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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - October 2023

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13:10, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Midland Railway station in Bradford

I have seen that many years ago you also got caught up in the discussion of the naming of the Midland Railway station.

I have found some contemporary directories at www.bradfordfhs.org.uk from 1861 to 1917 (Kellys and Post Office).

Also I have found the maps at the National Library of Scotland maps.nls.uk useful. They have OS maps and Town Plans giving greater detail for selected places. It gives the choice of year where they have enough maps.

Comparing maps show development and cross-referencing with directories explains some otherwise uncertain matters.

In 2016 I corresponded with the Midland Railway Study Centre in Derby, midlandrailwaysociety.org.uk. They were very helpful and photographed an employment record for someone who had been a driver at Manningham. BlueWren0123 (talk) 13:17, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Assorted other sources:

Back Track Jun 2016 Vol 30 No 6 No. 302 Putting Railways on the Map J. D. Bennett P372-373 www.pendragonpublishing.co.uk

Steam Days Feb 2018 Bradford Terminii Andrew Wilson P13-28 www.steamdaysmag.co.uk

British Railways Illustrated Apr 2019 Vol 28.7 The Midland Way to Bradford Gavin Glenister P300-305 www.irwellpress.co.uk

Steam Days Apr 2018 Rails between Skipton & Burnley Andrew Wilson P 51-63 www.steamdaysmag.co.uk

Back Track Dec 2018 Vol 32 No 12 The Contribution of Britain's Railways to the Great War Jeffery Wells P741-745 www.pendragonpublishing.co,uk

Back Track Apr 2019 Vol 33, No 4 No 336 Advice for Victorian Travellers Alistair F Nesbet P244-248 www.pendragonpublishing.co.uk

BlueWren0123 (talk) 13:47, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I think. Unfortunately, those all sound like primary sources. Unless any of those is a reliable secondary source for the issue of the station name, they're not usable for this issue - and in sending me to look at Bradford Forster Square railway station you have caused me to realise that eighteen years ago I perpetrated some original research there. I can't bring myself to slaughter my baby, so I've asked for somebody else to trim the section. ColinFine (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
I had not done any checking against your edits, I was just letting you know about sources that had been helpful to me while doing my family tree. I am new here, does your recognition of a problem not indicate that you are free from COI? BlueWren0123 (talk) 19:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
I think removing my own OR would be acceptable, but I don't want to do it myself, partly because it would be painful, and partly because I might not be objective in my decisions.
You can find my research (and the sources I used) at http://fine.me.uk/railways/
(I see I haven't updated it since 2006). ColinFine (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I have given it a try. Will my Victoria Embankment Gardens reference 'Stand up' to scrutiny?.

I think I only went to Station once about 1965 to see family members off. Recall style was typical Midland Railway. Had relatives Dudley Hill/ Ilkley / Shipley / Skipton mostly.

Remote connection to Frank Watkinson. Believe he did some building at one of the stations but do not know which. He did not complete work due to financial problems.

I used to have a readers ticket to PRO (now National Archives) at Kew but their RAIL category was not useful for family tree stuff. Online searching now gives too many possibles without knowing just what you want. But it seems that Wakefield may have useful items.

I have noticed that OS maps have Wike / Wyke interchangeably. Census enumerators struggled if not from local area and did not have a translator to assist. They wrote a description of the area being enumerated but accuracy varies.

Have looked at old Acts of Parliament they mention maps & plans but not included. Most are money matters and transfer of liability between Leeds & Bradford and Midland railways. Some are authorization for extensions Bowling area. Hansard is occasional, not searchable and not indexed so just too hard. Gazette could be worth a try. BlueWren0123 (talk) 06:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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