I suspect that user Itaqallah (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet account of banned user BhaiSaab (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He seems to have taken over the edits of this page in the same style as BhaiSaab as you can see by looking at the page history.--CltFn 04:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure the deletion Israeli Art Students controversy of makes sense? I looked at the google cache here and it's not entirely clear it's the same article discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Israeli art students. The original DEA report can be found here (scroll down). -- Kendrick7talk 10:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
-- Kendrick7talk 04:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
If he had been playing nice then I wouldn't have known about him. However, it turns out he has been up to his old tricks. Aside from the edit-warring, often on the same subjects, he's promised not to use sockpuppets any more, much less several of them. I hadn't heard of this editor before last week, but it is clear that he was given a second chance and abused our trust. Wikipedia is not a reformatory or social experiment in rehabilitating difficult editors, and I think we've been more than fair with him. Jayjg (talk) 17:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a funny feeling that his...er...spirit of contribution may be alive and well at an IP address near you. Dppowell 20:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! Glancing briefly at my watchlist, I encountered 80.195.226.94 (talk • contribs). The anon' is vigoursly presenting a POV and I believe his/her contributions to Wikipedia need to be monitored. I'm unable to commit myself to that, so I decided to refer to a user who I believe has dilligently endured others who have exhibited similar editing patterns. Well, at least I think you have....? Apologies for the imposition. ;-) SoLando (Talk) 13:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for lying to people about what I did to get me blocked. What is your problem? Pco 20:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
And whoever posted this on the history of your talk page, was not me:
because I never posted anything to your user talk page. Pco 20:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
If you had responded on the Zionism talk page before reverting my edit, then I wouldn't have needed to comment here. In any case, I just responded to your comment over there. Would you please respond, rather than waiting till the next time I make the change and simply reverting it? As I said over there, I would also be extremely appreciative if you could actually explain yourself, rather than simply writing curt and combative comments which make your specific objections entirely unclear. Or am I being unreasonable now? Mackan79 04:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Latest chutzpah at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NeshAir. Thank you, IZAK 13:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Who's this guy? [1] --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
On the Jesus article, you removed a piece of information that was stated in the Bible. It's not point of view. --Yancyfry 04:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, according to the Bible, He is. It aslo says He is the Son of God, the Son of Man, Emmanuel, and a whole bunch of other stuff. -Yancyfry
What does one make of the new Category:Palestinian rabbis and Category:Talmud rabbis in Palestine, should they be renamed to something like Category:Rabbis of ancient Palestine? so that it does not connect, and become confused with, the way the word "Palestinian" is used today (meaning the very unJewish modern Arab Palestinians, who have nothing to do with these rabbis!) Thanks. IZAK 09:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Note: Many articles about the rabbis of the Talmud and Mishnah are derived from the archaic Jewish Encyclopedia, published between 1901-1906, over one hundred years ago (when the Middle East was still under the thumb of the Ottoman Turks) and which used the archaic expressions "Palestine" when referring to the Land of Israel, and to the Jews living in the areas of the historical Land of Israel as "Palestinians." This is a big mistake that requires constant attention and correction, especially when copying and editing articles from the Jewish Encyclopedia or from similarly archaic sources such as Easton's Bible Dictionary (1897). At this time, no-one uses the term/s "Palestinian/s" (in relation to anything associated with Jews or the land they lived in and which they regarded as their homeland) nor by any type of conventional Jewish scholarship, particularly at the present time when the label "Palestinian" is almost entirely identified with the Palestinian Arabs who are mostly Muslims. Finally, kindly take note that the name Palestinian Talmud is also not used and it redirects to the conventional term Jerusalem Talmud used in Jewish scholarship. Thank you. IZAK 13:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Makes sense, I'll try to remember. However, there was a period when everyone referred to the land of Israel as Palestine. Therefore, to say something like "in 1940 Shlomo Pines emigrated to Israel" would appear to be an anachronism. Don't we have to use the term "Palestine" during a certain period for historical accuracy? What is this period? From Roman conquest until 1948? Thanks. Dfass 15:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: I received the following message, perhaps you can assist. Thanks. IZAK 10:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Dear Jayjg, thank you for giving me your support at my rfa.--Berig 11:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I've filed a request for arbitration regarding your use of checkuser privilege.
Justforasecond 22:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Jay, if you still have a view on the antisemitism template travbar, would you mind posting a comment? I feel that these things are vandalism magnets. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 22:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, User:172.163.57.130, who is also obviously User:172.137.17.81, User:172.128.26.209, User:172.129.88.160, and so on, appears to be trying to re-create the deleted category "Jewish-American businesspeople" as a list. Factually speaking, there are some obvious mistakes in their edits (there's Milton S. Hershey, who is obviously not Jewish, which his article even states ["As a young adult, his Reformed Mennonite mother's family financed ..."], or William Cohen, who is not particularly Jewish according to most sources). They've done stuff like [4]. So yeah, I'd guess it to be a case of an A.W.A. - an Anon With an Agenda. Mad Jack 05:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Unfortunately, User:FrummerThanThou has crossed the lines of acceptable editing. He has now created [5] a provocative new "user" User:Jesus. See User talk:Jesus#Problem with your user name. I do believe that admin intervention is overdue. Thanks. IZAK 08:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion FYI: Hi Tomer! A Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion has asserted itself in the Korban article. The project indicates that it is an umbrella project for all of religion and that the current religion projects are subprojects of it, yet its member directory lists only six members. Where is the project coming from? Is it a broadbased project, a very small group with a very big reach, or what? If you know some background or some of its people, would be much appreciated. Best, --Shirahadasha 03:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi: Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Judaism. Thanks, IZAK 10:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
NOTICE and OBJECTIONS:
Thank you for taking this matter seriously. IZAK 09:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: It is very important that you see the points and the response from User:Badbilltucker about his aims at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#NOTICE and OBJECTIONS to WikiProject Religion vs. Judaism ASAP. Have a Happy Chanukah! IZAK 15:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg,
An RfC case involving you has been opened here [6]. --Aminz 14:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
What do you make of an edit like this? This is the kind of thing I would have reverted in the past and asked the user to provide a better source and then move it down in the article under early life/family background whatever. I would really like to continue being an editor on this project and do not want to run into any trouble with any of my edits. Thanks.--Tom 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Alithien suggested you may do a better job mediating.
Please help mediate on this page. We require your assistance. My argument is that user is adding much one-sided information and too much text to evoke emotions. Other material has almost nothing to do with the actual subject at hand. I am trying to maintain a fair and factual article. Your help is greatly appreciated. I would just like you to see my comments and arguments to his reasons [7]. Also, please take a look at my version in comparison with his (as protected by Husond) [8]. He has added redundant info. He gave the rest of the quotation, unneeded but okay. The problem is that the second one is accompanied by the original text in Arabic. The Arabic text we have does not continue with the rest of the sentence, that is why his longer translation is not needed, especially not twice. He has also added POV. He uses his own sources while oblivious to others. That is why I try to leave it balanced, with all views represented.
As for the "Controversial claim" section, I am going to propose it be combined with the similar article section Al-Aqsa Mosque#Location of the “farthest mosque” and possibly have its own page. If you have any suggestions or objections for me, I am glad to hear. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shamir1 (talk • contribs)
Hi Jayjg. Nearly Headless Nick posted some stats about the creation of AN and AN/I, and I noticed that they say you started AN/I a while before AN. Just out of curiosity, how did that happen? I certainly would've expected subpages to come after their parent page. Or is it just a mistake in the stats? Picaroon 00:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Just reviewing an unblock request by User:Gnetwerker, I was wondering which page was the attack page referred to in your block summary?
I assume it has been deleted, which makes it hard for me to track down. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 18:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
That's the kind of stuff I'd immediately revert; that wasn't the kind of stuff you were removing, though. Jayjg (talk) 01:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
If I've misjudged you then I apologize. Jayjg (talk) 04:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Jayjg, I've encountered you on a number of pages and been impressed with your mediative skills and willingness to help. Would you please take a look at the recent disputes on Pioneer Courthouse Square and its talk page, which involve me (and one or two others) versus an IP address in a NPOV debate? If you can't, could you please direct me to somewhere I can request some sort of formal or informal mediation of this dispute? The relevant help pages seem to be tangles of indecipherable and sometimes contradictory information. Thank you. --Makaristos 06:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The editor that you blocked indefinitely has returned under a sockpuppet account, adding the same non-encyclopedic tripe to the Pioneer Courthouse Square article. --Walor 15:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions in my recent RfA, which failed. Any further advice you could offer would be much appreciated! Seraphimblade 15:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Ebionites article passed GA. We are having a 2nd round of peer review to get it ready for FA nomination. Your perspective on changes needed to make it FA quality would be appreciated. Ovadyah 16:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
You recently protected[9] this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 19:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
This sounds rather serious. Would you be able to take a look at it and decide what needs doing? I've posted to the talk pages of some of the arbitrators and one of the clerks as well, but not any further. Thanks. Carcharoth 23:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. BTW, I have a possible solution to Kgeza67. Check your email... Khoikhoi 20:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg, would you be able to take a look at Chabad-Lubavitch, Menachem Mendel Shneerson and Yechi, Theres a relativly new editor TrachtGut (talk · contribs) who's been making some major edits and deletions to these articles. He has been asked a number of times by numerous editor to use the talk pages before changing the articles. But he keeps on reverting back to his own version. This is causing an edit war. would you be able to take a look? Things look a bit calm for the moment, but perhaps you can keep your eyes on the watch and weigh in when needed? thanks allot for your help. Shlomke 20:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to help bust User:Kgeza67 as sockpuppet. You deserve a barnstar or something for your tireless efforts.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 22:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Jayjg. I've been having trouble with User:68.5.96.201 too, and I see that you've left a block notice on this editor's page. But I look at the block log and I don't see anything. I'm confused. What's up? — coelacan talk — 01:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm searching for a single word in Hebrew that describes the table-fellowship Ebionites practiced that kept them separated from Gentiles. The closest I have come so far is Kashrut#Maintenance_of_a_separate_culture, but Kashrut puts more emphasis on the food than the fellowship. The Greek word koinonia comes close, but doesn't specifically refer to fellowship at table. Any thoughts? Ovadyah 00:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I misread the diff. My mistake. Please accept my sincere apologies. Abu ali 09:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, can you add such detail as is appropriate to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oleh Petriv Bucketsofg 04:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted your (3rd?) addition of the argument that Jews and Arabs are not separate races. While well-sourced, it does not counter a positive argument.
My previous edit summary pointed to the article's talk page, where I've left a similar comment. Please respond (if nec'y) there. I've only come here since you must have missed the edit summary. Jd2718 04:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I wish you had put the 3RR stuff on my user page, and not a public talk page. I ask you to move it, or remove it. In the meantime, I've reported the violation here Jd2718 05:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC) Thank you. I appreciate that you removed it. Jd2718 23:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
You have again removed the Israel section because it has in [citation needed] but there is no sources on Malay and yet you have re entered it. how many rules are you contradicting? Which rule is it, citation needed or citation not needed?--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 16:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
You will find it better to add Israel, I have no agenda other than balance i am sure in all your sense you can understand what i am saying. The fact that NOthing is mentioned about Israel is extreamly wrong, have you seen the news for the last 50 yrs? and i am sure you know this. I would like you to then add something or stop removing what i add because of an unbelivable threshold. the entire site we are edit is rubbbish, no sources and a mess, so why pick one thing to be so sensitive about? Please if you show balance you will find i will not push these points. I have allowed critism of my own country, race and history y cant u?--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 16:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi JayG (and everyone). i am very impressed by your talk page. However, i'm kind of new here. Sorry to bother you with this, but could you (or anyone else) please tell me what some of these controversial Israel-related articles which everyone is dicussing are? I would like to help represent the pro-Israel concerns (with fairness, of course), but I'm not sure which articles are these points of contention. The few articles which I've looked at are historical, and don't seem to get much attention. Sorry to bother you with this basic question. Appreciate your help. Thanks. --Sm8900 23:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Jayjg, may I ask you not to remove tags from the articles in which you are not involved. [10] You apparently haven't ever seen the talk page recently. Here we do have other sources but even without that your approach in removal of the tags is not at least universally accepted [11] --Aminz 00:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
As I said before, there is much discussion on the talk page (e.g. [12]). Do you expect an edit warring for the tag to remain? For the editors involved the disputes are clear. The Proabivouac's removal of the tag was nothing more than his support of the current version of the article. --Aminz 00:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. Sloppy reading on my part - I thought Cole's point was entirely gone. I will revert myself. Jd2718 18:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
You are right; I was following a version of 3RR that was in my head, rather than the one that is written down. I apologise. I have reverted myself back to an earlier version. Catchpole 20:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.48.71.15 Zeq 08:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
well, you were supposed to mediate this article but maybe you can start with preventing the OR in it ?
Talk:Palestinian_exodus#The_so-called_.22Suba_Ruins.22 . Thanks. Zeq 10:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: How notable is this person Mala Zimetbaum, and does she deserve an article of her own? There were millions of Holocaust so should they all get their own articles now? Doesn't that trivialize the event? Seems that if someone gets to write a book or gets mentioned somewhere, they then "automatically" become notable. What do you think? IZAK 16:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Jay and IZAK:
The entry, on casual read, does seem to lack a demonstration of the significance of this individual, who deserves a more encyclopedic rewrite with better sourcing. A bit of Googling comes up with some useful information on her. In particular, the two articles about her at the Ideas Journal are worthwhile ([13] and [14]); the second one (including companion photographs) is by the German author of 1995's Mala, A Life and Love in Auschwitz (ISBN 3-924444-89-7). A new biography in French by Gérard Huber was published in April of this year (see: [15].)
In particular, the testimony about Mala (given by Raya Kagan) during the Adolph Eichmann trial, available at the Nizkor Project, seems to indicate her "legendary" status and international renown.
Further indications of notability:
Hope that helps establish whether she's worthwhile as an article subject. --LeflymanTalk 01:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
May the new year bring you peace, happiness, love, and hope for all things you wish for. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Personal attacks should not be tolerated, but the should have to occur before you get a warning. You have people become wikizealots or wikinazis. I used the term wikinazi and asshole in a conversation with another user. The terms were not directed at that user or anyone, just a generic 3rd person. They were also on a users talk page. Please check my records as a wiki contributor, you will see I do not vandilize. Gwernol gave me a warning for personal attacks when none occured. He had to read a communication between two other users to find it, and then did not comprehend what he read. There must me some leaway between users to speak their opinion, with fear of an uninvolved 3rd party butting in. If someone has a complaint, then they have a right to get involved but not before. That being said, I would like your opinion, and you can give your honest opinion, I like a straight shooter.
Also, on the idea of Wikinazis, and wikizealots. I honestly believe this is becoming a problem and damaging wiki. There is a lack of fairness that is occuring regularly, and bad judgement calls by editors. This damages wiki, people don't want to donate to a cause that does not treat people fairly. Red links for one in a story, these are not all bad. The encourage readers to contribute. Many times when I edit an article I put real words or names in a link, then I go back in fill it in after I finish working on the main article. Also other people read it an know about real words or names, and they click and write the article. Originally there was a Template:West Virginia State Highways it was listed as tfd and it failed to be deleted because a group of West Virginians fought for it. It stayed, then as soon as it was finished we moved on somebody nominated it again, and since it was finshed none of us saw it, now it is replaced with the Category:West Virginia State Highways. I'm sure somebody said "per norm." Problem is per norm doesn't always exist. We have a group of WVer's that know our state better than somebody in California, yet we constantly try to get pidgeon holed when our state works differently. If you correct the bad information, even sighting example. Somebody always comes in and changes it back. Then the people that know best, get warned don't revert it back. WTF? So guy in the UK is editing something in our back yard and gets the priority of being right. It should revert to the last edit, not the new bad information that was posted. Many of these editors do not know how to be objective, nor do they care too.
Somehow wiki needs to police the police. Like Gwernol when no complaint exist, he creates one to feel powerful? Some of these editors get off on creating contriversey where none exist. This doesn't help wiki, it just angers those that try to actually help. I just noticed User talk:Francs2000 left and it appears he got tired of the BS. Wiki can't afford to loose people just because you end up with a few bad editors and users (users in Francs2000's case). Somebody has to use common sense. Thanks for your time. --71Demon 22:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Have you ever had a close look at this strange article: Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people? It's full of red links for the supposed Jews he had contact with (do they deserve articles just because they were Hitler's alleged dentist/shoe-shine-boy/chimney-sweep/whatnots etc?) It's weirdly prurient. The heading stinks. Do all the Jews killed in the Holocaust get to be in it? How about all the theories about Hitler having a Jewish ancestor, does that also count as him having "contact" with Jewish people? I doubt that the originators of this article and those who worked on it have rational objectives. It should be merged with something else involving Adolf Hitler or even deleted for its stupidity. (If not, how about Adolf Hitler's contacts with gypsies, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Italian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Russian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with retarded people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with murderers this can go on forever, and then we can even create Category:Adolf Hitler's contacts with people. IZAK 02:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Shouldn't the Zionism and racism article be renamed to Allegations of Zionism and racism as with Allegations of Israeli apartheid? What are your thoughts? IZAK 02:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Jay. Best wishes for a great year! El_C 04:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Ever heard of this? See List of Muslim converts#Religious figures: "Maimonides - Jewish philosopher, theologian, and physician forced to convert to Islam under pain of death during the Cordoba massacre of 1148. Reverted to Judaism when his life was no longer under threat.<ref>Lewis (1984), p. 100</ref>" I don't see which book by "Lewis" is even cited here, and does "Lewis" even say that? (I assume this refers to the Arabist Bernard Lewis.) I had once heard that the Rambam did issue a heter for this kind of procedure (it must be written somewhere) but I had never heard that it had also happened to himself personally. I read an article in the English Yated a couple of years ago that the Mashhadi Jews in Iran relied on such a ruling from the Rambam, and that it was controversial, yet acceptable according to Halachah. Can you help with verifying this, especially if it happened to the Rambam? Thanks. IZAK 18:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you help in translting 3 words from Hebrew ? משטרת הישובים העבריים
Tnx. Zeq 19:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
for Yishuv. It is comunity. see morfix.co.il
Settlement is התנחלות
Zeq 19:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeshuv kehilati (in current Hebrew) is exactly what Yeshuv was in the 1920/30: A group of people who know each other and share / have in common more than just the same address: I.e. a community.
On the other hand Hitnahalout (settlement) is today such an overloaded term that the use of it where it is not in a settlment (across the green-line) is totaly misleading to any average reader. Zeq 20:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeshuv Khilati = Community with bylaws governing who can join that community. Zeq 20:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeshuv is Kehila and Khilati is "by the community" and refer to the fact that Yeshuv Khilati (in oppose to yeshuv lo Khilati) there are those by-laws that govern who can join. Yet Yeshuv Khilati is not a Kibuz or a Moshav.
Kibuz is also calld "Yeshuv Kibutzi" (a co-opertive comunity), A town is also called "yeshuv Ironi" (an Urban comunity). An garicultural comunity is "Yeshuv Haklai". all together Yeshuv is comunity in many diffreent uses in the Hebrew languge and you still did not address the simple issue that settlement is Hintahalout - a word with very specific meaning that refers to the green-line (which did not even sxited prior to 1949) Zeq 20:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
No. There is a translation it is comunity. Translations is not based on rules which can be transfered from one lang to another. If you take a root which can become both a verb and a noun it can become a totaly diffrenet words when translated. example: Yeshuv = Community , Yeshiva = "a yeshiva" or " a meeting" or the act of sitting down. In the same way Kehila is comunity and Khilaty is "by the comunity". the sufix "י" in many case in Hebrew creates somthing that takes more than one word in english to translate. sometimes it mans the superlative (of the same root without the "י". Please explain where in "משטרת הישובים העבריים You have found the green-line and settlments ? Zeq 21:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Are we now going o adopt views of the Israeli govrement as guidelines for Wikipedia ? the world settlment has a specific meaning in the world and it has to do with the green-line and the occupaied Palstinian territories - do you deny that ? Zeq 21:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year Jay. I made a New Year's resolution to be less of a shrew, if you can believe that. Off to a bad start it seems. --G-Dett 20:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Jay,
I fail to see what Yeshuv Khilaty has to do with משטרת הישוביים העבריים
can we go back to trnalting it correctly.
see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlements http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jewish_Settlement&redirect=no
"settlements are communities built by Israelis in territory captured in the 1967 Six-Day War. "
clearly the משטרת הישוביים העבריים is before 1967. Zeq 21:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/526/808.html
So what about them התנחלויות from before 67 ? Zeq 13:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Holocaust&diff=97736646&oldid=97732048 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Holocaust&diff=prev&oldid=97706933 Gzuckier 22:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
See my responses at Talk:List of Muslim converts#Removing Maimonides from the list. Thanks, IZAK 04:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Ramsquire wrote me on my talk page to suggest I might have a reportable incident against you regarding your deletion of my comments on your page. I will not report this, but will simply ask that you please show greater respect for my and others' attempts to discuss these issues with you. There is a great deal wrong with the JfJ page, as I believe you must know. It should not be a mystery why I and several others keep objecting to the language on the page. I do not mean this as an insult, but simply as a request that we discuss these matters in good faith, as I believe we are capable.Mackan79 22:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it Confirmed that CantStandYa = Shran = Listed accounts, or simply CantStandYa = Listed accounts? I'm guessing the latter, but just wanted to make sure given the link provided to LTA. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 23:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Jews for Jesus 2, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.
Hi Jayjg, In your comments posted here you indicated that you have "discovered the original Talk: page on which you started going off about this". I find your remarks to be slightly insensitive, as I do not feel that I "go off" about anything. I do raise concerns which are legitimate and try to work with other involved editors to resolve the situation amicably. If you would like to reply, I will monitor your talk page. Thank you. --Uncle Bungle 05:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the consideration you gave to my RfA. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. You were one of the oppose votes, and raised concerns. I am more than willing to discuss those concerns with you if you are interested. Please let me know. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 12:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jay: Take a look at these templates:
with the displayed prominently. Honestly, of all of Hinduism's symbols' did this one have to get "headline" billing on these templates? Alternatives are aplenty if one were to look around on articles listed on ((Hindu Deities and Texts)) where there are dozens of less offensive symbols that could be chosen for the same purpose. While the swastika may be ok with some Hindus, it should not be flashed around "in all innocence" because for the rest of the world that was caught up in World War II it was the symbol of literal EVIL, DEATH and DESTRUCTION emanating from the Nazis. It was Hitler's personal diabolical "symbol of choice" and for that reason it is VERY far from neutral, no matter in what context it is used. It violates Wikipedia:Civility to have it displayed in such an "in your face" fashion on these Hindu templates, giving it a dubious "place of pride" it does not deserve. Need one say more? IZAK 22:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
The swastika was a political party's symbol. The fact that it offends people is irrelevant. If you don't enjoy being offended, there's always Adblock plus. It's not that I support putting it back in (since the new symbol seems more relevant), but the fact that a symbol of an Eastern religion offends westerners is irrelevant. It is not an encyclopedia's job to use perjorative terms such as "evil" - instead, we should present the facts in a clear and coherent manner, and allow people to draw their own conclusions.
Thanks for taking care of her. I just gave up, and was pretty damned certain that that `tangerine' was a sock-puppet, but didn't want to make any wild accusations lest I draw further wrath upon myself. Power to your elbows. Rosenkreuz 15:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Jay, the negative comment solicitation by User:Abu ali, which you had described on WP/ANI as harassment, has an interesting twist: Abu Ali also posted the same comment solicitation on the Talk page of an article I had been editing - Talk:Oliver Kamm. As this is clearly inappropriate material for an article's Talk page, I removed it. Now, one of the editors there is continuing the harassment by re-inserting the solicitation over and over into the Talk page. I was hoping some explanation from an experienced admin about why that action is harassment as well might help him stop his actions. Isarig 16:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Can we resume mediating? Thanks. --Shamir1 01:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I was very surprized that Fred Bauder (talk · contribs) supported UninvitedCompany (talk · contribs)'s motion to have me banned from the Sathya Sai Baba related articles for one year. I thought that I had received a complete amnesty for my possibly bad edits in Sathya Sai Baba and related articles in the first arbitration case. Banned for what? I would be surprized if anybody can find just one single edit that seriously violated Wikipedia policies after the first arbitration case. And I would very surprized if somebody was able to find that I repeatedly seriously violated Wikipedia policies after the first abritration case. Andries 01:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
User:DisposableAccount2. He made an edit to Diocletian, and the provocative user name prompted me to investigate further. I see you previously blocked #1. Dppowell 19:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
hello Jayjg. i came across the page Lancet surveys of mortality before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq recently and noticed that it looked rather POV to me. evidently user Timeshifter has been strongly POV-pushing. a fair chunk of this consists of inserting large amounts of direct quotes from the Lancet surveys themselves or from articles that the Lancet people wrote to justify their extremely high death figures. this allows him to say that all his material is sourced and restore any deletions using the justification "do not delete sourced material", but in practice it projects a strong POV since the material overwhelms any attempt to construct an objective article. i tried to delete a particularly obvious case of this, but it was immediately reverted. Timeshifter shows a willingness to wikilawyer and has a whole lot more energy than me to devote to this. i'm wondering if you'd be interested in looking at this; i'm not sure if your interest runs in this area but it would help to have someone who is willing to take him on. this request to you was motivated by a request to me from another user on my talk page to help npov the article in question and combat Timeshifter, which i don't feel i have the ability to do. Benwing 00:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Your case for Mediation from the Mediation Committee has been accepted. Your re-agreement is required at the case page under Request for Mediation; prompt action on your behalf would be appreciated in order to commence the mediation as soon as possible.
If you have any questions about my contributions, personal mediation style or otherwise, please contact me at my talk page, or email me at anthony (dot) cfc (at) gmail (dot) com - all email communication is private unless stated otherwise.
Cheers and regards,
Anthonycfc [T • C] 03:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I have filed an an ArbCom case regarding your indef block of my account. You are hereby notified. -- Gnetwerker 19:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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Since you participated in previous discussions on Ivory Coast, you might be interested in the requested move at Talk:Côte_d'Ivoire#...Requested_move. — AjaxSmack 06:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I am very sorry that after you agreed to wait, he has not approved you now for mediation (or at least it seems). It is starting to look like the dispute has been abandoned. I asked him to get back started, but he did not answer much in the discussion. I do not know what to do from this point, however, my stance on his edits still stands. --Shamir1 06:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jay, did you open this user [16] on he:? Otherwise, it is an imposter, so we will delete and block. Magister 16:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
We have a raging edit war going on over at Ebionites. Please help. Ovadyah 18:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
You probably know that the Ebionites article has been locked. It should stay that way until this mess is resolved. I have nominated the article for AID. We badly need to get more eyes and helping hands on the article to prevent the abuses we have been experiencing. Ovadyah 02:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg,
UNO voted in 1982 a resolution that it was an "act of genocide".
The information has been added in Genocides in history's article.
I wonder if this fully respects NPov ?
See : [17] Alithien 07:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
User:CuentaDisponible "DisposableAccount", again, this time in Italian. Dppowell 20:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed this edit, and, while I haven't looked at the dispute I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow at your edit summary. Taking everything at face value and trying to assume good faith (like I said, I haven't looked at the dispute) I have to wonder at you characterizing someone who is requesting outside assistance for a dispute they are having with you as "completely false nonsense". Admittedly they didn't follow the instructions which are to leave a "brief, neutral statement", but still... ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Can you move Beth midrash to Beit midrash over the redirect, please? The latter is the most common spelling.
Also, I proposed two moves recently and posted them on WP:JEW, but not enough people have joined the discussion to build consensus. I would appreciate if you could comment on their respective talk pages. They are: Aharon Leib Shteinman --> Aharon Leib Steinman and Joseph Soloveitchik --> Joseph B. Soloveitchik. Thanks, DLandTALK 05:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Please see the outcome of checkuser at [18]. I'm having trouble understanding how it is possible that WP does not have Ptmccain records if WP intended to ban the user indefinately. Please enlighten me if you can. Thanks! Keesiewonder 10:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Just a heads up. You had blocked this user for a week. He's spent most of the night blanking his talk page. Thought you might want to take a look. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 12:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
In the quote you added should it be "But that is grossly leading." or "grossly misleading."? You need not reply to this, because if you do not make an edit I'll assume your version is correct. --Philip Baird Shearer 16:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
As you have helpfully improved this article in the past, I'd like your input in the debate at Talk:Israeli-Palestinian_conflict#Ancient_Conflict. User:Benjiwolf claims that the following assertions should be in the main article:
--GHcool 06:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Good evening (GMT time); I am just writing to you to receive clarification of your participation in the above mediation case - do you still wish to participate?
I ask you to reconsider if you are refusing participation, especially if it is because User:Stevertigo is around; also, please note that he has not participated at all in the case, and I do not forsee him doing so.
Kindest regards and hoping you are well,
Anthonycfc [T • C] 20:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. In all honesty, I hope it did some good (well, at least editors are talking now, instead of blindly reverting each other). best regards, --Asteriontalk 21:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I posted a complaint on AN/I here against NazireneMystic. Maybe I'm being overly-sensitive, but I feel that being purposely referred to by the name of the Diety is blasphemy and extremely offensive. Apparently, some admins don't agree. I don't think being told to suck it up is the right answer. Also, my protest against accusations of fraud continues to be ignored. I'm used to incivility, but imho, this stuff is over the top. Ovadyah 18:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 20:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Please be informed that a request for comments has been started. Beit Or 20:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Zionist Occupation Government, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible..V. -- (TalkEmail) 21:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Jay, for your support at my RfA. I learned a lot from you, so your comment was very much appreciated. I've withdrawn on this occasion to give myself some time to contemplate all the advice I received. Thanks again. Jakew 16:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jay, I am trying to clean up headers from this list as far as ethnicity. Can you let me know if this is a problem or concern. Thanks in advance! --Tom 13:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Good evening (GMT time); the other disputing editors have reached a conclusion at the above Mediation Committee case. However, your input is required to determine if the compromise is unanimously accepted, or if other compromises and/or DR methods require to be implemented. Ergo, I request that you post an agree/disagree statement at the above case's #Agree/Disagree: Final Compromise (2) section; comments are very welcome, but please leave them at the section that the Agree/Disagree area proceeds, entitled "Comments: Final Compromise (2)".
Kind regards,
Anthonycfc [T • C] 19:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Please see this, which I was writing while you made your revert, and respond on the talk page. -- tariqabjotu 04:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Help, there needs to be an concerted efort to save the Holocaust and Holocaust talk pages from being take over by JTpaladin and his alie Holocaust-diner friends! --Lilidor 05:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm having trouble with a strange anon at Holocaust Memorial Day (UK) care to help..?? Zargulon 20:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
JpGordon and Jtpaladin are waring it out on the Holocaust talk page again. A bloke resently blanked the page out and put up- "This is the angary Yiddisher's revenge!", and so on. --Longend. 02:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Jay, I wonder if you might explain your latest deletion on the talk page – preferably before deleting next time, but in this case a comment now would be welcome. The edit you've just reverted was explained at length on the talk page a full day before it was added to the article. It doesn't help that what you've reverted to contains one glaring factual error and much that is misleading besides. Thanks.--G-Dett 17:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Jayjg, I noticed that you had determined that User:Kgeza67 was a sockpuppet of User:Wik some time ago. There is a new user (by edit count) User:Killroy4 that is involving himself on the Michael Richards article in a manner similar to the Kgeza67 sock was previously. I'm not sure if you can do anything but it would be good to know if this person is another Wik sock. If you're inclined to respond to this message I invite you to do so here. Thanks. (→Netscott) 18:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Of course he's a sockpuppet, but the technical evidence doesn't point to Kgeza67. Jayjg (talk) 23:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it was him. I didn't realize the original had already been blocked, so I didn't block the socks. I've blocked KramerCosmo now, and a couple of others. Jayjg (talk) 03:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Jayjg Kgeza67's back with the latest sockpuppet: Dfiukdn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). (→Netscott) 00:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Mad Jack, I am back AGAIN :) Iam getting into a little tizzy with Epee over using Jewish-American in the laed sentence on EVERY fencer he has created. He says because they are in the Jewish Hall of fame, that should sufice. I say no, lets keep Jewish-American out of the lead sentence. Anyways, I am not going to edit/revert at this point. I appreciate and respect your work as always. Cheers --Tom 14:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC) ps I will also copy Jayjg on this.
If someone repeatedly and blatantly lies about what I have said, using quotation marks to cite phrases I never used, even after being told that no criticism was implied and that I didn't say what he claims, and will not stop even though asked repeatedly and politely, what would you suggest as a course of action for me? After about the fifth time, it seemed that his purpose was to provoke me, and I got fed up with it and said the only even mildly aggressive thing I have said on the matter (which you found). I am a relatively inexperienced user, so I'm open to advice in this situation. I have selected "Watch this page" if you want to respond here. -Exucmember 19:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Dear ArbComm Member of Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University;
This note is to bring to your attention two issues which are creating upheaval in the article located here [20]and placed on probation under the premise of "Any user may request review by members of the Arbitration Committee."[21]. This request is based on enforcement or remedies stated in the arbitration process and failure to follow up on it.
1) An article-banned user [22] orchestrated a come back through proxy IPs from Japan and then through an account "Some people" which has been blocked twice. The problem with this is that this user had modified the entire article in less than 12 hours on January 28 2007. This user partner, TalkAbout; acted in synchrony with 244 on that night and made some changes as well using "Some people" new version. User Andries had a minor edit of that version as well.
Request to investigate user Some people [23] Analysis of situation [24] Suspicion of sockpuppet account [25] Blocks to user Some people for "a reincarnation of the editor who formerly posted from the IP address 195.82.106.244"( As admin Thatcher put it) [26]
2) The only admin we've dealing with is Thatcher131. I would like to bring to your attention what I consider to be "lack of neutrality" and fairness from his/her part. Even though, user "Some people" was blocked by Thatcher131 under a strong suspicion of him being user 244 (banned by the ArbComm for a year) Thatcher131 supported the new version of the page which are the versions of a banned user.[27] A request for enforcement of arbitration has been submitted long time ago before user 195.82.106.244 (aka 244) made several changes through his sockpuppet account "Some people" [28] but the request is still sitting there.
User "Some people" transformed the article with over 30 + entries on 22:41 28 Jan 2007 [29] and then User TalkAbout added some content and at that point, that was considered the new "good version" of the article.
I would like to request the following: 1) the article to be reverted to a state before "Some people" took over. 2) To change the "admin in charge", Thatcher131 to someone who is not emotionally involved in this issue (Thatcher131 was the clerk in the arbitration case and helped user 195.82.106.244 to file the case and presented some evidence against me but not against 244[30])and that could enforce normal wikipedia procedures are taking place. I appreciate your time and prompt consideration on this.
Truly Yours, avyakt7 21:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I have replied on my talk page, in the interest of keeping the conversation together, could you please have a look, and reply back. Thanks! (link to section —— Eagle 101 (Need help?) 03:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you clarify something for me? You called my block clearly improper. I've blocked other editors before who deleted properly cited material regardless of whether a content dispute was ongoing. This is the first time that type of decision has raised a controversy on a noticeboard: it had been my understanding that this type of block was comparable to a block for reverting four times in one day - straightforward enough to separate from surrounding issues. If I've made a mistake here then I've probably erred in other circumstances and I'd appreciate a clear distinction. Please reply at my talk page. Respectfully, DurovaCharge! 00:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could help stop this move war. You yourself helped build the consensus of "American Jews" and User:Haber is not honoring this -- and it's getting frustrating to keep going back and forth with him alone. Thanks, DLandTALK 14:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
...has posted several unblock requests, having failed utterly to grasp the simple instructions provided. However, one must AGF an' all... so please can you look at the block on the IP address 68.5.96.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and judge if you think this is okay to lift/soften/etc or whether this is the same person. Thank you! 〈REDVEЯS〉 20:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
The email to that list bounced since I don't have permission to send emails to it. JoshuaZ 21:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I blocked him for 3RR. That said, given the nature of the other entries in the list I have trouble seeing why an Israeli entry shouldn't be there (especially given how prevalent these accusations are) and I would suggest that a compromise version be hammered out on the talk page. JoshuaZ 21:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
i wasn't aware that pro-israeli edits were not allowed[33]. *shrug*, if you know the information to be incorrect, you should state so and not revert with such a bias reason. Jaakobou 22:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey Jayjg, having been left a message by one of the IP addresses you've just tagged I was wondering if there is any conclusive evidence that these two users are the same? Honestly I would be extremely surprised if that were to be true... In my experience with the two editors I found little similarities (particularly when it comes to civility). (→Netscott) 14:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to keep unverifiable/unnotable material off this page and I'd appreciate your help if it looks like it's going to become an edit-war. I know you've taken an interest in dealing with this problem in the past.
Jaygj, what do you propose to do; add those names to the MJ Template? We're trying to avoid unnecessary bloat, after all, the prime example of which happens to be the Judaism template. People that want to read about the subject are going to have to see those names somewhere. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia at this point yet, so I am trying to know how to put an article (legitimately) back up; can you tell me? Thanks. I'd like to get that article back up and running in a way that is somehow compatible with the strange demands of those that voted to delete it. Noogster 16:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Was that checkuser-based? If so, can you please say so on his talk/decline his ((unblock))? Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 21:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments on my submitted 3RR report. However, a closer look would have revealed that the prior instances of 3RR I pointed out in my report of Viriditas were done so to show a pattern of reverts. As well, the reverts were not "ancient" history, as they took place less three days prior to the 3RR I was reporting. These prior instances were not submitte4d as a 3RR violation, quite simply because I was relatively unfamiliar with the violation policy. I am really, really not trying to be difficult, or vindictive here; I think the policy should apply equally to everyone, and I presented an instance where an editor (who should know better) broke the 3RR twice in as many days, and yet it appeared that reports both before and after it (dealing with non-editors) were officiated both before and after my report. In fact, my report was archived without result, and I had to resubmit it again. I was not led to the impression that anyone aside from SlimVirgin actually looked at the instances, seeming to base their conclusions solely upon her notations (prior to my subsequently supplied pattern of violations). It didn't seem fair that someone who should know better should be given a pass on a 3RR violation without even a warning simply because they are an editor. If I could trouble you to look again at the instances I provided, both the initial ones listed in the complaint, as well as those listed as examples of pattern, I would appreciate it. If however you have done so, please pardon my unintended slight. Perhaps I am not interpreting the reverts correctly.Arcayne 22:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there an appeal process?Arcayne 22:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Wasn't aware of that perception, and it certainly wasn't my intention, as I explained above. As I wanted the conversation to be fairly low-key, I have removed it to archive, instead. I guess I am still not understanding how a report filed in a timely manner and not acted upon in a timely manner is my fault. However, I appreciate your input, and will act on your advice accordingly.Arcayne 22:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
please see my comments on the articles talk page. Abu ali 15:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Abenyosef is at it again. You might want to take a look at this. He's been told off by numerous administrators, and other editors. He persists in making edits that defy WP:V and WP:OR, and that defy the consensus that has already spoken (numerous times) on the issue. Perhaps there needs to be some administrative action here to put a leash on this guy. --Meshulam 19:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)