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Until further notice on perpetual semi-break. --Pjacobi 16:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Re: reference to Pons/Fleischmann "being pilloried" on Steorn, I added that because it shows Steorn took a huge risk - they have gambled their career and the prospects of their business. They wouldn't take that kind of risk unless they were sure about it. Which goes on to show why these conspiracy theories don't make sense. Didn't make the reference to say that it's a similar claim (I was going to edit "similar claim" to "claim")--Orangehues 22:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you immediately marked this article for deletion not long I created it. I've written a comment on the deletion page indicating why I think it should stay.
In case you are concerned, I am writing to let you know I have no connection to this device or the people involved. I am not a supporter of the device and am a sceptic.
My intention was to document the claims made about the device. If you look around on the web, rightly or wrongly it has started to gain some attention in recent years. I don't feel the best way to deal with dubious scientific claims is to erase them from history as they will ony resurface somewhere else.
I don't have the specific physics knowledge to be able to debunk this device with authority but I am sure others do and I am sure they will write their concerns in the article over time.
--User:kesfan 21:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
--User:kesfan 22:06, 17 Septmber 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just writing to acknowledge your comments on my talk page. I take that onboard. I guess I've just lost interest in this a bit recently. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I realize that you are in the process of reporting someone, but could you please use the standard format listed at the bottom of the page? It really helps us a lot in reviewing the report and deciding what and if to block. Thanks so much! alphaChimp laudare 18:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Why did you delete the whole 'See also' section? I was just reverting some vandalism, and I noticed your edit there removing the whole lot - a lot of those were quite relevant (e.g. causality loop, if you don't want to sort through them all I'd suggest just leaving it as it is, otherwise it makes a lot of work for people to get it back again. Richard001 05:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
You marked this image with the following three templates:
All three are incorrect.
The image is listed with a good fair use claim. It is the iconic image specifically released by the police in relationship to the kidnapping, specifically intended to be reprinted in the media. We're the media.
If you have issues with this image, you can actually list it on that page linked to above, and I'll be glad to discuss there. AnonEMouse (squeak) 13:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm in the Board Elections as a candidate; I'm having some trouble getting a German version translated of my basic statement, to go on meta:Election candidates 2006/De. Volunteers are supposed to do this, but they seem to be tired ... and there is 48 hours to voting. So, I am going to ask some German speakers here. Charles Matthews 15:11, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed your arguments against Dalitstan. Its not so obscure, infact the Indian government banned it, clearly showing its notoriety. The content matter is questionable, but the site can be used as a source for an example of anti-Hindu propaganda.Bakaman Bakatalk 16:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Andries 18:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Please do not violate WP:NOR. If there is a good source that says that someone is Jewish, that is all we need under Wikipedia policy. There is no requirement for someone to be a practising Jew.--Runcorn 19:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
You may want to read Who is a Jew?. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 20:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The sources say in so many words that he is Jewish. We go by what the sources say. Anything else violates WP:NOR. There is no requirement that someone must be a practising or self-identifying Jew to be described as Jewish. WP:AGF, I accept that you didn't realise that, but now you do. I do hope that this is an end of the matter.--Runcorn 21:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
For the last time, you are in violation of WP:V and WP:NPOV. Wikipedia reports what reliable sources say, neither more nor less. There are plenty of reliable sources that say that Cantor was Jewish.--Runcorn 21:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Re: Grigori Perelman. You have just crossed the 3RR line. Please do not do it again. You are alone in your arguments (not counting a novice editor and his sock puppets). Think about that first, please, before your next reversion. Rklawton 16:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi - thank you for your edits to the Perelman article. I happen to agree with your perspective, and with your comments above on bona-fide encyclopaedias. It is a relief to find somebody to talk to around here. Bellbird 19:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally, I have just started a discussion topic in the village pump, under "tagging living people as Jews". Care to join it? Bellbird 10:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Dear Pjacobi:
it seems the compromise you are suggesting is not being accepted. At any rate - isn't _defining_ him (in the first sentence of his biography!) as "from a Jewish family" the same as tagging him as a Jew? Aren't we, furthermore, imposing a tag on his family members, and determining that Jewishness is something passed by the blood? Bellbird 16:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Also - for what this is worth, I have no sockpuppets. Bellbird 16:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally - it seems apparent that some of the chaps on the other side are using sockpuppets. (Many of the recent edits are from very new editors (newer than myself!) without even user pages.) Do you know how to verify this? I would not like to make charges willy-nilly. Bellbird 16:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the message. Did you have specific articles in mind? Paul B 12:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
What is wrong with this image? Why to delete it? Is'nt it a fair use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JollyTheRoger (talk • contribs) Pjacobi 20:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I see your point. Would it save the image if I move it back to the bottom of the article, where it does discuss this speciefic interview? JollyTheRoger 20:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
From Encyclopedic Handbook of cults in America, by J. Gordon Melton. Page 143 and 144.
"These four techniques reveal the means of experiencing the divine light, sound, word, and nectar. To experience the divine light, one places the knuckles on the eyeballs, a process which produces flashes of light inside the head. To discover the divine sound or music of the spheres, one plugs the ears with the fingers and concentrates only on internal sounds. The third technique involves concentration upon the sound of one's own breathing. Finally, to taste nectar, the tonge is curled backward and left there for a period of time. Once learned, these techniques are practiced daily."
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksorg (talk • contribs) Pjacobi 19:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
User:Andries/Techniques_of_Knowledge#The_Techniques_according_to_Dr._Reender_Kranenborg_translated Andries 10:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources#Two_problems_with_using_non-English_sources_that_I_do_not_know_how_to_solve and Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Removal_of_text_from_citations. Andries 14:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
User:Andries/Reinhart_Hummel#English Please also check for translation, grammar, and spelling mistakes. Does the German "bis 1994" mean "until 1993" in English? Andries 20:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Good point: See : Talk:Blue energy, the point is also that the systems are not exactly the same in the DE and the EN version. Lets have a discussion on the talkpage reg. Mion 07:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Glad to see that you have made a start removing those silly infoboxes. :-) While you are at it: Bunzil has not only inserted those infoboxes, but I found out that there are also several instances where he copied text verbatim from Nobelprize.org or other places; clearly a case of copyright violation. If you have a chance you may want to check that out as well. JdH 19:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Guys, my bad. It is true there are some pieces of prose as you say. It was a good faith intention that they were merely "place holders" waiting to be rewritten. It was not the intention leave copy hanging around, however I got distracted by more pressing duties. Go ahead and delete such prose if you wish. Perhaps a good solution is if you guys could help re-write those parts, then we could all get it done quicker? Best regards, bunix 11:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Goodness gracious, Pjacobi. There is a reasonable request for you to desist from deletion until the TfD is complete. I admit that I would not have noticed the TfD if you hadn't deleted the infobox. However, I would have noticed the change a whole lot sooner (i.e. without historical digging) if you had simply placed a message on the talk page indicating that you believed that the infobox served no useful purpose. Bejnar 16:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi, I have responded to your comment at: [1].Also, we have started a discussion at [2] and would like to politely negotiate with you. Please can you also enter a reponse there. Best regards, bunix 11:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi -
I will probably put several categories under "Categories for Deletion" quite soon - today or tomorrow. Your opinions will be appreciated. Also - there's the general discussion going on in the Village pump. Bellbird 14:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Well - would you mind at least stating your opinion in the CfD page? I believe there is more support for what seems to be our position than you may think. Also - Wikipedia is becoming one of the main sources (alas!) that individuals have for information in the English-speaking world; this sort of issue is of importance. Bellbird 15:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Your “position” happens to go against wiki's policy of verfiability and reliability. Information may not be removed because you just don't like it. That goes against WP:NPOV. -- Avi 15:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
But one's background is important, otherwise we should remove all bithplace and birthdate references as well. -- Avi 15:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi 15:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi -
what do you suppose we shall do? I don't have many edits to my name (and they are all on this subject!) - thus it is doubtful that I can get anywhere alone. See my proposal on SlimVirgin's page. Bellbird 17:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally: I cannot agree with your proposal to let "of a Jewish family" stand. Of course one's immediate family is a basic formative force. If we are speaking of, say, Akiva Rubinstein, and we are writing an extended biography of him, it makes sense that we mention that he was brought up in an intensely religious household, and that he broke with his father over his obsession with chess (over religious texts...). However, as a tag, "of a Jewish family" is simply a euphemism and a statement about bloodlines. As a sociological category, in and of itself, it is worthless. What does a "Jewish family" (if that is what it is) in Russia in 2006 have in common with an Orthodox family in Manhattan in 1920, a Communist family in one place or the other in the 1930s, a Reform Jewish family in Ontario in 1980, a Polish Catholic family in 1970 - one of whose founders, say, happened to be "born Jewish" - or a Sephardic family in Israel in 1960? They share neither experiences, nor creed, nor language.
Shall we discuss the matter? I have seen that the habit of using such a phrase has been carried over to the German wikipedia. Perhaps a stricter policy has some chance of passing there? See the comment I recently left in SlimVirgin's talk page. Bellbird 20:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I asked whether your behavior at talk:Sathya Sai Baba is a violation of WP:BLP See Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Talk:Sathya_Sai_Baba Andries 17:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
i hope you stick around and help. we need it. r b-j 04:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
IMO there is little doubt that 84.153.105.61 (and 84.154.94.153?) is used by KraMuc, and also User_talk:PaolaDiApulia appears to be a sockpuppet (but it may be wise to let that last line of communication "open" for a little while). Who should I ask to take action? Harald88 19:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Since I have been banned from editing on de:Main_page for deleting nonsense, would you be so kind and check de:Kroaten from time to time? It appears that several people or sock puppets insist on the legend of the Aryan Croats from Persia. Fossa 19:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello
Based on the comments left on AN/I, I issued a 30 day topic ban to Mccready. (see Community probation log [5]) Discussion on talk pages is encouraged. Admins can enforce the ban if needed. Crosspost from AN:
Further discussion about the ban or request for enforcement can be made at AN/I or AN. FloNight 01:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for getting involved, I noticed it turning into a personal website advertising a church but wasn't quite sure what I could do about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jason237 (talk • contribs) Pjacobi 17:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC).
Hey Jacob I have done this page from the scratch. I would like you to have a look at it and then may be you could do the necessary. Rencin Matthew.rencin24 14:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC) Here's the link to that page.[[7]]
Hey this is Rencin. I worked in doing the page from the scratch. Now some unknown users are messing up the site please do something. I have just given them a warning. Will love to see you help in this page. have a look at this page.
Can you please also revert all the edits that she has made [8]. She has left an abusive message in all the talk pages. It would be easier for you as you have the revert button. Tintin (talk) 11:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I had a look at Wikipedia talk:Good article candidates, Wikipedia talk:What is a good article?, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Good articles. There seems to be little discussion on mandating inline citations, and it seems to have been rushed before checking against consensus. --Kjoonlee 11:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Großmeister Jacobi, as I told Agne it would be very usfull to have the german article http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einzellage here. Without that knowledge the anlosaxons won't get ahead understanding German and Austrian wine classifications. Weil mein Englisch aber nicht hinreicht, eine wirklich saubere Übersetzung des Lemmas hinzukriegen wäre ich dir sehr verbunden, wenn du oder ein anderer Deutsch5-Enlisch5 native oder beinahe native speaker das stubben könnte. I like Burke's Peerage 07:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Why do you want to delete it? It was created by Mpatel and at a glance looks useful. ---CH 15:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Did you ask Mpatel if he knows that someone has added Heim theory to the template? I am sure he knows "Heim theory" [sic] is thoroughly loopy, so most likely it was added by some crank. ---CH 02:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know if you watched but I responded to your question about Chris Oakley, here. He has complained that my eventual actions in removing the link were unfair.--Jpod2 10:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I was going somewhere else with that thought originally (and then realised I was about to miss the bus). Guettarda 14:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Does the phrasing of the questions in the Cold fusion RfM sound, well, horribly slanted to you? Anville 19:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I was vaguely aware of it, but I didn't pay enough attention... If I had paid more attention then, I would have been less surprised now, so it's my own fault ;)
What I find ridiculous about all this is that GAs came up because there were good articles that were short of FA status because, for example, they lacked adequate references. Now GAs seem to have all the problems of the FAC process, without the redeeming factors (like a process for removal that doesn't make it trivial to remove them, and perhaps more importantly, a benign dictator overseeing the process. Guettarda 13:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi, can you kindly look at this issue and comment on it? On the Shashi Tharoor article, there is a discussion on Talk:Shashi Tharoor, it appears that some editors think that an online email bulletin from a rationalist site is a reputable source that can be cited on the Tharooor article. See the bulletin here and the page where the bulletin is described as nothing more than an email bulletin sent to subscribers of the site. There is also some contention on whether or not an interview that has not been published by secondary sources or by reputable media can be cited. Tharoor's site links to the article in question [9], but the article itself has never been officially published. It is purely an internet source published on belief.net. See about Belief.net. Your feeback would be appreciated. Thank you. SSS108 talk-email 04:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
(Re: your comments on my talk page.) Thanks for your comments. Yes, a bot should pick up the pages I've tagged and add them to the stats. Most won't be categorized according to their class or importance until someone updates the templates, though. (I'm just focusing on tagging the physics articles atm.) Thanks for the heads-up about the stub bug. I'm tagging using a plugin that automatically tags stub articles - this seems to be a bug in that process, which I've now reported. If the articles cover most of what they're supposed to, then I'd classify them as B-class, with the aim of getting them up to Good Article status at some point. Mike Peel 22:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi, your mediation help on the Talk:Second law of thermodynamics was helpful, e.g. where you said:
Could you do the same for this problem: Talk page problems regarding original research and the entropy page. Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 14:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Peter, I don't want to deal with this myself, but can you take a look at the talk page? A KraMuc anonsock has violated WP:NPA-WP:CIV-WP:HAR wrt myself (e.g.: harrassment: he called for my being blocked). I am beginning to think the admin community has little interest in trying to enforce policies like these, since KraMuc is allowed to carry on freely, just as an anon (I notice he longer signs his pseudonym, but it is quite clear who this anon is). I have had no luck posting at WP:AN/I regarding similar incidents in the past. ---CH 20:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I should have commented, sorry -- I left a comment answering your concerns. •Jim62sch• 20:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Might I ask why you didnt notify me (the creator) of Category:Massacres when you put it up for CFD? I'm going to assume good faith that you forgot.Bakaman Bakatalk 15:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I assumed that since I the tag saved on the edit that I had the rights to use it. Whatever the case, being that the entropy page has been reverted close to a dozen times, by multiple seasoned editors, someone should have put a lock on the page long ago so that we could discuss issue properly on the talk page. There are so many issues that are awry here, e.g. self-promotion, intelligent-design issues, divine intervention comments and edits, using multiple reference links to the same website over using standard article or textbook references, using months and 100s of kilobytes of talk page space to debate someone’s pet theory, using talk page space to argue that laws of science are false, etc., that this whole situation is making a mockery the Wikipedia science section. --Sadi Carnot 11:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Peter, I have no experience with putting articles up for RfD nor time to do so; but if you put it up for RfD I'll support that as indicated. Harald88 22:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 11:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for the comment and pointer to the RfAr case, very nice. I may not be able to be very involved due to lack of time but I'll see what I can do. Yes, I would like to think we can work together on cold fusion. My plan there will be not to revert, but rather to constructively rewrite one section at a time based on my old outline User:ObsidianOrder/Cold fusion redux. Let's continue on the CF page.
Your proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience/Workshop seems ok, but only because of this exception: "ceding that also ideas and theories ignored or thought to be false by mainstream science, are valid subjects for Wikipedia, within their own articles only". Yes, that is rather the point, isn't it? I wouldn't ask for anything more, nor is anything more required. But when people start rewriting articles about non-mainstream theories so as to completely not represent the non-mainstream view, there is a problem, wouldn't you say?
I would only add that what is and isn't mainstream is not as clear-cut, most of the time. If several nobel-prize winner physicists support CF, is it still non-mainstream? Granted, if you did a poll of physicists (or scientists in general), a significant majority would probably say there is no such thing as CF (but no such poll exists). If you did a poll of just those who have tried a practical CF experiment, the results may be different... probably 50-70% in favor, I'd guess (but no such poll exists either). Papers do seem to have some dificulty being published, but they do get published in very reputable publications (Naturwiss. most recently), albeit at low volume. So... what does it all mean? I think the best plan for Wikipedia is simply to report fairly, and not worry so much about what is and isn't mainstream. ObsidianOrder 21:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Please have a look at the dispute [11], before I start an edit war. If he hears it from two people it might be more convincing... Harald88 22:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi. I know the disputes on PS and vitalism have been hard to follow, and that it might seem I'm excluding criticism of chiropractic. I think that's not true, and that I simply support common, high standards of citation and referencing. See [12] I think that this is pithy, exhaustive and direct; it was constructed by myself and Dematt, a chiropractor, who works quite remarkably to the spirit and letter of NPOV. I have just come to appreciate that personal affiliation is no guide at all to NPOV and objective, careful research. Did any chiropractors object? No. They all understood that this is honest, fair reporting. Having leaned (hard) on some pages to exclude weak sources and anecdotal accounts in the past, it would have been hypocritical for me to support similarly weak cases from the "other" side.Gleng 15:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
If you mean is he pushing junk science, he's certainly not, intentionally. He might be characterised as pseudoskepticGleng 20:25, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh yes; I really don't see bad faith in anyone here that I've encountered, quite the opposite, people have different views but honest intent. IMO it's an overzealous commitment to a cause, believing the cause to be backed by WP. But IMO, he is just impossible to work with. We've tried hard to get him to discuss his edits first, before implementing them, and gain a measure of agreement, acceptance. This he has refused to do, while insisting that others put theirs to his scrutiny or risk just being reverted by him. Anyway, I'm gone anyway so it won't affect me at all - but really this is just the worst nightmare for WPGleng 07:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
If you have view on this please go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Quantum_theory and cast your vote / make your opinions known. --Michael C. Price talk 06:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey Pjacobi, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:46, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I've rewritten Heim theory to make it more NPOV. If you've time, keep an eye on the article. I've removed some content about some irrelevant details of the theory. There is no point in quoting impressive looking formulas if it can't be explained where they come from and how they should be used. Count Iblis 21:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Since I was banned from editing de, because I dared to revert an IP revert on an edit that I explained at length with no replies:
Since paradigms are incommensurable according to Kuhn, we can never be sure, if the current paradigm explains nature properly: Hence: There always is a very high chance that that the current paradigm is false (we THOUGHT that Newton was right, but then along comes Mr. Heisenberg ...). Thus we are pretty certain that we are wrong ... Boom. Relativism ("Anything goes"). I know that there is a logical fallacy in this argument, but that's life: Philosophy seems to be full of such fallacies. (Disclaimer: I am fairly aware of epistemology, but my conclusion of the paucity of philosophy stems from my expereience with political philosophy). Fossa 18:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Schlechter Joke, ich wurde 3 Mal von Markus Mueller wegen Entfernen des Satzes gesperrt. Fossa 18:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
That's interesting! I must confess that I never heard of Craig eventhough I know the Lorentzian interpretation of relativity theory very well, and IMO in any case Lorentzian relativity/Physical relativity deserves an article of its own, as I suggested to Biophys (see User_talk:Biophys#Non-postulated_relativity_by_Lev_Lomize). When you call Craig an "anti-relativist" I suppose you mean his philosophy and not his physics (what on earth is Neo-Lorentzian?! Next we're bound to get "Neo-Einsteinian" as well...).
Note: I still have in mind to get ahead with the replacement for the trashed anti-relativity article, and it's not clear to me if Craig should be mentioned in an article about criticism on relativity theory. . I was held up for a while due to other occupations and because I needed time to figure out how to deal with citations to scientifically unreliabale sources for verifiability, without suggesting that they are reliable - but that's all clear now.
Regards, Harald88 23:46, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi,
I came across the article Einstein synchronisation
I have two questions:
What is meant by the statement: "One can easily forget that it is only a convention (see Relativity of simultaneity)."? How is the Einstein synchronisation procedure supposed to be just a convention?
Why is it claimed that "The same synchronisation is achieved by "slowly" transporting a third clock from clock 1 to clock 2, in the limit of vanishing transport velocity." Why this restriction to vanishing transport velocity? Any transporting velocity will do. It may make the calculations harder, but that's it.
Most of the content of the current Sagnac effect article was written by me. (The section 'calculations' wasn't written by me, and I think it is superfluous.) Synchronisation of terrestrial clocks is discussed in the section Synchronisation procedures Of course, the Einstein synchronisation procedure does not apply in the case of the loop topology of that situation.
The Einstein synchronisation procedure is designed/intended for the case of linear topology. In the context of euclidean spatial topology, the Einstein synchronisation applies. The Einstein synchronisation procedure yields consistent result if and only if the two clocks that are being synchronized are both in inertial motion, and have no velocity relative to each other.
Clearly, in the context of euclidean spatial topology (no loops) the Einstein synchronisation is not 'only a convention'. To my knowledge the general consensus in the physics community is that the Einstein synchronisation procedure is (when considered in its proper context) not 'only a convention', but physically meaningful. --Cleonis | Talk 23:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
You asked:
Do you know/can you recommend:
Seems to be a KraMuc recommendation, which gives me some reservations. --Pjacobi 14:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
-> Amazon -> Many books! Among others: Der Marxismus. Lehre - Wirkung - Kritik as well as Handbuch naturwissenschaftlicher Grundbegriffe. => mostly socio-politics but also physics. Apparently right-wing and anti-SRT.
From http://www.politikforum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=130648&page=128
-> Hat Einstein die Welt genarrt? (Did Einstein fool the world?)
Professor Dr. Walter Theimer
[...]
He seems to first criticize Einstein's philosophy. Possibly insightful. But then:
Ein Beispiel: Die von Einstein postu- lierte "Zeitdehnung" (langsameres Ab- laufen der "Zeit" bei hoher Geschwin- digkeit) ist ein rein theoretischer Gedanke, der - niemals experimentell nachgewiesen - oft in physikalischen Versuchen zur "Anwendung" kommt, um dort für Effekte die "Verantwortung" zu übernehmen, die beim näheren Hin- schauen ihre Ursache in sehr viel konkreteren Fehlerquellen haben.
(Time dilation is a purely theoretical idea, never shown experimentally, many error sources).
Need I say that I'm NOT impressed about the physics?
-> in view of http://www.datadiwan.de/moch/moch_1.htm , there is no shortage of such books...
Cheers, Harald88 22:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi,
I have got to learn how to navigate through Wikipedia. Thank you for the welcome and quick response. I have no problems with abstaining from incorporating UFO articles with the Anti-gravity article. I removed the corresponding citations from the list of references after discovering your deletions. My goal was to provide a wealth of literature that evinces the existence of a nation-wide effort to develop gravity control propulsion that had continued for at least eleven years. The articles, books, and newspapers were free of retractions and denials. And, there were no indications of failure. It would not have taken eleven years to discover shortcomings in the gravitic segment of the Biefeld-Brown Effect. But, it would have taken eleven or more years to develop substances with high dielectric constants and/or invent high voltage, light-weight, power supplies. The engineers' success would not have necessitated flight for all. "G-cars" may be very expensive. If the flight characteristics of "G-cars" approximated those of documented UFO incidents, the Department of Defense would use them for covert operations and keep them from the public for as long as possible.
Best regards,
Tcisco 19:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Is this better [14]? I am afraid that my edits will get reverted very soon. I oppose reverts justified by lack of consensus regardless of the quality of the edits. Andries 16:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Can you please check? It is a translation of the German article added with
Andries 21:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi, your help and expertise would be greatly appreciated on the Sathya Sai Baba article. I know it is contentious, but it seems experienced editors are not interested. I would also appreciate your opinion regarding Andries attempt to cite material from books by referencing a compendium instead of the actual books he taking the material from! Who does this? SSS108 talk-email 20:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I have updates the Brown's Gas article with great detail and substantive secondary references. If its ok with you, I will continue to update this article to maintain and pursue a greater level of integrity. I understand that I am a primary source, but I have clearly references a variety of secondary sources to maintain my objectivity. Frankly, if reasonbale material exists in the article prior to my inclusions, I would have not needed to participate. But since no-one was able to add reliable, credible, or substantive information I felt it necessary for become involved. --Nseidm1 13:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
FYI, since you've shown some interest in the past: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Kdbuffalo_2 The Crow 02:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There must be a way of identifying a user, as the claim that subsequent "keep" votes, in the deletion debate page are sockpuppets of mine. Frankly, it is clear that my additions to the article are from secondary sources, because of the sited references and additional in text citations. Please do not look for every little reseaon to discredit my additions, as it is a shame that such quality, ubiased, and objective additions are the focus of such an accusation of "sock puppetering". Please verify the other "keep" votes as being done by a separate entity, there must be a means of verifying what is the truth. Nseidm1 14:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for finishing the cleanup job. I had no idea what I was in for when I closed the AfD last night. ~ trialsanderrors 21:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Just because a person may have a conflict of interest dousnt mean it is guaranteed they a users contributions will be self serving. None of my contributions are self serving, as they are designed to shed light on a very murkey and hitherto unclarfied series of articles. If you want to adjust particluar sentence structure, that you feel to be overly self serving, you are welcome to do so as it is not my intention to gain anything from my contributions other than clarifying the situation. Noah Seidman 20:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
If you think everything I post is crap, what do you think is the difference between Brown's Gas production and Oxy-Hydrogen production? Do you think a "special" electrolysis process is happening rather than what I have distinguised clearly? Rationality dictates that a person follow logic, and "special" is not logic is its faithful and unsubstantial. Noah Seidman 20:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Oxyhydrogen is mixture of oxygen and hydrogen. How it is produced is irrelevant. --Pjacobi 20:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. I just read your question. To make a long story short, wikistats are back. Cheers, Erik Zachte 14:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Peter, about the GRT solution of the Twin paradox, if you know another recent peer-reviewed paper that has a similar opinion about Einstein's 1918 paper but is better or more detailed (this is the most detailed one I know), please substitute it. And if it has a differing opinion, please add it (as you know, deleting one peer-reviewed opinion and then replacing it by a differing one is an obvious WP:NPOV violation).
Regards, Harald88 23:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Pjacobi 07:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
We have what looks like a "KraMuc" incarnation, but this time the person is of the opposite camp: very similar editing behaviour, however, not an "Antirelativist" but a "Relativist". Apart of picking up policy expressions that come in handy, he/she puts a deaf ear to explanations of policy (even a deaf ear to almost everything) and my warning to read the policies before getting into trouble was countered with "sounds like you are threatening me", so that I knew what would be coming. Good thing though that that person tends to write only short pieces of opiniated text. Of course, this is a newcomer, and newcomers sometimes require patience. But how long should we be patient? Harald88 20:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello - could you look at the discussion page for the thermodynamics template? (HERE) - thanks PAR 06:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
For the Arbitration committee. Thatcher131 02:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Dear Pjacobi,
Thank you sincerely for your interest in the article on the theory of everything. It is certainly a fascinating subject concerning the reciprocal of 0. I have revised your reversion so as to take away some inaccuracies such as the statement that "no theory of everything has held up to experimental scrutiny." If you'll please read dilligently and carefully my revision with all due respect you will see at the end I have stated that "if the wikipedia community is sufficiently pleased with how I have made this article more accurate then I will upload the video file showing my device which converts the energy of time itself directly into useable mechanical motion via the force of magnetism." Therefore, as you can see, there is experimental proof (and in this case it is much more fantastic then the recent claims made by Steorn, which may or may not be bunk). The wikipedia community cannot have this opportunity to see the experimental proof if they do not allow the article to remain in good faith based on their own understanding of the reciprocal of 0 which should be quite clear to anybody who seriously thinks about it. These things are important. Please see to it then that you do not revert this article and I will upload the video file as promised. You and all others owe it to themselves to see this for themselves. Thank you kindly in advance,
sincerely, Archetype —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.138.20.121 (talk) 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
sincerely, Archetype
Pjacobi 00:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Peter, some time ago you brought an article by Michel Janssen under my attention. I also came across a counter commentary by Harvey Brown, on http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001661/.
Regards, Harald88 23:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Peter, here is one more: I stumbled on an excellent paper on Dingle and the Twin paradox, it is by H. Chang, STUDIES IN HISTORY AND PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE 24 (5): 741-790 DEC 1993 "A misunderstood rebellion - the twin-paradox controversy and herbert dingle's vision of science". I am reading it now; possibly it doesn't contain anything new for me (I just skipped through it), but it's the only paper I know of that gives a good and fair overview of the Twin paradox debates (thus perfect as Wikipedia reference). Do you know it?
Hi - I recently completed a rewrite of the Thermodynamics equations page and there is discussion of whether it is appropriate. Your input would be appreciated. Please see
Thanks - PAR 02:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I think I pinpointed the misunderstanding. Priddy's home-page link had an misleading description attached to it. The link in question was not the index page. This is. As you will notice, Priddy said himself, "Welcome To Robert Priddy's Homepage". SSS108 talk-email 03:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Priddy has 1 personal website and 3 attacking Sathya Sai Baba. You just don't get it? Do you? Explore the link you are trying to include. You will see how the links have different domains. There are 3. Formerly he had 6 additional websites attacking Sathya Sai Baba (on angeltowns and tripod) and all of them were deleted for defamatory content for violating the hosting company's term and conditions. SSS108 talk-email 16:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I decided to have another try at en and it's going better than I expected: People appear to be afraid to delete sourced sentences. Nevertheless, as you can imagine, there are a number of activists in my topics (I even encountered the occasional Scientologist). So, if your watchlist needs company:
I don't try cults/NRMs themselves, as that seems pretty hopeless at this time, but maybe these lemmas can be rendered a bit more scientific. Fossa?! 15:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Your inclusion of critical links to Robert Priddy's websites attacking Sathya Sai Baba is a violation of an ArbCom ruling: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba and two subsequent comments by Admin: [15][16].
You have added these prohibited links to his wiki-page [17] (as well as in the edit summary) and on his talk page [18][19][20]. SSS108 talk-email 16:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
That is untrue. It does not matter who includes the information or the links, the material is not to be included on the talk pages or the articles pertaining to Sathya Sai Baba. It's clearly worded. SSS108 talk-email 21:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
FYI, as someone else pointed out earlier in the discussion, this concept is in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (as "backward causation - sometimes known as retrocausation") - see the link I just added to the afd Bwithh 01:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated the above category for deletion. As you were involved as the nominator in a related CfD in 2005, I want to make you aware of this one. Tim Shuba 14:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Lunokhod has made major edits to the the "Anti-gravity" article as retaliation for comments in the discussion section of "Transient Lunar Phenomenon." Lunokhod left a request for a list of transient lunar phenomena (TLP) that had been documented by multiple witnesses. On January 25, 2007, I cited the comprehensive NASA catelog by Winifred Sawtell Cameron as a source of reports by astronomers of the same TLP events. Also, I indicated, in the "Other Theories" section of the discussion page, the TLP article had omitted notable papers about wide area lunar luminescence. I cited the references. Lunokhod responded within a couple of days to those comments by maliciously vandalizing the "Anti-gravity" article. The history page does not yield any prior contributions/edits by Lunokhod to "Anti-gravity." His recent edits seem to be retaliatory and superficial. His expertise in general relativity history is very limited. I did record comments about his edits in the discussion page of "Anti-gravity." Please look into this matter. Thank you. Tcisco 216.125.49.252 14:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Priddy must have seen the discussion and now combines his anti-SSB website on his other homepage. Andries 20:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Pjacobi, on your vote to oppose the move, you wrote, "Oppose, the article isn't about the province alone. Split would be an option.". If you look at the request at the top of the poll, that is exactly what I'm suggesting. The idea is that we move South Tyrol to Province of Bolzano and then have a redirect from the former to the latter. Then change something like History of South Tyrol to South Tyrol (historical), and focus that article on the relevant history. But this page now South Tyrol has core content that should be on the provincial page. Even on the provinces of Italy page it points to South Tyrol instead of the Province of Bolzano. It doesn't make sense. Anyway, any problems with this route? Taalo 01:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
A revert is not an option. State the opposite. Fossa?! 22:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem! It would seem that nothing essential was changed on this entry, but I welcome informed collaboration, and editing that doesn't cut out the heart of topics. I will create subheadings later today, and delete the stub tag from this article. I'm considering how to weave in Discrete Lorentzian QG info, but I wanted to sub-divide first. I've been doing plenty of research on CDT, and have a promise of content review from two of the principle authors of the theory. I would be happy with input and edits, if you feel that you can improve the entry or delete meaningless crap. I tend to be too wordy, but this topic was too spare and cryptic before.
All the best: JonathanD 18:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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I think a rather major revert is in order, but I'd like a second opinion and possibly some support. My impression is that we have a user who is sincere, but misguided. I noticed the edits to this article because the (anonymous) user sent me a note on my wiki home page. I hate to reward him by reverting his article. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I see any better alternative. Pervect 18:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Alternative physics --Pjacobi 18:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Dnarby (talk • contribs) is continuing to rapidly add references to his/her Lorentzian Relativity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) article to Wikipedia. You might want to explain WP:NOR to him/her before too much damage is done. --Christopher Thomas 21:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I think we have a live one here. — BillC talk 09:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. As per your request, I took a look at Reddi's edit that you mentioned, but consensus at CN appears to be that dispute resolution should be pursued at this point. Would you like to comment there? Sandstein 04:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
you wanted me to say hello here... now what? --Hob Gadling 10:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I've responded to your comment.
perfectblue 19:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I've also responded to your comment about the Morlet wavelet. I'd appreciate it if you would put the reference and information back. I'm sorry for being a little abrupt with Requestion but he posts that kind of crap everywhere I contribute now. Jon Harrop 04:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I'd say no speculation about the motives of Jon is necessary (and for this reason should be avoided). There is only one relevant point: The research done in PhD work hasn't yet entered the established knowledged in the field. So bold inclusions of his conclusions aren't suitable for Wikipedia. My name is Peter Jacobi. I live in Hamburg, Germany. I work for a small manufacturer of medical equipment, predominantly EEG related. I hold a diplom in physics from the University of Hamburg, about a topic in Quantum field theory. Marie, does any of this really help you or affect the case? --Pjacobi 12:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey Pjacobi,
could you look at the article and at what Bodhi dhana is doing to it? I'm quite speechless. Cheers, Krankman 10:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for removing that line, it was really stupid --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 11:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying my best to bring down the tempers. Let's see if people do come down and start editing productively. People are trying to use citations selectively to their advantage. Citing some single author to counter a lot of subsequent findings to support a POV taking advantage of NOR is frustrating. It's amazing to see how even reasonable people employ all kinds of "work-arounds" to logic to convince themselves and others of their nationalistic fantasies. I'm myself trying to come out of this tendency. :p -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:09, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam#Rexresearch, comments? - The site was suggested for the spam blacklist, any comments? Femto 16:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I tried to reply to you but someone moved your comment. i had already typed out my reply, so I hope you don't mind me adding it here since it was really only directed to you. here it is:
Thanks and have a great day. Sorry you have had clashes with others. I know what that's like.LiPollis 21:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
[24] 3RR
Edit made by him, look in history: [25]
Look in older and newer. CINEGroup 18:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
you know edit warring is frowned upon. One look at the pages history can show you it is an edit war from 3 people. You say he hasnt edited in the last 24 hours (or maybe he stated that)( Today IS still April 18th 2007 is it not? [26]
I'm not surprised that 2 editors are having an edit war and once I bang both for 3rr rule (Which they DID violate according to the time stamps on wikipedia) that I'm barraged by editors all over from wikipedia. Is this a meatpuppet account or do you honestly NOT see the history of the page within the last 24 hours? CINEGroup 18:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I edited the page, but I didn't revert it. You are allowed to edit a page as many times as you want in one day. You just can't revert it four times. See WP:3RR. --ScienceApologist 18:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
NOT when you are in an edit war CINEGroup 18:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
If you'd disagree with this Pjacobi, I'm sure there is an admin who can plainly see the edit war going on and the continuos edits back and forth as 2 editors basically use that page to harass each other. That is not what wikipedia is for. If your checking for abuse, maybe you should go on over there and take a look yourself. CINEGroup 18:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
See my note on his talk page, in which I ask exactly the same questions. There's no sensible reply. Regards, — BillC talk 11:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
i am currently a bit busy so couldn't respond immediately on the translations. When i get some time I'll try to see what I can do. Thanks. Idleguy 10:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
In case you were wondering what started the recent attack on your user page and talk page, I'm afraid it was my fault. For some reason, some editors at Infantry (computer game) where I was doing some informal mediation misunderstood what I was doing and decided to launch an attack on my user page (see [27]). Unfortunately, they also managed to get the impression that we were sock puppets, probably from some old accusations (I'm surprised they didn't attack WMC, the usual innocent victim in attacks against me). --Philosophus T 11:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, if you want to propose several articles for deletion at the same time you need to place a notice in each article (WP:BUNDLE). Have a nice day! Pax:Vobiscum 18:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Pjacobi 21:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey there. I participated in the latest AfD for List of groups referred to as cults, leaning strongly toward delete. I don't see any way for the list to exist in that form (though I'd have a completely different opinion if there was a proper List of cults, although it might be impossible). Anyway, although the article does have many problems, such as editors struggling to apply POV -- that seems to be a dead end for any AfD. Focusing on the As you pointed out, it flunks WP:OR, but that is pretty hard to articulate that seeing as the article is covered in links to what seem to be reliable sources. Notability for this list doesn't seem to be given anywhere, only defense of notability for List of cults (which is a redirect to the list.) Anyway, I'm just looking for an opinion on how to properly approach the debate. Ichibani 03:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm in the middle of finals and paper-writing, but I'll take a look at everything and start digging through journals when the storm is over (May 10). I should warn you that I've not done any research in philosophy of physics. My interest in philosophy of science is mainly targeted at scientific method. On the other hand, I know of no Wikipedian with an interest in philosophy of physics, so I suppose I'm as qualified as any other phil-sci fellow.Simões (talk/contribs) 17:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. That was my first time seeing links to the site. I noticed it because the user had added it to East Village, Manhattan with no explanation, and was a highly POV site without context in the article. I can see how the site could be useful for some topics, though they probably work better as inline cites than as external link items. --Ytny (talk) 02:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Lieber Pjacobi,
danke dir für die Nachfrage auf de. Doch, ich muss zugeben, dass ich meine Mitarbeit auf de mindestens vorläufig eingestellt habe. Den Anlass findest du hier. Und mein Unmut hält leider immer noch an, wann immer ich über den Vorgang nachdenke, auch wenn dieses wahrscheinlich kleinlich ist und nicht die nötige Gelassenheit zeigt. Ein wenig lässt der Groll zwar nach, aber er ist jetzt noch zu groß.
Deswegen bringt mich dein Wunsch nach einer Stellungnahme zu Majorana in der Lesenswert-Diskussion derzeit ein wenig in die Klemme. Ich werde in den nächsten Tagen noch ein paar Kleinigkeiten ändern, vielleicht ohne Anmeldung. Ich denke aber mal darüber nach, ob ich etwas zur Abstimmung beitragen kann. Ich hatte mir nach der oben verlinkten Erfahrung vorgenommen, wenn überhaupt, dann nur noch Artikel zu bearbeiten. Wie die Lesenswert-Diskussionen ablaufen, empfinde ich als abschreckend, wenn Ansprüche weit über den Kriterienkatalog hinaus gestellt werden. Deswegen würde ich mich bei Joseph Carlebach auch zurückhalten, zumal ich selbst nur ganz wenig zum Artikel beigetragen habe. Ich fände es wenig hilfreich, wenn andere Benutzer, die wahrscheinlich nicht weniger empfindlich sind als ich, durch eine Lesenswert-Diskussion die Freude an der Mitarbeit verlieren würden. Herzliche Grüße --MrsMyer 09:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia bildet ungemein, und der Artikel trägt dazu bei - Naturwissenschaftler und Naturwissenschaften sind nämlich sonst gar nicht mein Wissensgebiet. Ich finde den Artikel schon deswegen lesenswert. ;-) Ein paar Kleinigkeiten: Ich würde unter "Leben" eingangs Segrè gleich als Nobelpreisträger einführen, auch wenn er den Preis vielleicht erst später bekommen hat, aber die Auszeichnung putzt doch ungemein und erläutert seine Bedeutung im Zusammenhang mit Majorana. Im zweiten Absatz findest sich ein doppeltes Verb "Er besuchte trat", eine Kleinigkeit. Ansonsten würde ich versuchen, lange Sätze noch aufzulösen und dadurch in Klammern eingeschobene Erläuterungen anders einzufügen, zum Beispiel bei "(...) Fermi (der u. a. ...)" So würde ich auch einen neuen Satz beginnen mit "Majorana beschäftigte sich dort...". Nicht ganz klar ist mir geworden, was "über Nacht" bedeuten soll - tatsächlich von einem Tag auf den anderen, oder ist es eher bildlich gemeint? Ich persönlich mag Abkürzungen gar nicht und würde sie möglichst ganz herausnehmen - ich habe gerade ein d. h. und ein u. a. in Erinnerung - , aber das ist nun wirklich Geschmackssache und hat mit einer Lesenswert-Kandidatur nichts zu tun. Wenn du mir ein wenig Zeit gibt, gehe ich vielleicht heute Abend selbst daran; tagsüber kann ich die deWP nicht bearbeiten. Kann man zu Vermutungen, warum er untergetaucht ist, noch mehr sagen? Das ist für Nichtnaturwissenschaftler doch spannend. Ich würde deswegen Sciascias Überlegungen in den Artikel aufnehmen und nicht nur als Fußnote anführen. Oh, Fußnoten statt Fussnoten. ;-) Und was hatte der Vatikan damit zu tun? Vielleicht würde ich die Einleitung noch erweitern und dort kurz seine Bedeutung für die Physik zusammenfassen sowie sein bis heute ungeklärtes Verschwinden anreißen. Weil es zu Feenberg keinen Artikel gibt, könnte man vielleicht ganz kurz sagen, wer er war? Zahlwörter wie 9 "Neben seinen 9 veröffentlichten Arbeiten ..." sollten ausgeschrieben sein, obwohl einen entsprechenden Beitrag von mir kürzlich jemand zurückgesetzt hat. Zum Abschnitt "Werk" kann ich wenig sagen. Müsste dort Majorana Form gekoppelt werden? Hoffentlich habe ich nun nicht auch schon gemeckert?! Das soll jedenfalls nicht sein. Herzliche Grüße --MrsMyer 11:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Das Fräulein hat's erledigt. Aber bitte noch einmal ganz genau drauf gucken, die Deern kann zwar Pferde stemmen, hat aber von Physik theoretisch keinen blassen Schimmer. Ein bisschen waghalsig ist es, die Quellenangaben in "Werk" runter zu nehmen, aber solche Angaben habe ich sonst in WP nie im Artikeltext selbst gesehen. Kann sein, dass diese Form den Lesenswert-Beurteilern nicht als richtig erscheint.
Bitte prüfe doch insbesondere im "Werk" noch einmal auf inhaltliche Richtigkeit und Zusammenhänge. Wäre ja schlimm, wenn der Artikel verschlimmbessert wäre. Wie gesagt, würde ich in der Einleitung seine Bedeutung für die Physik noch herausarbeiten, aber das hat sich Fäuleinchen nicht zugetraut. Und wenn Selbstmord wahrscheinlich ist, und so liest es sich durchaus, könnte man das meiner Meinung nach auch vorsichtig andeuten. Und wie wär's mit einer Andeutung auf Selbstmord wegen der Sorge über die Folgen der Atomforschung? Das wäre doch in der deWP schon wegen anderer Forscher, die sich keinen Kopp gemacht haben über die Auswirkungen ihrer Arbeit, ganz interessant.
Danke für den Hinweis auf den Artikel, hat dem Fräulein Spaß gemacht! :-) --MrsMyer 17:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Eugene Feenberg ist noch von hier kurz ergänzt, weiß nicht genau, ob es so passt. Und die Einleitung ist ergänzt - ich finde, das sollte so oder so ähnlich sein. Vielleicht ist es sinnvoll, zu roten Links wie Feenberg noch stubs anzulegen, der scheint ja auch nicht ganz ohne zu sein. Sonst würde ich vielleicht zunächst rote Links rausnehmen. Ist schon lustig, wenn sich eine Kapitänstochter mit Quantenphysikern beschäftigt. ;-) Mir ist inhaltlich noch die Fußnote zu Schopenhauer aufgefallen. Bei dem habe ich herauszulesen versucht, was ein Schopenhauerscher Selbstmord sein könnte und habe nichts dazu gefunden. Das könnte KLA-Kommentatoren übel aufstoßen. Dann vielleicht lieber herausnehmen? Mir klingt's so jedenfalls nicht ganz schlüssig. Und, wie gesagt, ist mir auch noch nicht klar, warum der Vatikan involviert war. Dafür sollte es eine zumindest nachvollziehbare kurze Begründung geben, fürchte ich (nach meinen Erfahrungen). Herzliche Grüße und good luck --MrsMyer 19:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Am schrägsten finde ich "Gu' Nach' für heute". ;-) Mit Marlene Dietrich (und Zarah Leander) kann man aufwachsen, wenn auf dem Dachboden Schellack-Platten aufbewahrt werden und man sie noch anhören kann, mit Dylan kann man halb erwachsen werden (und ihn nach langem Zögern, um nicht enttäuscht zu werden, am 4. April 2007 doch noch on stage zu erleben und nicht enttäuscht sein), und Pärt kann man spät entdecken und sogar persönlich kennenlernen, wenn es direkte Anknüpfungspunkte gibt. In der vergangenen Woche bekam ich noch eine CD mit persönlicher Widmung zugeschickt. Welch große Freude. Der Mann ist zu Herzen gehend bescheiden und brach beinahe in Tränen aus, als ich sagte, wie großartig ich seinen Einsatz für Anna Politkovskaya finde. Und zu den Damen der Vergangenheit: Anfang des Jahres besuchte ich ein Programm, in dem eine Sopranistin (!) mit rutschendem Kleidchenoberteil im Stil der 50er Jahre Lieder sowohl der einen als auch der anderen vortrug. Wenn man jeden Ton gespeichert hat, und das wohl bis in die persönlich endliche Ewigkeit, tut's ein bisschen weh. Ich habe nur noch den Pausenbeginn abgewartet. Das nur am Rande.
Ist völlig in Ordnung, ob Atom- oder Kernphysik - das ist dein Thema, meines gewiss nicht. Und rote Links dürfen natürlich sein. Jetzt habe ich noch nicht geguckt, was deinem kritischen Blick nicht standgehalten hat. Es ist doch schwierig, eine Göre in Texten wüten zu lassen, die sie nicht versteht. ;-). Herzliche Grüße und Gu' Nach' für heute --MrsMyer 22:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Kurze Meldung: Meine de:Benutzerseite ist wieder blau. Lass mich bitte wissen, wenn du Majorana kandidieren lässt. Einen schönen Feiertag wünscht --MrsMyer 15:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Welcome back! Ich habe den Artikel mal unter "Review" eingestellt. Ich tendiere ja eher dazu, dass Lesenswert vor Review kommt, aber anscheinend hat sich da die Einstellung auch schon geändert. --Pjacobi 15:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Schon entdeckt! LZ 7 ist jetzt auch im Review, nicht weit unter dem Herrn Physiker. --MrsMyer 22:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Auch gesehen. Also meine Theorie zu der unerfreulicher Diskussion beim letzten Mal: Benutzer:Lord Flashheart war einfach ein wenig aus der geistigen Balance geworfen, weil ein Zeppelin-Artikel mit so wenig technischen Details vorgestellt wurde. Immerhin ist ja noch nicht mal der Hersteller der Motoren angegeben etc. (ich habe mal zum Vergleich durch ein paar Zeppelin-Artikel gezapt). Dass nicht alle die Fülle der technischen Details als das wichtigste ansehen, kann in dem Moment schon einmal unterm Tisch fallen. Naja, Hauptsache es geht jetzt konstruktiv weiter. --Pjacobi 22:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Der Review hat leider auch keine Erweiterungen gebracht - präzise gesagt: Niemand hat etwas beigetragen. Scheint so zu sein, dass es außer meiner (mageren, was technische Details betrifft) Quelle keine weiteren gibt. Selbst ein Luftschiff-Fachmann, den Stahlkocher (mein früher Unterstützer in de) sehr dankenswerterweise angesprochen hat, und den ich selbst angemorst habe, schweigt stille. Ist auch egal. Mir ist wichtiger, dass ein Ereignis, das im kollektiven Gedächtnis der Region eine Rolle spielt, nicht verloren geht. Es wäre doch schade, eine Quelle nicht zu benutzen - für de:WP kann ich mich auch damit bescheiden. Übrigens habe ich Konzert I entdeckt. Ob MrMyer (der gerade außer Landes ist), mitkommen kann, ist noch nicht klar. Nach einer fiesen Woche (wichtiger Zweitchef, den ich als Raubolz mit gutem Herzen bezeichne, ist erkrankt. Ob er zurückkommt, hängt von vielerlei Faktoren ab, auch davon, ob er starken Willen hat und von seiner Disziplin, die Männern manchmal abgeht: Eine Pille macht mich gesund) ist die Freude darauf doch erstmal groß. --MrsMyer 15:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Mach mal! Ich wedele vorm Dom auch noch mit ner Karte als Erkennungszeichen. Es wird mit Sicherheit noch welche geben. --MrsMyer 23:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Eigentlich ist der so heftig attackierte Artikel mein persönliches Denkmal. Für einen Klassenkameraden einer Vorfahrin, dessen plattdeutsches Zitat kritisiert wurde. Dessen Nachfahr war mein Mitschüler. Ein anderer, R. v. B., hat mich bei einem Schulausflug zum eigentlichen Denkmal, dem Zeppelinstein, über eine große Pfütze getragen, wie es ungefähr Siebenjährige machen. Was große Gefühlsverwirrungen in einer Siebenjährigen verursachte. R. v. B. traf ich als junge Erwachsene, nachdem er früh fortgezogen war, durch einen großen Zufall wieder. Er starb jung, weil manche Krankheiten noch unbeherrschbar waren. Ich bin bei dem Thema also nicht ganz neutral. Ich sag's einfach mal, um hier deutlich zu machen, dass Artikel zu schreiben (war ja mein zweiter in WP), auch etwas mit Gefühlen zu tun haben kann. Mit meinem ersten] (getauft, konfirmiert, spät getraut) ist es ebenso. ;-) Ich finde, dass diese keine schlechten Gründe sind, einem Lexikon beizutragen. Aber dann kann es natürlich an der Objektivität mangeln. Herzliche Grüße --MrsMyer 18:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Naja, MrsMyer war schon als kleines Mädchen ein bisschen anders als Mädchen, die den von Mama und Papa vorher bestimmten Weg gingen - und geniert sich bis heute nicht. Auch gut, eine extreme Revoluzzerin war sie auch nicht. Ist halt alles Relativitätstheorie. Magst du nebenbei mal hier gucken? Ist ja vielleicht aufrüttelnder als ein Konzärtchen. --MrsMyer 23:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Stichwort Politisch angemessen oder nicht: Den Artikel habe ich nicht mitbekommen - ich wünsche dir auf jeden Fall stabile Nerven in der Diskussion. Aber die hast du offenbar.
(Bei LZ 7 hat sich übrigens gar nix mehr getan, abgesehen von Kresspahls Vorschlag, Karten über die Fahrt und Wetterbedingungsdiagramme anzufertigen, was ich nicht kann. Leider hat der offenbar einzige de:Fachmann für Zeppeline, den Stahlkocher angesprochen hat, offenbar auch kein Interesse; jedenfalls hat er gar nicht reagiert. Es scheint wohl so zu sein, dass es über meine Quelle hinaus keine weitere Literatur gibt.)
Das Konzert im Dom übrigens war nicht so übel, allerdings hat mir Arvo Pärts Annum per Annum weniger gefallen als anderes, das ich von ihm gehört habe. Der Abend endete allerdings nett und spät, mit einem kleinen Umtrunk mit der örtlichen Kritikerin. Was wir nebenbei ausgeheckt haben, erscheint eines Tages in meinen Memoiren. ;-) --MrsMyer 22:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Did you get my mail? J. D. Redding 23:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Pjacobi 09:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
If you'd followed the link supplied in the article http://tprf.org/Prem_Rawat_press_releases/Prem_Rawat_Honored_by_University_of_Peace.htm you'd find that the Rector Pierre Weil said: “On behalf of the University of Peace, I grant you the title of Ambassador for Peace.Momento 20:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Can you have a look and give me your opinion.Momento 21:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pjacobi, could you please undo my latest move ? It is the move to an apparently outdated name (see external link in article) Sarcelles 14:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Why did you claim that the image I uploaded to the Teletubbies page wasn't fair use? It follows the criteria for uploading an image from a magazine, and it helps to illustrate the article. Thanks. WikiJoeH 21:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
To use in the Hermann von Helmholtz article, could you translate this for me:
-Albert Einstein, August 1899
Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 15:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, as to context, the quote is the opening quote for David Cahan’s 666-page book Hermann von Helmholtz and the Foundations of Nineteenth-Century Science. In his bibliography section he has one Einstein reference (I assume this is where the quote comes from):
If anyone has access to this, that would be great. I doubt there is an English translation? --Sadi Carnot 15:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I answered your comment on the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michael Brown Okinawa assault incident. I hope that I can resolve your concerns about the article. CLA 06:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The Bus Uncle has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Jonel | Speak 20:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Entspricht der Artikel eigentlich den hiesigen Relevanzkritierien? Ich kann's nicht beurteilen - mich wundert allerdings sehr, dass es in de keinen Artikel gibt, auch nicht über das Gandhi Information Center. --MrsMyer 22:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Can you explain why you're tagging the article as such?
I understand the skepticism on HHO; that's clearly pseudoscience. Brown's gas is not - it's just a stoichiometric mix of hydrogen and oxygen gases, and it has a clear historical and industrial and scientific pedigree. Many engineering and chemistry professionals will be completely aware of it.
Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert 20:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Pjacobi, you are misunderstood. I just arrived at this page (energy) a few day ago. It was a new novice editor: User: Hallenrm, that turned the original 40-50 kb energy article into a disambig page. I haven’t done anything to the page. As you see it is basically how I found it when I got here. You might want to review Talk:Energy (physics) and this and this to get a clearer picture of what’s going on here. Later: --Sadi Carnot 12:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
HHO gas and Brown's gas were deleted, despite a majority of editors voting to keep. As an admin who voted in the AfD, can you comment on the deletion review? — Omegatron 14:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
In Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 12#HHO gas, you wrote: "WP:NOR was invented to show the physics cranks the door, now it is used by them to eliminate any counter argument from their articles.". Who were the "physics cranks"? Were they people who thought they knew the laws of physics but did not and were talking rubbish? Or were they people making valid scientific reasoning and were the people complaining about them non-scientists who could not understand the scientific reasoning? (See the next message after your message in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 12#HHO gas.) Anthony Appleyard 04:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Pjacobi for pointing me to the talk page about the Aethometry article. --Joesteels phd 08:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I have added a nice list of sources for the hydrogen fuel injection article to the talk page. Reliable Sources Noah Seidman 05:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I'm also Pjacobi on the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia. --Pjacobi 14:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
In case you didn't notice: I revamped the article entirely and it's now up for election in the lower of the two "least worst articles" categories. Fossa?! 12:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
The above titled Arbitration Case has closed and the decision has been published at the linked location. Dradin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and any other editor who is involved professionally or avocationally in the paranormal is cautioned regarding aggressive editing of articles which relate to the particular subjects they are involved with. Kazuba (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is cautioned to extend good faith to Dradin if he edits and to avoid including disparaging material about Dean Radin on his user page. For the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 03:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Peter, i hope you get this
Graham —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.136.194 (talk) 12:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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Aus welchen Gründen hast du Sylvia Dackelmann gesperrt? Ich bin nicht mit ihr identisch. Linespilot 20:23, 18. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
Michael Busch has requested a straw poll of Anti-gravity. You may want to add your comments. Tcisco 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Template:Sustainability and Energy Development has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.
I am a new user to wikipedia and I was wondering if I could get your input on an article that I have just posted. Any comments or feedback would be very helpful to me. Thanks. The article is titled Automated Quality control of meteorological observations. Or this should link to it Automated Quality control of meteorological observations --Amanrye 16:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
On my talk page.--CSTAR 20:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I noticed your debate on the talk page on Electrogravity. I'm not sure if you are sincerely interested in the subject. I guarantee that the frustration you are encountering is due entirely to intentional disinformation. I've noticed this is a common tactic, to take an open forum and mix in all sorts of specious and fraudulent information, which renders the communication channel worthless to any layman. Wikipedia is infested with this kind of activity. Electrogravity seems to be a touchy subject in some circles.
If you have been researching the subject for a while, I would be interested in a reading list from you in regards to electrogravity. Thanks, --Edombane (talk) 09:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Check: [28]. --Pjacobi (talk) 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Concerning your edit, is it acceptable to replace no support in the scientific community with no noteworthy support.. (without specifying any supporters or sources)? Greetings --Ponte (talk) 12:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Please understand that websites like waterdriven.com are a blight on the industry. That entire website is a "marketing" tacktick of the like that is typically seen in "make money online" websites!!!!!!! Any website that does not put the time and effort in to make it "reasonable", most likely has an unscrupulous agenda. Websites like that are basically junk, if not outright scams. Noah Seidman (talk) 03:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a big difference between the information, and aesthetic appeal of waterdriven.com versus waterfuel.us Noah Seidman (talk) 03:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your msg over on Cbrown1023's Meta talk page. For access to #wikimedia-admin you'll need to provide us with your nick on freenode, and if you haven't done so already have it registered it with freenode's services. For more information on how to do this, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration. Once that's done we'll add your nick to the access list and you should be able to join. --1568 (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Would you be so kind as to offer a third opinion on the (rather trivial) dispute here, if you have a moment? Thanks, Jfire (talk) 09:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
At Talk:Magnetic_monopole#Nondimensionalized.2C_SI.2C_and_CGI_comparison and Talk:Magnetic_monopole#Emphasis_here_is_to_the_symmetry.21 -- 12 February 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.107.230.53 (talk) 12:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Deprodded by anon. I don't think the "references" added meet WP:RS or WP:V. Dlohcierekim 14:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
--Pjacobi (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
--Pjacobi (talk) 23:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Colossally Abundant Number --Pjacobi (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hello. This article is now up for deletion here. Since, along with vanished User:Hillman, you were involved in reducing the BLP to a biographical stub, etc, your input would be appreciated. Evans himself has been editing his BLP as User:Carrot18 (he identified himself in an edit summary) and requested the deletion of the article. He also tried to put his CV onto wikipedia in a new article under his assumed Welsh name, but this was twice deleted. Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 10:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
hi Pjacobi, delete this monobook and an old too, please. Oxymoron told me, i need an other one. thanks and best regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 03:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I am trying Afd now. --dab (𒁳) 12:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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Any suggestions how I can find out why the German article was deleted? Thanks. dougweller (talk) 14:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Regarding this comment that you made back in 2006, there is an ANI thread now looking at the matter of several editors making bot-like edits to add and update those same links, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#editor_whose_only_activity_is_adding_links_to_arxiv.org_categories --Enric Naval (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I can't help much there. I've taken out or tagged the most dubious statements but until I find a decent book, there's not much more I can do. Munci (talk) 05:15, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Answered at my talk. Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
--Pjacobi (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
--Pjacobi (talk) 17:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
do you need this documents, Pjacobi? send me an wikimail. i have this two and the second part of gentzens publication, best regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 22:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Brown, Nationalist Imaginings of the Russian Past. Anatolii Fomenko and the Rise of Alternative History in Post-Communist Russia. With a foreword by Donald Ostrowski. Stuttgart and Hannover: ibidem-Verlag, 2009 (Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society, vol. 86)
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Not for fishing!!1eleven
de:User:Michael Lenz --Pjacobi (talk) 21:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Paracompact space, Sorgenfrey line, First countable, Second countable
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