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Dear Lady, still here, been busy, ducking and a diving, wheeling n dealing, bit o this, bit o that (well family, garden, holiday, big pile of books to read, lost broadband connection and general everyday things to do {4 hours ironing, last night [and yes beille that included t-shirts] amazing the amount of clothes 3 kids can go thru, thinking of buying disposable overalls like wot the SOCO's wear at crime scenes}) hope all is well with you, and excuse my nose, but have you sed yes to rich stockbroker boyfriend yet? - sorry small village mentality spilling over into CYPERSPACE!!! that word sed by 50's style voice over of B/W space serials yah? am now rambling, will finish off glass of sinlge malt (a wee nippy sweetie as oor billy wud say) and head to bed, love always Perry-mankster (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Perry, how wonderful to hear from you! Your little one must be quite a big boy by now, and I'm glad to see that he and his siblings are keeping you busy! By your actions you sound like the kind of husband that many women dream of-dedicated, considerate and, above all, hard-working!
Ah, Perry, you have asked me a direct question; what can I do but give you a direct answer, a privilege I would grant to few others. He proposed again the last time we were in Africa. I hesitated, just for a moment, before saying yes. I simply could not bear to see any more disappointment on his face, and, yes, I do love him. We're getting married in the autumn, and then back to Africa for an extended honeymoon. Given the planning involved and all of my other commitments, professional, political and personal, this means that I will not have an awful lot of spare time on my hands in future. It means-and you are the first to know-that I will shortly be abandoning the Wikipedia ship. Sad, but true. I intend to post a note of farewell in the near future. The Age of Clio is, at last, drawing to a close; the sun is going down!
Speaking of disposable underwear, Rockpocket, my father has a huge collection of rock and folk albums from the 1960s and 1970s, including one by a band called Alice Cooper entitled School's Out. You may know it? It's really quite clever, with the cover in the shape of an old school desk. But what fascinated me was that the album itself is contained not in the usual paper sleeve but a pair of disposable pants! Take care, y'all! Clio the Muse (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
To what extent can it be argued that the tactics of commanders during the great war were responsible for the mass casualties suffered on the western front. Thanks --Hadseys 19:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
You belong to me. How will I manage without you?OTMA (talk) 12:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
This is more hopeful. No doubt I was too grumpy with Tagishsimon, but Bede's metaphor is of the soul passing through life, so outside the hall is death and there's no coming back. Clio has friends here in the warm and the dry and also gets something from the place, so it seems to me that we should be slow to say sad goodbyes! (She can get married, though.) Xn4 14:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is it, everyone: it's time to say farewell. I thought I might stay on for another week or two, but things are mounting up, and having revealed my intentions it's probably a mistake to hang on any longer. After all, there is nothing worse than the long goodbye!
When I came here originally it was really only for some late-night amusement, though over time it has become quite serious, consuming more of my intellectual energy than is perhaps wise. It's been fun, though; well, mostly fun! There are so many people I've made contact with over the past year and a half, people I have come to respect and admire; people who have assisted me in one way or another: collaborators, interlocutors and guides; people I have come to regard as friends, insofar as one can have friends in this unreal medium. I can't mention you all by name but amongst the very best are Sluzzelin, Rockpocket, Xn4, David D, Ghirlandjo, TenofallTrades, Bielle, Perrymankster, Retarius, Eric and Dweller. Please do not feel hurt if I neglected to mention you by name; the list is by no means complete, it's just that I felt these users were deserving of special note.
There is one other person I would like to mention, the gentle, perceptive, sensitive and intelligent Sam Clark, an early associate and friend, who, alas, will probably never see this, for he has long since been driven away by that fatal combination-mediocrity and stupidity. The same forces attempted to gang up against me, but I am tough, oh, yes, I am tough! The more I am under threat the more determined I become. They had no simply no idea what they were up against, absolutely no idea! For I hunt, you see, and I know how one stalks prey!
I'm off to a midnight gathering now, where I will raise a glass or two of champers in toast of you all. I may come back from time to time to see how things are, but I can't be certain. Much love, from Anastasia F-B (that's as much as you get to know!) and from the divine and immortal spirit of history Clio the Muse (talk) 23:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC) [1] Remember this always: things do begin and end at exactly the right time and in exactly the right place.
I'm lost for words. Jet Eldridge (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Ahhh Dear lady i knew this day would come, but never felt it would be so sad. I wish you and RSB all the happiness you both deserve. As a cyberfriend, your were my first, my last, my everything. I hope your big day goes as smooth as mine and Mrs Mankster's did (it was a lovely Septemember day, full of sunshine, smiles and laughter, truely one of the best days of my life) as it approaches and things seem to be getting more stressful, never forget why you are doing it, because of love...
O, my luve is like a red, red rose,
O, my luve is like the melodie,
As fair art thou, my bonie lass,
And i will luve thee still, my dear,
Till a' the sea's gang dry, my dear,
And i will luve thee still, my dear,
And fare thee weel, my only luve,
And i will come again, my luve'
I think you deserve this for your many wonderful contributions to the Reference Desk, always a pleasure to read. I am so sorry that you are gone. Topseyturvey (talk) 05:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Clio, I'm not into awards and such like but I couldn't let you go without saying thanks for your fantastic erudition. Go well in all your endeavours. It's been great fun having you around. And remember, we'll still be here if you have nothing to do on a rainy day ... assuming such as thing as spare time exists in your world. -- JackofOz (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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Xn4 11:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I used to read the Humanities desk as an anon IP. I joined because of you. I thought I might have caught you out with some tricky philosophy questions. I was wrong. I can't believe that you are gone. It's just not the same any more. I wish you happiness, Anastasia. You are irreplaceable. With love and admiration. Steerforth (talk) 18:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I wish you all the best and thank you for your erudite and witty contributions to the Humanities Reference Desk. Edison (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, everyone, more positivity! Our earnest thanks to Clio are very seemly, but Major Bonkers hits the right note. No monument to make our Muse bashful about coming back. She's looking in across the Western Sea, and if we're good will drop in from time to time, when other things allow, even if only on the pattern of a visiting comet. Only a few weeks ago, she wrote here:
“ | Seriously, guys, even if I did cross over I would still maintain a Clio presence here on the Wikipedia Reference Desk, which provides me with constant stimulation, amusement and the occasional soupcon of drama!. I would be living, so to speak, in parallel universes. | ” |
Clio has given us far too much of her time, and in return she's taken a mighty pounding from the creatures of the Wild Wood. It can't go on. And here's another thought. So far, by comparison with what it was, I'm finding the Humanities Desk a dismal wilderness without Clio - no one jumps on me with high-spirited glee any more, and no one has a mind like a steel trap. But Clio has never had a Clio here, if you see what I mean. So we need to be brighter, better denizens of the Ref Desk, more appealing creatures of the Rock Pool. Xn4 02:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Have they really left Middle-Earth forever? Then the sun has truly gone down, and all we are left with is the Age of Men! Thank you for the memories, Queen Galadriel. Mark of Cornwall (talk) 08:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Clio. Have you had a chance to see my latest question on the Humanities Desk? Hamish MacLean (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I was the one who originally welcomed you to Wikipedia when you came, and I find it fitting to give you (hopefully) your last message in this talk page. I was amazed at how quickly you picked up on the Reference Desk, and I gave you the first of a long series of well-deserved awards, the Exceptional Newcomer Award. For pretty much one and a half years now, I've seen you display a great deal of knowledge and wit, as well as a great willingness to help people. I'll never forget how you helped me with my DYK of Julius Excluded From Heaven. My only regret is not helping you to be more active in the article space, where you could have helped so much more. We will definitely have a harder time answering questions on the Humanities desk. Best of wishes to you, and I hope that you continue to live a real and fulfilling life, and to of course continue your love of history. May Clio, the Muse, continue to guide you. bibliomaniac15 04:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello, my old friend. Hope you're well. I'm looking for a page number from a book for the chart in this section. The book is called "The best of the best: A new look at the great cricketers and their changing times", by Charles Davis. I found two ISBNs: 0733308996 and 978-0733308994. Any chance you can help? I'd much appreciate it. --Dweller (talk) 13:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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Come Back Soon! Strawless (talk) 17:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC) |
She would never say where she came from
Yesterday don't matter if it's gone
While the sun is bright
Or in the darkest night
Nobody knows
She goes and goes
Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday
Who could hang a name on you?
When you change with every new day
Still I'm gonna miss you...
Don't question why she needs to be so free
She'll tell you it's the only way to be
She just can't be chained
To a life where nothing's gained
And nothing's lost
At such a cost
Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday
Who could hang a name on you?
When you change with every new day
Still I'm gonna miss you...
There's no time to lose, I heard her say
Catch your dreams before they slip away
Dying all the time
Lose your dreams
And you will lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?
Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday
Who could hang a name on you?
When you change with every new day
Still I'm gonna miss you... —Preceding unsigned comment added by I Karamazov (talk • contribs) 22:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Somebody asked a question about why people celebrate the French Revolution when it was pretty terrible, and I, rather than answering, rubbed my hands together in simple childlike glee, and decided I would wait to hear what you had to say. You never turned up. Several other questions were then asked over the next few days, each juicier than the last; with each grew my puzzlement at the increasingly severe local shortage of Clio.
You are no doubt wise to do this. But, when you discover that telling the gardener about Eleanor of Aquitaine palls, and when you notice the chap who sells you the morning paper resolutely fails to ask you what you know about William James and spiritualism, you might begin to question the utility of such wisdom. When wisdom falls by the wayside, as surely it must, you will be welcomed again with huzzahs and all possible demonstrations of joy. --Relata refero (disp.) 19:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Ah, and think of all the puzzled NYT readers you're missing.... --Relata refero (disp.) 22:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
As we dimly foresaw, Clio, the Humanities Reference Desk has changed utterly without you! Some of our companions have blown away on the cold north wind, the zing has gone, and even the serious historical and philosophical questions are softly and silently vanishing away. Such a sea change couldn't have been foretold, and in the words of the poet Masefield "...to go is royal and liker a queen than to stay", but... but...
Missing you,
Xn4 01:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I hope you are coming back. The project and its drones need you... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey Clio remember me? Lol. I need your help again, pleeeeeeeeeeeease. For a school project I have been asked to identify who I think the three greatest roman emperors were and what made them great. I would like to know what you think. maybe I can be a bit different from the others in my group! Love, Kathy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathy Burns (talk • contribs) 10:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, you've gone. :( Kathy Burns (talk) 21:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
The second Cambridge meetup is confirmed for this Saturday, 3pm, at CB2 on Norfolk Street: Wikipedia:Meetup/Cambridge 2. Hope to see you there. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Guys, those of you who remember me, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here; yes, I am! :-)) I'm building up a personal blog now under the heading of Ana the Imp, if anyone would like to check, commenting on all of the things I am interested in. Thanks for all of your emails over the past year and my apologies if I have not responded to you personally; I've just been so busy. I will leave you with a cryptic remark. I can see so much; I understand so much; yes, I do. Lots of love, Clio...and Ana. :-))Clio the Muse (talk) 16:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
ahhhhh the lady is back (and swearing!) missed you, nice picture! (still not convinced you are truly blonde) but so glad your about, hope the nuptials went okay, see you around, as ever your servant, love Perry-mankster (talk) 08:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
[2] :P Perry-mankster (talk) 21:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
A (an) history professor I asked about this statement on your user page questioned the extent of party politics in the era of Charles II. Comment? Edison (talk) 03:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Just added. :-)) http://anatheimp.blogspot.com/2010/04/of-whigs-and-tories.html Clio the Muse (talk) 23:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Dear Clio, I recently contributed an article on the above gentleman to our German wikipedia, mainly on the basis of Tom Segev's book The 7th Million. I am, however, quite unhappy about the fact that nothing seems to be known about Mildenstein's further life after 1936 or so. Did he survive the Nazi era? (for an SS-officer he seems to me a bit too kindly - that could have gotten him into trouble). If he survived what did he do after the war? When did he die? I came across your 2007 answer about the subject just now and I like it a lot. Maybe you happen to know somebody who knows somebody who happens to know? Thanks in advance! Robert Schediwy (Vienna)--86.33.220.43 (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
P.S: Looks like the guy produced a book on cocktail mixing in 1964 - so he must have survived. Books from 1938 and 1942 on the Middle East came out in Germany, so he has probably not fallen out of favour with the regime... --86.33.220.43 (talk) 17:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.33.220.43 (talk) 09:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks. Would not Mildenstein merit an article of his own in English Wikipedia? Maybe this could stimulate further information. I hesitate to do it myself, but already your answer given in 2008 on the subject is so substantial that it could easily serve as a starting point. You are right, the subject is loaded - but this is an encyclopedia that is not supposed to avoid such subjects but to treat them "sine ira et studio"...Greetings --86.33.220.43 (talk) 04:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for your trouble. I think I'll let Mildenstein rest in peace now for a while. I don't want to focus too much on one single person or one single issue. And there are so many doubtful cases. E.g. did you ever hear of Hans von Meiss-Teuffen? Aristocrat from Zurich, double agent in WW II, sailed across the Atlantic singlehandedly in 1948 and wrote a bestseller about it. Featured as a Russian spy in one of the first movies on flying saucers... and then, ver little is known about him. He's on my list too... Thanks again and greetings from Vienna. Robert Schediwy --86.33.220.43 (talk) 21:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again. There is now an English article on Mildenstein after all. Robert Schediwy --91.129.8.14 (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Of course I remember you (and miss you...). Thanks for the blog link, I will check it out shortly! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
So nice to hear from you, dear Ana, and thank you for pointing out the link. Coincidentally, I just visited your impish blog a few hours before you dropped a message. I had wanted to comment on your fashion thread, but somehow I wasn't able to post it without creating an account (perhaps it was just as well, as I was in quite a Euterpean state). Miss you here. Keep popping your head in from the underground. All the best! ---Sluzzelin talk 06:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
. . . but, seeing your post on Sluzzelin's talk page and having taken a look at your blog, I just have to remark that you are certainly missed considerably on the reference desks. When you departed, the quality of discourse took a nosedive from which it hasn't yet recovered. Deor (talk) 00:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
On 4 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leopold von Mildenstein, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Adolf Eichmann felt he was given his "big break" by fellow Austrian Leopold von Mildenstein? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Now that Clio has revealed her name (some time back I might add), does anyone know where I can find her books? She mentioned she had a publishing contract some years back, so I'd be curious to read her work. I can't find "Fitzgerald-Beaumont" in library catalogues or on Amazon, so does she write under a different name? It's been emotional (talk) 07:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Dearest Clio, how deem tings? x Perry-mankster (talk) 20:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Broadsword calling danny-boy, come in danny-boy, over x. Perry-mankster (talk) 21:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Saw your comment on William of Norwich article. I added some links to the article - one to a paper given to the Jewish Historical Society of England. See Arnold Wesker's play about the case. and here: [3] Google Jewish Encyclopedia to see article "England"
Christians in medieval Catholic Europe could not lend money on interest. The church forbade it. Jews could. This is because of verses in the Old Testament. William the Conqueror brought Jews with him to England in 1066 as money lenders. Resentment arose from nobles who had debts to Jews. The debts were annulled by massacring Jews in York and other places. RPSM (talk) 18:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC) RPSM (talk) 18:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
fascinating ... nice work. Decora (talk) 16:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I reckon you would absolutely love this thread: [[4]]. All the best to you and yours. --Dweller (talk) 09:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Belatedly, I've added your name to this list. I'd be supremely happy to revert myself. --Dweller (talk) 11:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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