This is an archive of my talk page from January through the end of April 2012
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Regarding this edit summary where you said "Minor and obvious spelling and grammar fixes to other's comments are permitted"; kindly note WP:TPO, which explicitly states:
It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to correct typing/spelling errors, grammar, etc. It tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. The basic rule—with some specific exceptions outlined below—is that you should not edit or delete the comments of other editors without their permission.
Please do not mislead other editors into believing the contrary.
While you are, of course, at liberty to invite others to correct your errors; the general principle is not to, and so it is quite correct to revert third-parties' corrections. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
A discussion was started here regarding adding a tracking category to Jctint(/core) so we can find the articles where implementing miles←→km conversions would break the internets. I tried and failed to implement it in the core but the category started filling with every article. I think it has to do with the unit params filling in with nbsp when not called.
PS: every time you form a plural with an apostrophe, Jimbo considers putting ads on the wiki... –Fredddie™ 06:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't see the 401 on the list of new Featured article candidates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates . Maybe that's why it's not getting any reviews?
If you need help with the article, I will do what I can. Congrats on getting it buffed to A-Class status! Haljackey (talk) 07:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, In relation to the vote (RfC?), going on which is for the usage of coordinates on roads, specifically highways. I only saw the page since an editor said there was a proposal to remove all coordinates from Wikipedia which struck me as somewhat over the top. That's wrong of course but oh well. Your proposal though, it doesn't mention any projects to improve upon the situation and uses arguments like "If they all can't have them, none of them should have them. It is unprofessional looking otherwise.". Think of it like "this article doesn't have a picture so no articles should". Exceptions exist and to make a ruling based on an exception seems absurd. An example would be bridges, not all bridges are applicable to all crossings hence why List of bridge types exists. The rest of your points are fairly reasonable given how annoying roads can be to map, but you didn't mention any other project or proposal to fix that. Is there any? I'm all for making coordinates easier to deal with but it seems over the top to drop the only solution currently because roads are a pain. Can QGIS be used to map out a road, putting the coordinates into GML/GPX then into Google Maps or is that OR? Just something to replace what is removed. Note, I have a problem with tone, what is a dry and semi-logical tone in rl becomes harsh and aggressive on the internet so if that's the case this time apologies and feel free to delete this. Chrissd21 (talk) 04:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Floydian, you said "The fact that Google Maps has a wikipedia layer means that some form of correspondence has happened between the two. I'm sure with some work an even better solution is possible". Can you give me an example? I haven't noticed it when I have used google maps in the past. Thanks. stmrlbs|talk 16:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Floydian, I read through most of the RFC. However, since I haven't been following all the past history, I'm basing my opinion just on my view as a reader looking at a road article. I don't see anything wrong with adding coordinates of important points of a road to a road article (endpoints, junctions). I think that with more and more people using GPS, google maps, etc. - coordinates are useful. I do agree that having a bunch of coordinates displayed in the page would be distracting. I think having a table at the bottom where the person could reference them if they wanted to would be better - I think that was in one of the proposals. I certainly wouldn't make it a requirement - I think it should be optional.
One place where coordinate information would be useful (whether displayed or linked to) is in the major intersection table where there aren't articles defined for the points – like Argyle in Kawartha_Lakes_Road_8. Right now, you click on Argyle and end up in Kawartha. So, is that really the intersection? I don't know. But an addition icon linking to coordinates would give the reader the ability to link to a map where they could see where the Argyle intersection was. It would give them a better visual image of where those points were in relation to the road as a whole even if there was no wikipedia article for this intersection at this time.. If the road project starts using shapemaps or something like that, a set of coordinates of the "important" points in the road would be useful to highlight those points in the road shapemap.
I see that you use google maps in the references. So, in a way, you are using coordinates to visually show parts of the road - but only if the person notices the references and realizes they are maps. It is nice what you did, but not obvious to the reader unless they follow the reference. As a viewer of road articles, it would be nice to have this facility be a more accessible part of the article. Even a standard for optionally including links to maps highlighting the different parts of the roads like your references do. don't know if that would be against wiki standards or not. stmrlbs|talk 06:18, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
For your future reference here is a link to old County, Township and Town maps throughout most of southern Ontario. It is part of the Canadian County Atlas Digital Project at McGill University. You may find it useful when conducting historical and geographic investigations in those areas. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I found that you oppose to the addition of the genre "nu metal" in the System of a Down article, before continue with the discussion in the talk page i want to know some things: How works that reference "A" discounts reference "B" thing; and which wikipedia policy states that allmusic genre tags aren't reliables, i want to learn more. Nicrorus (talk) 03:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I see, i just don't thought that the "Discount thing" were that way, you know, if we apply that criteria to more bands, the nu metal genre would practically dissapear from wikipedia's infoboxes, in example Korn and Slipknot themselves disagrees with the label, and for each reference calling the music of a band such Deftones or Linkin Park nu metal, there are like six or more claiming that they don't, and even that they never were, what do you think, we shall apply the criteria to the rest of the bands or not? Nicrorus (talk) 05:37, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, can i count with you in the future as a backup and to advise another editors about the policies and consensus in the future? you are an experienced user who have done it and succeeded in the past, so your opinion is very valuable. Nicrorus (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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Floydian, just to let you know, I created a search that will search the Wikiproject Highways and subprojects - main and talk pages here: User:Stmrlbs/search/roads I used it to see where other discussions of coordinates were (and just because I sometimes look at this project). It is easier than searching all of wikipedia or searching each page separately. click on the SHOW below the search to see what areas I search. stmrlbs|talk 18:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
You might like to look at Template:Streets in Montreal. I also created Colborne Street as a disambiguation page. Open it up and you'll see that it was also the former name of part of Peel Street. Peter Horn User talk 16:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. I reviewed your good article nomination of Ontario Highway 410 and placed it on hold pending the addressing of a few concerns. You can read the review here. –Grondemar 16:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Your exit list on Ontario Highway 8 is linking, in the last two rows, to the disambiguation page at Hamilton instead of to the Ontario city at Hamilton, Ontario — but when I try to fix it by changing the entry field from "division" to "municipality" (which seems, from the way the template is coded, to be the correct solution), it causes that box to expand in width an extra column, pushing "Rockton" and "Peters Corners" into the km column instead of the location one. Could you fix this so that the table's actually linking to the right topic? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 01:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
You might want to drop in on User_talk:The_Anome#Coord_missing_and_the_new_linear_feature_KML_thing. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Template:List of roads in Toronto/eastwestTOC has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Floydian, I saw your edit to the Los Alamos county KML. What did you spot/change? Why do you think a coordinate was an error? I'm curious as the KMLs were exported from US Census TIGER line shapefiles using qgis. --Dschwen 23:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floydian! I've been doing what I can to help with the 401 FA... This nomination must really be stressing you out! Anyway I have been working on another chart showing lane count and distance for the 401. What do you think so far? Do you believe it can be added to the article?
Location | Highway 3 to Dougall Parkway | Dougall Parkway to Essex Road 42 | Essex Road 42 to Highway 402 | Highway 402 to Highway 403/410 | Highway 403/410 to Highway 427 | Highway 427 to Highway 27 | Highway 27 to Highway 409 | Highway 409 to Brock Road | Brock Road to Salem Road | Salem Road to Burnham Street | Burnham Street to Frontenac Road 38 | Frontenac Road 38 to Montreal Street | Montreal Street to Quebec Border | |
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Lane Count | 4 Lanes | 6 Lanes | 4 Lanes | 6 Lanes | 18 Lane collector-express system | 8 Lanes | 10 Lanes | 12-16 Lane collector-express system | 10 Lanes | 6 Lanes | 4 Lanes | 6 Lanes | 4 Lanes | |
Distance | 2.5 km | 43.1 km | 127.5 km | 161.3 km | 5.8 km | 0.8 km | 3.9 km | 43.3 km | 6.0 km | 68.3 km | 138.2 km | 8.2 km | 209.0 km | |
Number of through lanes on Highway 401 (excludes ongoing or planned widening projects) |
In addition I found this photo of 401/Allen from the 1970's in the commons. I think it could be a good addition or replacement of another image (maybe the Meadowvale Road one).
Anyways that's it from me for now. Good luck with the nomination! Haljackey (talk) 18:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
You did it!. Imzadi 1979 → 21:42, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Well done on its promotion. From where I'm sitting, it's been a long slog, and I didn't even write the article! Your patience in dealing with my picky issues is appreciated, and I hope (as I do with all featured content nominators) that this encourages you to continue to promote our best work, that you continue to promote our best practices. Really well done. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 21:42, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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Congratulations on getting Ontario Highway 401, one of the most important roads in the world, featured, and for sticking through the process that took a few years. Rschen7754 21:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC) |
I just wanted add in my congratulations for finally getting Highway 401 to become a featured article. I remember it was nearly two years back (was it really that long ago?) when you rewrote the article and were hoping for featured status. Over time, the article progressed from a B to a GA to an A and now finally to FA. Give yourself a pat on the back, you deserve it! Haljackey (talk) 05:05, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
For the record, I am against the coordinates system. If you need me to restate my opinion somewhere, feel free to let me know! Haljackey (talk) 23:56, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey- have you stopped reading my talk page. I posted a comment last night- explaining how concerned I was that your good move had been reversed. It is usually more effective to work steadily that being too frenetic. Have a look at my talk page and try to recover the situation- I have left some advice there. --ClemRutter (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Greetings - any particular reason why you deleted a reply I posted to the Help Desk?--ukexpat (talk) 01:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
I have granted file mover rights to your account following either a request for those rights or a clear need for the ability to move files. For information on the file mover rights and under what circumstances it is okay to move files, see Wikipedia:File mover. If you do not want file mover rights anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. —Tom Morris (talk) 03:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
It's not often I see competent, old-timer accounts at WP:RFPERM. Have you considered runnning for adminship? I see from your logs that you had rollback removed back in 2009 and then restored over concerns, but that doesn't seem like a big deal: it's more than two years old now. And you've got DYKs and GAs, so why not? —Tom Morris (talk) 04:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
The reference page by AMT calls it Highway 40. I had the same thoughts when I made the entry, because I may also have a tendancy to call them Autoroutes in Quebec. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:19, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Yesterday Secondarywaltz created redirects at Cherry Street (Toronto) and Commissioners Street. He or she did so just prior to leaving his or her comment at the Unwin ((afd)) -- about drafts I started User:Geo Swan/Cherry Street (Toronto) and User:Geo Swan/Blue Jays Way.
I initiated discussions at WP:RFD for those redirects.
I decided I should look to see if there were similar redirects to List of north–south roads in Toronto and List of east-west roads in Toronto.
As I was going through the redirects I found that not only were these all plausible topics for articles, but when I started looking at their histories they had started as articles. I saw that those ones had been nominated for deletion -- and the ((afd))s had resulted in either "keep" or "no consensus". However, it seems you then redirected them to List of north–south roads in Toronto.
I didn't see any sign of a discussion that preceded these redirections. So rather than initiate further RFD on the following redirects I thought I would ask you for some background. Would you mind filling me in as to whether there was a discussion prior to these redirections? If there was, could you point me at those discussions?
You used the word "accusation" when you referred to some questions I had of you. You used the word "intimidation" here on your talk page. From my perspective you started that ((afd)) with an inappropriately accusatory tone, and it only got worse. I have been doing my best to refrain from responding in kind.
You made a cryptic comment about how my comments reminded you of some comments some person named User:Oakshade made years ago. For the record I have never heard of Oakshade. I saw comments on Talk:List of north–south roads in Toronto where others referred to acrimonious discussions between the two of you. Those discussions have nothing to do with me, so could you please try to stop flashbacks to unpleasantness with them slop over into your interaction with others? Geo Swan (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
400-series Highways | |
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Highways: | (King's) Highway nn; Queen Elizabeth Way (QEW) |
System links | |
I updated ((infobox state highway system)) to support Canada, however it's not truly globalized. I did a mock up for the 400-series highways article. It uses the same subtemplates for colors, lengths, and links from ((infobox road)). I'll let you play around with it if you want to use it. Imzadi 1979 → 03:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I restored the templates to User:Floydian/List of roads in Toronto/northsouthTOC and User:Floydian/List of roads in Toronto/eastwestTOC. I will leave it up to you to move these back to template space if you feel there are reasons why other TOC options are not feasible. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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Wouldn't it be better to turn ZON into a disambiguation page instead of placing a link on the ZON Multimedia page? Whaddayathink? --L.Willms (talk) 17:23, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
This is a note to let the main editors of Ontario Highway 401 know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on April 14, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 14, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:
Ontario Highway 401 is a 400-series highway in the Canadian province of Ontario stretching from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is the busiest highway in North America, and one of the widest and busiest in the world. Together with Quebec Autoroute 20, it forms the transportation backbone of the Quebec City–Windsor Corridor, along which over half of Canada's population resides. The entire route is maintained by the Ministry of Transportation of Ontario and patrolled by the Ontario Provincial Police. The posted speed limit is 100 km/h (62 mph) throughout its length. In 2011 construction began on a westward extension of Highway 401. This new route will generally follow, but not replace, former Highway 3 between the current end of the freeway and the E. C. Row Expressway, at which point it will turn and follow that route to a new border crossing. (more...)
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See Media related to Hydro One at Wikimedia Commons - I hope it can help you. I got a drive-by of Leaside TS and a quick shot at Bridgman TS. I'm having some camera problems or I would have better ones for you. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
...on the KML parameter. Any thoughts on creating a separate icon that looks a little different? Imzadi 1979 → 16:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Based on the feedback here, I created and for the KML missing and unknown statuses with a matching icon minus the additions for the bit red X or the question mark the unmodified version for articles that have a KML. If desired, I can update the thickness of the red path line across the globe (which is to represent the line drawn by a KML). Imzadi 1979 → 03:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Floydian, I know you've been around here long enough to know better than this. Please take it to the talk page. Thanks, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 16:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)