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Unattributed translation at Trots op Nederland

Regarding your edit today to Trots op Nederland, I noticed the following similarities to the Dutch article, in particular between sections § Views and policies in the English article, and § Standpunten in the Dutch one:

Your added text (rev. 1069518252) My translation of the Dutch original (nl:59923507) Dutch original
The party described its platform under the acronym PRIDE which consists of eight main themes: education, integration, regulation, security, immigration, traffic management, social care, and development cooperation.[1] TROTS' program in its current form consists of eight main themes:[2] education, integration, regulation, safety, immigration, traffic congestion, health care, and development cooperation.

Het programma van TROTS bestaat in de huidige vorm uit acht hoofdthema’s:[3] onderwijs, integratie, regelgeving, veiligheid, immigratie, files, zorg, en ontwikkelingssamenwerking.

The party stated that it stood for individual freedom and that government policy should serve the citizen and not the other way around. In [all] these areas, the individual is central according to Trots op Nederland. All government policies should serve the citizen and not the other way around.

Op deze gebieden zet Trots op Nederland het individu centraal. Al het overheidsbeleid dient ten dienste te staan van de burger en niet omgekeerd.

In Verdonk's vision, a small but decisive government works best, which enforces the most necessary laws strictly and justly. Verdonk's vision calls for a small but decisive government that strictly and fairly enforces the most necessary laws.

In de visie van Verdonk past een kleine, maar slagvaardige overheid, die de hoogst noodzakelijke wetten streng en rechtvaardig handhaaft.

That means fewer rules, fewer civil servants, but more entrepreneurship and more room for self-confident citizens. The party also supports stricter measures against crime. This means fewer rules, fewer officials, but more entrepreneurship and more room for self-confident citizens. The voice of the citizen must be paramount. Crime, according to Trots op Nederland, must be fought hard.

Dat wil zeggen minder regels, minder ambtenaren, maar meer ondernemerschap en meer ruimte voor zelfbewuste burgers. De stem van de burger moet daarbij de doorslag geven. Criminaliteit dient, aldus Trots op Nederland, hard te worden bestreden.

Other policies include:
  • Reforming laws to allow citizens to defend themselves and private property.
  • Introduction of jury trial.
Some other proposals:
  • Citizens must be allowed to defend their own lives and property. ...
  • Introduction of trial by jury.[4]

Enkele andere voorstellen:

  • Burgers moeten zelf lijf en goed mogen verdedigen. ...
  • Invoering van juryrechtspraak.[5]
  • The top of the civil service is automatically dismissed if the incumbent minister or alderman leaves. The new director determines who will subsequently be appointed as new employees.
  • The head of the civil service is automatically dismissed when the sitting minister or alderman leaves. The new director then determines who will be appointed as new employees.
  • De top van het ambtelijk apparaat wordt automatisch ontslagen als de zittende minister of wethouder vertrekt. De nieuwe bestuurder bepaalt wie vervolgens als nieuwe medewerkers worden benoemd.
  • Choice of life imprisonment or voluntary castration of convicted pedophiles.[6]

Do you have any explanation for the similarity of the text you added to Trots op Nederland to the Dutch article without the required translation attribution? You don't seem to be taking the previous (five?) warnings about this over the last two years seriously. Notifying users Moneytrees and Sennecaster. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, can you show me where to notify them please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MWD115 (talkcontribs) 20:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it has been linked numerous times above, using the words "required translation attribution" or similar. To answer your question directly (again), the attribution must be added to the edit summary of your edit. The content of this field should contain the wording suggested in the example at WP:TFOLWP.
If you forgot, you can add this information retroactively, using the procedure described at WP:CWW#Repairing insufficient attribution. In order to do this, you should first learn what a Dummy edit is, and how to do one. In brief, a dummy edit is a way to add an Edit summary to the history of an article, without actually changing the article; this is what you need to do, to add translation attribution retroactively to Trots op Nederland. The following statement added to the edit history of Trots op Nederland will meet the requirement:

Content in the edit of 18:14, 2 February 2022 was translated from the existing Dutch Wikipedia article at [[:nl:Trots op Nederland]]; see its history for attribution.

If you have any questions, please reply below, and add ((Reply|Mathglot)) to your message. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:15, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing: your response above was very timely. I am not an admin, but I'm pretty experienced here, and in my opinion you were about one eye blink away from getting blocked, and your response above has probably stopped the guillotine blade halfway down the track. But it's still hanging there, waiting. As long as you follow up on your message and my response, and show that you are now going to add translation attribution for Trots op Nederland, and, more importantly, that you will always add required attribution in the future, I think you will be okay. If you ignore this discussion, or start to forget to add attribution again, you will likely be blocked. I don't want to see that happen, and I'm sure you don't either. If you have questions, please ask. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:24, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just checking in with you again: since my last message, you've made another dozen edits over the last few days. I am wondering if you can add the translation attribution for Trots op Nederland next thing you do; it's easy. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, thank you for reminding me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 19:06, 6 February 2022 (talk • contribs)

References (ToN)

  1. ^ Thema's Trots op Nederland
  2. ^ Themes Trots op Nederland
  3. ^ Thema's Trots op Nederland
  4. ^ Verdonk wants jury trials in the Netherlands NU.nl, 28 April 2008
  5. ^ Verdonk wil juryrechtspraak in Nederland NU.nl, 28 april 2008
  6. ^ "Rita Verdonk: "Pedofielen naar gevangenis sturen of castreren"". Het Belang van Limburg (in Flemish). Retrieved 2021-02-06.
  7. ^ "Rita Verdonk: 'Pedofielen naar gevangenis sturen of castreren'" [Rita Verdonk: 'Send pedophiles to prison or castrate them']. Het Belang van Limburg (in Flemish). Retrieved 2021-02-06.
  8. ^ "Rita Verdonk: "Pedofielen naar gevangenis sturen of castreren"". Het Belang van Limburg (in Flemish). Retrieved 2021-02-06.

Congratulations on your first attributed translation

MWD115, good job on this edit at Trots op Nederland with the edit summary, "Content in this edit is translated from the existing Dutch Wikipedia article at nl:Trots op Nederland; see its history for attribution". Now be sure to keep it up going forward, as you create new articles or update existing articles with translations from other language Wikipedias. (This also applies to copying content from other English Wikipedia articles, and the idea is the same thing, but the wording of the edit summary is slightly different.)

One minor quibble with your edit summary: you said, "Content in this edit is translated...", but in that edit, you only added the word "their" to the article; it was an earlier revision that contained the actual translation, namely, your edit of 18:14, 2 February 2022 (diff). When you come back later to add missing attribution from an earlier translation, as you did here, then you should change the wording of the edit summary slightly. Instead of saying, "...in this edit...", say this instead:

Content in the earlier edit of 18:14, 2 February 2022 was translated from the existing Dutch Wikipedia article at nl:Trots op Nederland; see its history for attribution.

substituting in the date and time of the edit containing your earlier translation that you forgot to attribute.

Various editors have been volunteering their time to repair the missing attribution in some of your earlier created articles, and it would show good faith if you could help out by adding missing attribution to some of those articles. You can find a worksheet about this here: User talk:MWD115/Articles needing attribution. Thanks, and if you ever have any questions about attribution or any other questions feel free to contact me at my Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 03:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know, I'll take a look at this next — Preceding unsigned comment added by MWD115 (talkcontribs) 03:15, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That would be helpful. The link is here: User talk:MWD115/Articles needing attribution. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:42, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ciro Petrone moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Ciro Petrone, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 TT me 11:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Paul Tucker (musician)

Hello, MWD115. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Paul Tucker".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 06:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Idol

Hi MWD115. I noticed you added bodyheightweight.com as a reference to Billy Idol last year. [1]. I've removed it as clearly unreliable and spammy. Please be much more careful in your choice of references. You may want to check WP:RSP and WP:RSN to help determine if a source is reliable. --Hipal (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks MWD115 (talk) 21:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution

Going forward, please note the spelling of the word: it's attribution, not attrition. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 15:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, I'll watch out MWD115 (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Manuel Mariscal Zabala

Please note that you need to put the following template on the talk page of articles you translate from Spanish Wikipedia:

((Translated|1=es|2=<Link to translated article on Spanish Wikipedia>))

This allows the history of the original page to be properly accessed for attribution - an edit summary is insufficient.

Thank you. Kirbanzo (talk - contribs) 20:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MWD115, just wanted to clarify that the well-meaning advice above is not accurate; you do not have to place the ((Translated)) template on the Talk page, although it is helpful to other editors, and a good thing to do whenever possible. (I do add the template to articles I've translated). However, as long as you follow the guidelines about adding proper attribution to the edit summary as we've discussed above, it is not necessary to add anything to the Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for for both clarifying — Preceding unsigned comment added by MWD115 (talkcontribs) 23:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That said, please use the proper form of attribution in the edit summary, naming the article, and linking it. We've talked about this several times, most recently here and here, and you've already done it correctly before, so please do it in the recommended way again, by including the foreign article name in the summary, and linking it. So:
  • for Spanish articles: Content in this edit is translated from the existing Spanish Wikipedia article at [[:es:<Spanish article name>]]; see its history for attribution.
  • for French articles: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:<French article name>]]; see its history for attribution.
  • for Dutch articles: Content in this edit is translated from the existing Dutch Wikipedia article at [[:nl:<Dutch article name>]]; see its history for attribution.
I hope this is clear, now, and you will use this edit summary going forward. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving your Talk page

Your Talk page is now 470kb long. This is waay beyond the point where most people archive their old discussions, if no other reason than to save you from getting cramps in your scrolling finger. Would you like me to set up archiving for you? Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 05:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mathglot, that would be helpful. Thank you MWD115 (talk) 17:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The archiving bot should pick up your page in a day or two, and start creating archives for you. It will only archive discussions that have been quiet for 30 days, and each archive will max out at 175kb, and then a new one will be started. It will leave a minimum of eight discussions on your Talk page, even if they are old. All of these values are configurable. The talk header at the top will let you search your archives, which is a handy feature. Hope this helps! Mathglot (talk) 07:12, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Mathglot, I appreciate your help with this :) MWD115 (talk) 16:10, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. One last tip: the archive bot depends on the user signature after each comment to figure out when to archive a discussion. If the last signature in a discussion is not signed and dated, it will never get archived. You can either archive it manually, or use template ((unsigned)) (or ((undated)) ) to add the signature/date, and then the bot will archive it. If this situation arises and you need help with it, feel free to ((ping)) me. Mathglot (talk) 18:16, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]