read about the tribes of Afghanistan, I was unsure of who was being referred to. I went to Wikipedia to understand who they were and their impact on the NATO occupation of Afghanistan. Perhaps this current issue is too important a subject for Wikipedia to illuminate?
From Wikipedia:Dispute resolution Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution Bold added by id447
Focus on content
The most important first step is to focus on content, and not on editors. Wikipedia is built upon the principle of collaboration and assuming that the efforts of others are in good faith is important to any community.
When you find a passage in an article that you find is biased or inaccurate, improve it if you can. If that is not easily possible, and you disagree with a point of view expressed in an article, don't just delete it. Rather, balance it with what you think is neutral. Note that unreferenced text may be tagged or removed because of our policy on Verifiability.
Always explain your changes in the edit summary to help other editors understand the reasoning behind them. If an edit is potentially contentious, explain why you made the change and how it improves the article. If your reasoning is complex, add a section to the talk page of the article to explain it and refer to that section in the edit summary. If your edit gets reverted, you can discuss the reversion with other editors on the talk page.
In summary: Don't take others' actions personally. Explain to them what you're doing, and always be prepared to change your mind.
Id447 (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Let's look at the choices! Option 1: If you can convince me with facts that there are no tribes in Afghanistan, then we are in agreement and those facts can be added to a page in Wikipedia.
Option 2: We are unable to agree if there are tribes in Afghanistan. You show that there are no tribes in Afghanistan and I show that there is and both arguments are included in a page covering the controversy. Neither of us delete the others statements on this matter.
Option 3: You agree that there are tribes in Afghanistan such as Pashtun, Uzbek, Turkmen, Aimaq, Baluch tribes and will not delete such entries. Of course these tribes are not only in Afghanistan. Tribes are also ethnic groups but a group organized as a tribe should be more organized than a non-tribal ethnic group. See http://countrystudies.us/afghanistan/index.htm for documentation.
As editors, we should expose the reader to facts even if they are contradictory. There are various ways to expose the reader to the facts we have found. Categories, list, or editing or creating a new page are all available.
Id447 (talk) 04:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Please enlighten me as to why Turkmen people can not be considered tribal.
Id447 (talk) 15:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
A Request for Comments has been opened concerning the conduct of Rjanag. This follows the suggestion of a number of arbitrators at the Rjanag RfA. I am contacting you because you are mentioned in this RfC and the prior RfA, and discussed Rjanag's conduct with him directly and at an AN/I.
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Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 10:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
One more time. Your link have not any word about soviet war. Probably those refugee populations are a result of another war?--Skrod (talk) 23:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Alefbe. Why don't you discuss your ideas in the talk/discussion pages before reverting? Best, E104421 (talk) 02:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed the edit war on the page Indo-Iranian and I left a comment on SorenShadow's talk page asking him to stop and explaining briefly what the term Indo-Iranian implies and why saying Indian and Iranian is wrong.Kalifo (talk) 00:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Alefbe, if you have the time for, you might like to have a look into Ulugh Beg Observatory, where a totally wrong impression is given of the role of Jamshid Kashani in the building and running of the Observatory. In fact, were it not for the accurate calculation of sine of 1 degree by Kashani, Ulugh Beg would not be able to compile the Zij named after, which he did after the death of Kashani. I have as yet to extend the biography of Kashani with the technical details underlying his calculation of sine of 1 degree accurate to 17 decimal digits (I have already sorted out the technical details, only need to write the piece in a way that suits the readership of Wikipedia). Have you seen this entry, by the way? With kind regards, --BF 21:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC).
Hi, I might be on a long break soon.. please keep an eye on the article. thank you.--Nepaheshgar (talk) 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Can you keep an eye on this: List of languages by number of native speakers. I have added some sourced information. --Np4 (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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I award you this Barnstar for your excellent contributions to Iran related topics and also fighting off vandalism. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 21:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC) |
Can you keep an eye on this: List of languages by number of native speakers. I have added some sourced information. --Np4 (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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Pls put this userbox in your user page if you support Green Movement of Iran and send it to your friends in Wiki.
Hi Alefbe: Subject says all.
PS: Do you think it is appropriate to adevertise "Islamic Democracy"/"Green Movement" on Wikipedia?
Thanks--Mehrshad123 (talk) 06:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi can you r.v. this vandals work [15] --66.92.168.124 (talk) 17:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC) He has vandalized Nezami, Khaqani, Shabistari, Qatran Tabrizi and some other Iran related articles.
Report this [16] and this [17] to Moreschi. --66.92.168.124 (talk) 17:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I fixed everything but cannot edit Nezami Ganjavi.. would appreciate your help in r.v. the vandal.--66.92.168.124 (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
As i seen in this page, You have a long history of dispute and edit war, You can also remove this page, like your other older usernames, But i just left you a message to "stop pushing nonsense materials in the pages or even deleting sourced information", like you who remind this to anyone else --Parthava (talk) 06:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I beg to disagree. Placing the article under Zāyandé-Rūd is not helpful as that name is not used in English. The most common English name for the river is Zayandeh. --Bejnar (talk) 19:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
we shouldnt use wrong references even if it is from a university os somewhere. look at to west azerbaijan .it shows it is totally kurs' land, so where is the turks? i dont wandalize the map I show the right one! متعصبانه به مردم مارک وندالیزم نزنید!، خودتان هم می دانید که این نقشه درست و بیطرفانه است اگر اندک مطالعه ای داشته باشید در این زمینه. به نظر شما کدام قسمت از این نقشه غلط یا مغرضانه است؟ بگوئید تا بلافاصله اصلاح کنم. Pournick (talk) 22:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
You might like to have a look here. --BF 23:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
According to description and source of image's page, it is persia2099's own work! I couldnt find anything about uni of Texas! the map is his/her own work without reliable refrences! also it has a plain differences (especially in part of West Azerbaijan!) from The image of CIA which he had put below of his own created referenceless! image. یکبار دیکر میگویم اگر قسمتی از نقشه به نظر شما غلط است بگوئید تا اصلاح کنم من قصد گرفتن زمینهای پدری هیچ قومیتی را ندارم حتی روی یه تیکه نقشه! That map was made up as well! Regards, Pournick (talk) 23:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I had a look to the web page you've sent it to me. look at [18] or [19] or[20] and[21]. In some of them Urmia and other Turk cities belong to Turkish area, in some other same cities! belong to kurdish area! all are published by uni of Texas, shows that they themselves dont know anything about the demography of Azerbaijan and Iran. so these maps are not reliable. but I'll try to correct some mistakes of my map according to this one [22] which looks more reliable and detailed than others. Regards, Pournick (talk) 23:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi can you take care off the issue...you can put Iranian peoples instead of Persian if there is a fuss. However the user is simply distorting sources. Thanks. I don't have time to deal with such users right now--Hichimichi (talk) 20:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Alefbe, why are you deleting the name of tehran in different languages of Iran. I do not think that France is a good example. That country similar to Turkey has traditionally a fascistic approach to its native languages. You can see multilingualism in many countriy's banknote's for example and that's not a bad thing. And may I know what is your fixation with Iranian pages. I am Iranian and it is natural for me to be interested in that, but as I know you are froma country very hostile to Iran and the Iranian nation. You can get accused pursuing an agenda.If I may give you an advise, Please.....!--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Can you please take a look at the recent edits done by Ahmad Shahi. Most of his sources are books written in the 19th century.[23]--Inuit18 (talk) 09:34, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Could you Please look here: [24]. I have done the argumentation.. he can't add a khabargozaari without any methodology to the article. These might also be good for English wikipedia if you feel free to add them.. --RustamDastani (talk) 18:06, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, what's the benefit of moving the main name of the article to a diacritic-marked version? Only the smallest minority of printed materials add the diacritics in the Latin-script rendering of these names, and I really don't see the benefit of making the article title the diacritic version. Does that imply that it somehow reduces confusion? Is someone going to say "oh, Surkh-Rōd, this Surkh-Rod was really throwing me without the line."
I'd submit that diacritics, unless totally necessary, cause more confusion than they solve, for the dubious benefit of being "correct". I wouldn't mind seeing every diacritic-marked title rendered into its most-common English spelling. Thoughts? Stability Information East 2 (talk) 06:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I think you should check this out [26] that even Mani1 who put this refrence said that although it is from ministry of interior but it is just a copyright of the pages of fa.wikipedia and no longer is reliable and even removed in here [27].
if you search other cities like maku and Khoy in here you see even in those cities was said that major language are persian. (see this and this). this informations are definitely wrong. and my refrence is from Iran chamber society and is not a nameless website. with regard Bahramm 2 (talk) 17:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
مردم کُرد در تعريف امروزي از اقوام ايرانيتبار هستند و بسياري از کردها خود را يکي از نوادگان مادها ناميدهاند.که اين نظريه از سوي زبانشناسان و بر پايه شواهد دقيق زبانشناختي رد شدهاست.شواهد زبانشناسي نشان ميدهد که اسلاف مردماني که بعداً خود را کرد ناميدند در مناطقي جنوبيتر از مادها سکونت داشتند.
that was defenitly a copyright of preview edits of this page in fa.wikipedia. so we shouldn't use this copy-vio websites even if it was from interior ministery. for now my source is more reliable but when you put that study about the languages source you can change the information. i'm no going to change the page until we reach to a result.thanks Bahramm 2 (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Kurdish dialects redirects to itself. Where are you going with it? Woogee (talk) 04:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
You dont discuss before deleting referenced content
further you refuse to participate in discussion by providing cogent responses , except stating your own will
you are also co-ordinating with other like minded users like innuit and scythian1 to delete
Instead of edit warring
and removing massive quantums of content from , so many articles
why dont you participate reasonably
Intothefire (talk) 11:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
On the Tabaristan article, you have reverted the edits by Parthava several times, and it has become frequent in the last days. I have protected the article at its last revision for one week, and I ask that you discuss the disagreement on the article's talkpage. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Standard practice is to just indent one more with each new comment, despite what WP:INDENT says. That's a crap essay no one follows. There's actually no guideline about indentation so you can just do whatever you want. It is, however, bad practice to keep changing someone else's indentation after they made clear they don't want that.--Atlan (talk) 09:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
You must provide acceptable reasons for any reversion you make in Wikipedia, otherwise you are breaching basic regulations. Any edition that is supported by the none-blocked citations should not be reverted. Remember that information about the History of Iran are constantly updated and this will naturally ensue Wiki editions. Thank you.Armaiti (talk) 19:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand why you made Irani into a disambiguation page. Other than the city in Brazil, Irani does not refer to people of Iran or Iranian people, no? Thanks -- warrior4321 04:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
To respond to your old question: i am not sure it is better to use GDP at constant US dollar prices. The reason is simple: Exchange rates reflect inflation and purchasing power changes.
I have reported User:Ahmed shahi on the WP:ANI. In that discussion, he mentioned your name and accused you of POV pushing. I think you should be notified about this. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Ahmed_shahi. Tajik (talk) 16:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
لطفا مواظب شاعرهای مشهور پارسی باشید مانند مولانا/نظامی.. من چند روزی رفتم تعطیلی سپاسگزارم —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pahlavannariman (talk • contribs) 11:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
فیتیله زبان را پایین کشیدمی تا با محرمان سخن گفتمی.اگر دوست دارد میشود برای مدیریت در ویکیپدیای فارسی نامزد شوید؟به شدت به مدیر نیازمندیمAmir (talk) 17:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. You appear to be involved in an edit war on Islamic conquest of Afghanistan . While the three-revert rule is hard and fast, please be aware that you can be blocked for edit warring without making 3 reverts to an article in 24 hours. You are not entitled to 3 reverts and are expected to cooperatively engage other editors on talk pages rather than reverting their edits. Note that posting your thoughts on the talk page alone is not a license to continue reverting. You must reach consensus. Continued edit warring may cause you to be blocked. Toddst1 (talk) 20:42, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, I see you contributed to the article on Nozar Azadi which is under threat of deletion for lack of citations. Would you be able to find some Persian-language citations (newspapers, books, magazine articles) ABOUT Nozar Azadi to list in the article? It is clear that Azadi is well-known but we currently do not have written evidence to prove it. It would be great if you could help! Thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:43, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi you undid my edits in several article [28] [29] [30] [31], and i don't know why?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 06:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
We use the common English name; the common English name has no diacritics. There is massive consensus on this, see WP:PLACE. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
I changed the redirect to Dari language (Zoroastrian). Also, it's probably not a good idea to leave discussions stranded on rd talk pages, so I'll move it to the same article. At least, I think this is probably the best place for it. Please let me know if you think otherwise.
Also, you might want to review Parsi (disambiguation) and Western Iranian languages. — kwami (talk) 03:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Can you look at the article please? These people do not understand weight...--96.255.251.165 (talk) 06:23, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Are you reverting these pages on the order of another editor? You failed to explain why you're removing my edits. Can you explain what is the problem with the edits that I made to these?--Nasir Ghobar (talk) 20:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Seems to be two articles that get vandlized..can you keep an eye?--96.255.251.165 (talk) 02:20, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for looking out for vandalisms in various webpages..you might want to see [[35]] and here:[36][37]..incase of future vandalisms..--108.18.145.11 (talk) 03:06, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Many years ago you moved an article and I'm thinking it should be moved back. Please comment at Talk:Sattareh Farmanfarmaian#Proposed move to Sattareh Farman Farmaian. Thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 06:37, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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