I left some responses to your proposal at Talk:Lab color space. Overall, I think it sounds like you have a great set of ideas. So in the spirit of WP:BOLD, please don't hesitate to implement massive changes. They are long overdue. --jacobolus (t) 11:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
If those images you added to the color balance article are under a free license, can you re-upload them, and make sure to add a license tag? Someone did a speedy delete on them, for missing a license tag (I presume that's the reason). --jacobolus (t) 23:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Lovibond, please note that as per WP:ENGVAR, the Beer-Lambert law article should use British English. The original version [1] used "travelling", as has all the versions up until someone changed it with this edit: [2]. --Bob Mellish 02:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi again. Since the article has used "travelled" from the first version still in the database [3] (and in fact I'm pretty sure the article was originally written by me sometime in July 2001) right up until Dec 2006 (changed with this diff), I'm of the option that the "stable" version as per WP:ENGVAR is in British English. Thus the recent change by the anon [4] would be resetting back to the original usage. British English can use both "-ize" and "-ise" suffixes, so "normalize" is OK. You might regard this as all terribly trivial (and of course, you'd be right), but there is a slow creep towards American English in all articles when, in good faith, people "correct" the spellings. Thanks. --Bob Mellish 19:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the tone of your note. A great problem here is that the people who uses sources like this, only speak English, so they are forced to use only English sources. Many of these English sources (in my experience) say ridiculous things -- like German wheat beers must be top fermented by law. Why is it that I cannot find a German source to confirm this? Why, for example, does the wheat beer article in the German Wikipedia not mention this? Furthermore, German beer laws, such as the Reinheitsgebot, deal not with brewing technique, but with ingredients, since brewing techniques are a matter of tradition, not law. Very likely because the source either misunderstood or did sloppy research! (I am, btw, Dutch and can speak and read German and, of course, Dutch.)
Secondly, the second edit about the Belgian wheat beers, also from the same publisher as the German beer book, says in Belgium people ask for a "witte Hoegaarden" for example. Do you know what is wrong with that? No? Well, I will tell you: Hoegaarden is only a white beer!!! So, this is like asking for a "pils Pilsner Urquell". In Belgium (and the Netherlands), people ask for a beer either by name or by type, never by both. I've never heard this in Germany either. In fact, I've never heard it in the UK!
Imagine if someone edited an article about where you live and wrote something like "people there eat soup with forks" and then had a reference from a foreign magazine that you had never heard of. Because you live there, you know who silly this is and because you don't know this foreign magazine (perhaps it is a joke magazine?), do you feel this is something that needs discussion? I don't. The Belgian comment is ludicrous on its own -- you don't need to prove it is not true, anyone who has common sense will realise how illogical it is. The German bit is also illogical if you know German beer and German culture.
I wrote in my edits that the source was not authoritative and I thought that was enough. I hope from what I have written above that you will agree that these statements from this source are in fact not only not authoritative, but also illogical. As I wrote above, this is a fairly common problem here -- using foreign (English) sources -- that are frequently mistaken. Mikebe 11:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Shall I assume you have not read the text above? I can only believe that your reversion of the wheat beer article is because you have not read it. I don't find that very nice of you.
Secondly, I have already moved the information about the Reinheitsgebot to the German beer article as I said I would several messages above. Why then are you repeating it in the wheat beer article?
And finally, your explanation of why technical information is useful to enjoy beer is absolutely incorrect. And I say that as exactly the type of person who you claim would enjoy beer more if I "understood" it. The only people who benefit from this explanation are your fellow home-brewers.
I look forward to your explanation. Mikebe 17:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for the civil tone of your message. I don't know Mr. Daniels or his book. The fact that he does not know that there is no relation between Dortmunder Export and Märzen (other than both are bottom-fermented) is evidence to me that he is not a reliable source on this subject. Secondly, the question of American home brewers on foreign beers is not a matter of NPOV, it is a matter of fact. A fact that has been proved over and over again. I'm not trying to re-open an old argument here, but this has been discussed and proven several times (mostly involving the bjcp). Putting untrue information in an article is not helping to make anything better -- on the contrary, it makes them worse. Regarding the connection between Märzen and Dortmunder, I cannot prove a negative (that they are not connected), however you might take a look here (http://www.brauherr.de/sokams/biersorten/untergaerig/), which is, kind of ironically I guess, a German home brewing site. You will see there that both types of beer are viewed as distinct styles within the bottom-fermented group. I hope this will finally clear up the question. Mikebe (talk) 20:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad the question has been settle as it has. I think the article is better, but still needs work on the history (I will try to do that). Although it is not important now, you can also see that these beers are not related here: http://www.brauer-bund.de/bierfans/sorten/inhalt.htm That page does list related styles, but clearly Dortmunder and Märzen are not. This page, by the way, is from the Association of German Brewers.
I would like to end on two points: 1. the fact that Mr. Daniels is not aware that these two beers are not related is evidence that he violates WP:RS. I should also point out that this is not an obscure topic, but something anyone who knows about German beer would know. 2. On a personal level, I regret to tell you that I was very insulted by your idea that an American home brewer knows more about my culture than I do. An apology would be appreciated. Mikebe (talk) 12:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, Killing Vector. I wish you'd think a bit about your recent comments involving BJCP on the discussion page for Beer Style. Do you think there was even a remote possibility that the BJCP's description of Doppelbock was the result of a what you suggested? Please, this discussion is difficult enough without statements such as that. Thank you! Lovibond (talk) 00:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi. First of all, let me say that I was rather disappointed in you that when I corrected you about the BJCP director who had made the comments, you failed to acknowledge your error. Also, there are a couple of things I would appreciate your comments on: you wrote on the beer style talk page about what you called "sensory similarities" (or the Michael Jackson) sort beer categorisation. Isn't that sort of categorisation mostly popular in the US? I know it is not particularly popular in the UK, which is more interested in traditional categorisation. Secondly, you wrote that there were several ways of categorising beer, yet the article is only concerned with the sensory/BJCP type and ignores any other type. Would you support changing the article to beer categorisation instead of beer style and instead of listing only one type, list others as well? Mikebe (talk) 16:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
You wondered why I talked about the arbitrary division between Porter and Stout. I didn't want to go into a long explanation there. Don't want to bore the pants off everyone. But, if you're interested, I can tell you more. You can contact me via my website:
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/
The brewing records tell a fascinating story.Patto1ro (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lovibond,
I’ve been trying to re-write the HSL and HSV article so that it better explains their history, definition, and use, with decent references, etc. Anyway, I notice that you added some discussion of “Preucil hue” to Hue, with a couple of citations. Unfortunately, I don’t think the referenced papers are online, and I’m not sure quite where I’d go to find them – I could probably track them down in a library with some effort, etc., of course. Anyway, I was wondering if you know of a good description of the subject (that is, Preucil hue/grayness) online somewhere, or if you maybe have a copy you'd be willing to send me.
I haven’t found any mention (outside the Hue page here on Wikipedia) of both Preucil hue and HSL/HSV, online. So my guess is that the PARC researchers who invented HSV just came up with the same hexagonal hue geometry independently, since it’s a rather straightforward model to develop. But it’s also quite possible that one or another of them knew about densitometry and just copied Preucil’s definition. If you know any of that history, I’d also be curious to hear about it.
So okay, in summary: I’d appreciate any advice where to look either for the sources you cited in the Hue article, or for other sources which explain them. Alternately, feel free to work on the HSL and HSV article directly if you want.
Cheers, jacobolus (t) 21:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
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This edit is a perfectly fine equivalent for what used to be there, but I thought I'd comment that "an infinite number of" is apparently a completely acceptable idiom that can be use to mean "infinitely many," and it is perhaps even more established.
It is not hard to find respectable professional writers and experts in English language using the term, so it is not nearly the clear mistake your edit comment seems to suggest. I thought I should mention it because if it is something you habitually correct, you may eventually run into someone who gets their hackles up about it. I've seen that happen a few times and I can say that it's certainly worth avoiding. Happy editing, either way. Rschwieb (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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