A couple weeks ago, you undid a revision I made in WP:MOSNUM with the summary "undiscussed instruction creep - why not use the symbols? they look a whole lot better to me." I wanted to point out that this was neither "undiscussed" nor "instruction creep". The fact is that this was already in the MOS under WP:MSM#Superscripts_and_subscripts and exists for a number of reasons. It was simply copied over to MOSNUM for consistency's sake. However, to answer your question directly, the reasons the symbols should not be used are:
At any rate, I hope you now understand that the instruction was not arbitrary, but designed to maximize accessibility to Wikipedia, which is what the Manual of Style is all about. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 01:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
<sup>2</sup>
and <sup>3</sup>
distort a line of text whereas the pre-made symbols do not. I don't believe anyone is suggesting that there should be one superscript format for 2 and 3, and another for all others. Use what fits best in the context. You do make a good point about readability in other fonts & by screen readers. Jɪmp 03:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)I wanted to give you a heads up that I’ve transplanted the most important parts from my talk page to here at Talk:MOSNUM. Hope to see you there. Greg L (my talk) 20:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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It turns out you're right, the prefix deca is used outside the US and deka is used inside the US. Unfortunately, NIST Special Publication 333 has it wrong in it's forward on page iii, which says
The spelling of English words is in accordance with the United States Government Printing Office Style Manual, which follows Webster’s Third New International Dictionary rather than the Oxford Dictionary. Thus the spellings “meter,” “liter,” and “deca” are used rather than “metre,” “litre,” and “deka” as in the original BIPM English text
--Gerry Ashton (talk) 06:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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Jimp, it looks like the voting at Talk:MOSNUM is going well enough that it’s logical to wonder how one actually gets a {delimitnum} parser function made. From your earlier posts on my talk page it appears that pulling this off with a template will be tough; what with complex logic and numeric values that may occasionally exceed 12 digits. You’ve written that parser functions/magic words are the method that will best handle this. Those are apparently written by “developers” (the programmers who make Wikipedia’s magic all possible). Do you know how we go forward? Is there someone at MOSNUM who tends to such matters and sees to it that “developer issues” are kicked up the ladder and addressed? Is that person you? And when would you know when to move forward? Is there a caretaker on Talk:MOSNUM who would advise you as to timing? Greg L (my talk) 23:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jimp,
I see that you've been very active in Wikipedia, and not only with writing articles. As one of your articles are currently under review for deletion on the grounds of non-notability, I wanted to suggest that you consider transferring it to Wikipopuli, a wiki that I set up to host biographical articles without a notability requirement. Indeed, given your level of experience in the wiki world, I'd be grateful for any feedback you care to give on the site. We could use someone with your experience! Thanks TheYellowCabin (talk) 02:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Jimp, This is Greg Glover
I come to you for some help. I hope you can help me or refer me to the party that can. I have had several discussions with Rracecarr concerning several different articles. However it seems he finds it necessary to delete anything I post within Wikipedia on the pages that discuss old English units of measure (i.e. foot-pound force). It seems he has deleted your and others work as well. I’m all for making something better, but to be honest; I believe his work and postings are counter productive.
Without taking up a bunch of your time and space, can you advise me on how we can make the Foot-pound force article more reader friendly with have to revert to whole sale deletions? If not, I think it may be time for an intermediary.
Thank you Greg Glover (talk) 16:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Ever consider it? Having administrator access would benefit you. If interested or not, contact me via email to discuss it further. —MJCdetroit (yak) 00:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
10-4, roger, got it, thanks. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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I've noticed you have been adding metric to imperial numbers. Thanks for the hard work. Something that might make it easy... I've got templates for all the conversions you've been doing. Go to my user page and look at the tempates there. They are cut and paste, then plug in the appropriate numbers. Remember to keep imperial numbers first in the case of American-developed cartridtges, Metric in the case of all others including NATO standards like the 7.62 and 5.56 NATO's. --Asams10 (talk)
As the discussion at WP:MOSNUM seems to have swerved about a bit, I put together the beginnings of a template ((DWT|number|unit|first)) in hopes that it might meet most requirements. I thought I'd give you a heads up in case you're still interested. I'll post over at WP:MOSNUM later on. Best. HausTalk 22:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
it's fine. what's important is that User:Twinkletester be the one who "created" (according to the page history) the sandbox, since the creator gets warnings from deletion scripts like twinkle, and you haven't changed that. —Random832 04:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to make you aware that I made a post here on Talk:MOSNUM regarding the new ((delimitnum)) template. See you there. Greg L (my talk) 22:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm not sure what you did, but since you made your edits to the above template it doesn't display correctly. I think you may have missed out a )) somewhere along the line. -- Roleplayer (talk) 01:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - have you seen Template:Infobox UK place/Test? It may be the ideal place to try out improvements to the infobox, without having to worry about affecting its display on thousands of articles. Warofdreams talk 01:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I created this template many months ago, I wasn't aware it was in use. Looking through it has been reactivated after an edit from Alexsanderson83.Londo06 16:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Your kinda new here so I will give you a break. Any massages you give a person has to be on their talkpage, not userpage. Also, I gave you a welcome at the top of the page. Welcome!--RyRy5 talk 08:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Good job on the MPGe edits. I had to redo some of your edits because I replaced the table. I think I got them all. Do you think a second table with the "max. averages" is needed? Ephdot (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I've got a first draft of the mpgge/MPGe template written: User:Ephdot/MPGe. I'd love some feedback in it's talk page about it. Ephdot (talk) 12:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I've opened the discussion on the MOSNUM talk page as you suggested. Have also given my reasons on the Convert talk page. Mjroots (talk) 08:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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About the deletion of the subpages of the template 10^, i didnt realize they were actually used by the 10^ template. So i took them off the TFD page. (I forgot to take off the tags...) flaminglawyerc 11:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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Ѧρ 01:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Do you edit yourself out of your own talk page, or do you really not respond to posts here? I find your talk page a bit confusticating. Didn't come here to complain about anything, I just find it unusual. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 10:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
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For righteously shaking your fist in the face of the status quo by implementing something as seemingly goofy yet inherently useful as ((convert|8|ft|5+5/8|in)), I award you this Strine "Tin Plate Barn's Tar." HausTalk 11:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
Your addition to ((ScientificValue/units)) has a problem, see Template talk:ScientificValue#New units feature for details.
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Ѧρ 16:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Is there a documented discussion showing not to use the auto templates or is this just your preference? Roguegeek (talk) 16:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Jimp: Here’s another important issue we’re (list of “we” here) trying to address: An article on advanced programming for software developers might best use “kibibytes” (KiB) whereas general-interest articles should adhere to the more familiar "kilobyte” (KB) to avoid confusion (see inception of the policy (scroll down) and here also). And also these:
Greg L (talk) 07:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
JIMP Do not edit out my edits unless you can provided evidence i.e citation that they are wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.87.8.23 (talk) 02:29, 16 April 2008
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Ѧρ 08:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)I can but can provide any citation of the existing text? If not leave it alone or the article is not correct or balanced in view —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.87.8.23 (talk) 10:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Section title just about covers it. Hi JimP. I noticed your recent edits to Lane Cove National Park. It really needed an infobox didn't it? Your edits have raised several issues or projects that I had put on the way-backburner, hence this section name. I'll just run over them to let you know some the directions I think some of them should take.
There are a lot of Australian and NSW National Park (protected area) articles that could use some love and attention (Lane Cove was an obvious example). Is there a project somewhere that you know of that is doing this?
I noticed that you used ((Infobox park)). Have you seen ((Geobox/type/nature))? I had actually been playing with it using Lane Cove as a test in my sandbox. Note that some the parameters there are garbage. I think the box looks pretty cool. Geobox|Protected Area is fairly widely used. Is there some wikiconvention that would break? I am still a bit of a noob.
Next beef. Hectares. I had tried to edit an article on a park in the US. The area was given in acres and square kilometres. I changed the conversion from square kilometres to hectares and was roundly smacked. I was informed that hectares were "deprecated" and not to be used in WP. After a long laugh and several hearty discussions I managed to turn three contributors around to see that hectares are perfectly valid units for land measurement. Then I thought only a couple of million other US contributors to go and rightly put that fight on the backburner. In my robust discussions on the matter I came across a now disappeared user (Bobblewik) who took it upon himself to "excise" hectares from WP. Lane Cove National Park was one such article. The original text was hectares and were converted to square kilometres in hard text. Most if not all NSW national park articles have received the same treatment. In some cases there has been a loss of significant digit information due to rounding. Note that most park administrators (NSWPWS, Victoria, SA, etc) list hectares and would be used as source for many articles. If you get into infoboxing park articles could you bear this in mind. When I have enough wikitime I would like to address national park articles to make sure listed areas reflect sources with respect to units and values of their areas.
Random musings. Feedback appreciated. Bleakcomb (talk) 05:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
The stuff that is going on at wp:mosnum bothers me. Surely policies should only go live when reasonably well formed and agreed. At least I thought that was what we required of other editors. What are your thoughts on this? Lightmouse (talk) 22:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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These have all been superceded by a new parser function. JIMp talk·cont 16:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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Jimp: You’ve been fairly warned. Just because you disagree with an outcome on “Follow current literature” is no excuse vandalize the guideline by placing {disputed} tags on it to show your displeasure with the outcome. The policy was extensively debated and the consensus is clear. Greg L (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I assure you I know neither User:Classicaio nor User:Wittiams. I have nothing to do with them. I, User:NotSarenne, was blocked under the false assumption of being a sockpuppet of User:Sarenne. I only picked the account name after repeatedly being accused of sockpuppetry by User:Fnagaton when I was making anonymous edits. I never used Tor. I never used multiple accounts. I don't know User:Sarenne at all. Since then I've noticed quite a few accounts getting blocked as "sockpuppet of User:NotSarenne". The truth is, a few of these were accounts that I created one after another - after getting blocked again to be precise. I wouldn't have created any other accounts but blocking the complete sub-network of my ISP leaves me with only a few options. Many of the blocked so-called sockpuppets, like the two above mentioned accounts, have nothing to do with me. I don't know who they are. Many of them were blocked for very little, things which clearly didn't justify indefinite blocks. Several other involved accounts behave exactly the same, if not worse, but they are not even admonished. The point isn't that it's unfair. The point is, this behaviour of the involved admins doesn't make any sense whatsoever. See also [[1]]. --202.120.139.211 (talk) 23:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, it just seemed counter-intuitive at first. Thanks for noting out the tradition :-) --piksi (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
To me, it's very obvious that DavidPaulHamilton is a sock of someone. All the evidence points to Fnagaton. But, apparently, the evidence I presented at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Fnagaton isn't convincing enough. Do you know of anything else we could present? I guess the odd mannerisms and writing style are not as obvious to someone who hasn't interacted with him very much, so we need to spell it out more clearly. — Omegatron (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I notice that you had a template entitled "User talk:Jimp/Measurement" deleted this morning. In doing so, though, the template transcluded the CSD request to any pages where it was included, so your Talk Archive II was also listed for deletion. I nowiki'd the template on that page to clear the problem, here, so your talk archive is no longer at risk for deletion. Just an FYI to explain why I was mucking about in your archives. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I have unprotected the two templates you named. After you're done, please tell me so that I can re-protect them (since they're high-risk). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The bot (User:Lightbot) is running. Lightmouse (talk) 00:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I asked a question of you about which subtemplates to target. If you would be kind enough to give me suggestions, I would appreciate it. Please see Template_talk:Convert#Bot_to_convert_cum_to_m3_within_the_template. Regards Lightmouse (talk) 09:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
That is fine. Can you also make a comment at Template_talk:Convert#Your_bot_is_damaging_articles. Regards. Lightmouse (talk) 16:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
You asked the question who measures knots to the nearest thousandth of a knot? The answer was the British Admiralty. Trial speeds in knots were always quoted to three decimal places. The figures were calculated as the average of several runs. As for kts this was the normal abbreviation.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
There are a few remaining sq and cu. They are:
Take a look. Perhaps we might want to deprecate the ones that have no usage. Lightmouse (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jim,
Can you proof read the following subtemplates:
They're for using the word or instead of the slash.
((convert|100|ft|m|disp=or)) -->100 feet or 30 metres
Thanks, —MJCdetroit (yak) 20:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
P.S. I know am missing some of the other subtemplates (like Lon), but I'll get to those later. I just wanted to make sure the code on those was correct first. —MJCdetroit (yak) 20:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Ds
codes and replaced the slash with an "or", right? One change I've made was to have the ***Aon***Son***
s redirect to ***Aon***Soff***
s since the adjective/noun form distinction is negated when you're using symbols/abbreviations.Ds
codes. —MJCdetroit (yak) 14:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)But wait: there'll be a problem with multiple conversions if we're doing things like this. We'll be getting things like "1.00 tonne or 0.98 long tons/1.10 short tons". This'll be tricky. JIMp talk·cont 14:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Some type of something ... JIMp talk·cont 15:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
When you had the templates Convert/MMBTU and Convert/MBTU deleted it left two redlinks in the Template:Convert/list of units/energy/Btu that is causing an run onn effect. I had a try at it but it looked as if I was going to make it worse, good job there's a preview button, so I left it. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Is Template:Ordomag supposed to be able to accept any expression (e.g., ((ordomag|1*-1)))? It currently fails in this case. If it is supposed to be able to accept this sort of input, I'll add some parentheses to get the order of operations working properly. --- RockMFR 02:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I would appreciate your comments here and here. Thank you. Thunderbird2 (talk) 18:39, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jimp. I nowiki'd two templates on this sandbox page; apparently, the user who created them requested that they be deleted. The result was that your page (and others) were also up for speedy deletion. You shouldn't have any further problem. FYI, UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Whoops! The one you want is now fully unprotected and I've restored the protection for the other one. Sorry about that. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
"(the US does not use the imperial system...)" That is not true, the so-called US customary system is just a local variant of the Imperial system, hence it uses yards, miles, feet and inches, which are Imperial units. +Hexagon1 (t) 08:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
You found a draft of something I was working on that got superseded by someone's much better one in mainspace... I've deleted it. Orderinchaos 06:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jimp, I can unprotect Rnd and Rnd/+, but I'd be more comfortable just copying code from your sandbox or wherever into the live template. I'm also leaving this to see if you are currently online...if so, then I'll go ahead and unprotect so you can do your thing. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 06:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Copy. If you wanted to set up sandbox page that listed all the code I needed to copy, I could to it for you if I'm online. If you have a sorta-kinda timeframe for when that may be, I'll make sure to be around. Also, thank you for working on this change...as mentioned before, I too share the opinion that the number needs to be raise. I have utter confidence, as you are the template king when it comes to this stuff :) — Huntster (t • @ • c) 02:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Hah, that's just fine :) I'm not sure when I'll be waking up (on break from work right now, so I'm enjoying sleeping in), but just leave a message and I'll attack. UFOs bearing tax forms are one thing...be glad they aren't carrying bobcats and velociraptors.... — Huntster (t • @ • c) 08:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Jimp, sorry I have been away; Comcast services (everything...internet, TV, phone) has been down in my area of town for more than a day...I'm on my University's wireless for a few minutes to send this and check email. I've got their army of trucks rolling around trying to figure out what happened. Heh, apparently everyone around here has grown to just "accept" Comcast's problems, since I was, by their account, the first to report the problem. Sorry, I'm rambling/venting. In any case, once they fix the problem, I'll immediately take care of the updates, if they haven't been done already. Again, sorry. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 18:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to point out that 1985-04-13 ([[1985-04-13]]) and 13 April 1985 ([[13 April]] [[1985]]) will appear the same way. Every user on Wikipedia can set their preferences to have the date appear whichever way is best for them, and both of those formats will display the date properly automatically. Therefore, there is no reason to go around "fixing" the dates when they will appear correctly regardless of which way they are written (at least in regard to the two methods given above). ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
ISO 8601 dates (1976-05-31) are uncommon in English prose, and are generally not used in Wikipedia. However, they may be useful in long lists and tables for conciseness and ease of comparison.
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Bad programming on MediaWiki's end, sure, but we've got to use what we've got. I believe the default appearance for those who have an account but haven't changed their preferences is the same as that for people with no account, i.e. whatever is typed in. I'm not convinced that "most of the world now lists dates like that", however, I don't see the relevance of this. As reflected in the Manual of Style, what's important is how dates are written in English prose. ISO dates are perfectly readable, true, but they are certainly not the norm in written English. Maybe the English language is behind the times but that's the language we're writing in. I'm no fan of the muddled-up American style of writing dates, I prefer day-month-year, but at least they're both normal English. JIMp talk·cont 平成二十年七月六日十五時四三十分
Jim—I see you're concerned about the bright-blue underlined splash that goes with the autoformatting function. An equally undesirable aspect for me is that the actual formatting works for only a tiny proportion of readers (us); everyone else cops the blue and the raw formatting, which is often inconsistent within articles because it's concealed from us. TONY (talk) 02:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I've had a turn-around, too, Jim—from trying to have it fixed to realising that it was stupid and unnecessary at the start. Designing a system that only WPians can see? Ummmmmm. So colour/color we deal with, but 3 January / January 3, we can't? I say this is computer-programmer thinking gone mad! TONY (talk) 02:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Soon after writing the above post, I turned my preferences off too. If we, the Wikipedians, boycot the broken autoformatting en mass, it might one day be fixed and even if it's never fixed, we'll reduce overlinking and bring inconsistencies & irregularities out into the light where they'll have a chance of being fixed. JIMp talk·cont 06:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
The Template Barnstar | ||
Your hard work very much appreciated in determining the problem with Template:Convert and getting the issue resolved. Londo06 15:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC) |
I think this template is having a problem. Can you look into it? BTW: I am trying to use Convert light year to presec
The display I am getting is
1 megalight-year (0.307 Mpc)
What I want is
I will appreciate your help. Sumanch (talk) 05:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
lk
and abbr
control linking and abbreviation (respectively). Try this.Hi, Jimp! Could you, please, look into this problem? You re-designed the whole thing a while ago, so it would probably take you quicker to fix this than it would be for me to first figure out the whole set-up. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Its broken again. ((ft to m|33|66|42))
--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't it working at Portal:Chicago/Selected article/70?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jim
MOSNUM doesn't deprecate; it merely no longer encourages lemon. I've already had one person say that it encourages, and had to quote this back at them:
Careful consideration of the disadvantages and advantages of the autoformatting mechanism should be made before applying it: the mechanism does not work for the vast majority of readers, such as unregistered users and registered users who have not made a setting, and can affect readability and appearance if there are already numerous high-value links in the text.
This is the stock text I paste in when reviewing FACs and FLCs that are pretty busy with links and could do with some relief from bright-blue-splotch:
It was overlinked (see MOSNUM, which no longer encourages date autoformatting and which now prescribes rules for the raw formatting), and MOSLINK and CONTEXT, so I've reduced some of it [or "removed the date autoformatting] to allow your high-value links to breathe.
Sandy has complained that the guidelines don't mention that the main text of an article should be either all auto-dudded or not at all—no half-way houses. And there's the slight issue of the hard space, which, strictly speaking, I suppose should be inserted between month and day, or day and month. Need to add a recommendation for that, too, at the three relevant pages (MOSNUM, MOSLINK and CONTEXT).
TONY (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
PS We still have the issue of the cite web template, where the techy guys who maintain it haven't yet managed to make lemon optional on it. This means that just about all reference lists at the bottom of articles have lemon. I don't care about the inconsistency in that respect, and hope that soon we'll sort out the option to switch off lemon from the template. TONY (talk) 03:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
PPS, Also, if you cleanse an article, it's best to insert an invisible editors' comment at the top: , to forestall any well-meaning reverter who may come along without knowing the new context. TONY (talk) 03:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Jim, you don't know me and I don't know you, since I've never had the pleasure of interacting with you, however I feel that I must thank you for all of the minor corrections which you have made to the mainpage's featured article, in this case "Puerto Ricans in World War II". I truely appreciate your dedication to our project. I wish we had more people like you making positive and contrustive contributions Tony the Marine (talk) 04:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd appreciate it if you could comment here. ––Bender235 (talk) 08:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
We had earlier been trying to settle on wording to use for a guideline governing the unit symbol to use for the liter. There is now a vote, here at Straw poll on unit symbol usage for the liter to settle on just what it is we hope to accomplish with any guideline’s wording. I hope to see you there. Greg L (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
If you have the time could you take a look at the template. Currently the elevation and distances have to be manually converted. Is it possible to adjust it so that the conversions can be done automatically, such as in ((Infobox Settlement)), but without breaking the current system. The current ones could be deprecated and phased out over time. However, because it's an airport it has some strange requirements. For the runway lengths the default should be metres first with feet second with the option to change to feet first for Canada and the US. For the elevation the default should be feet first with metres second and the option for metres first for the few places that do it that way. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 23:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you used ((Template talk:Convert/list of units/area)) as a cross reference. That is very handy. Is there a way to do the same thing but linking the cross reference just to a section (not the whole page)? Lightmouse (talk) 10:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
FYI: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#WP:MOSNUM. (sdsds - talk) 10:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for implementing solar masses at Template:convert. Much appreciated! —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 23:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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