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Hi Smith609. A few times while using the reference formatter, it has not provided the |title field for me, and I haven't noticed until I see the big error message in ref list. Is this an error on my side (user malfunction)? Also, a suggestion for a future version would be to have a choice between compressed (inline) citation template, or the expanded (multi-line). Some editors prefer the one-line version as it shows up differently in diffs. Cheers, DigitalC (talk) 06:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
((cite journal))
: Missing or empty |title=
(help)
Greetings, Martin. I run a bot named User:Polbot, and one of her current (in trial) tasks is to convert bare links to full citations by following the links and harvesting information. For instance, when it finds the link:
...it looks at the html at that link and harvests title and author information to get:
((cite news))
: Check date values in: |date=
(help)(The source code, in perl, is here.) So far it works with the New York Times, Time Magazine, and several other popular periodicals. However I haven't tackled scholarly journals yet, since there is a lot I don't know about, for instance, DOIs, and I see that others have already delved deeply into this area. Like, for instance, you! So I was hoping I could ask for some help.
Given a link to a rated journal, such as http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7566020, is there a straightforward-ish way to get the DOI, authors, etc., without plowing through the html for the data in different ways for different publications? (I have considered, by the way, submitting the URL to Google scholar search, as in http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpubmed%2F7566020, then parsing the html of the google page for the id ("ZazTb4xrtZ4J", whatever that is), and then submitting this to your tool... but there are problems with this strategy. Your tool loads some of the information in script after the page loads, making it difficult to harvest... and besides, I figure there must be a more direct way.) Any feedback or guidance would be most appreciated. – Quadell (talk) 03:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Smith. When I enter PMIDs or PMCIDs into the URF, it doens't do anything. It looks up, finishes, and gives me a blank output. I see a lot of "invalid argument supplied" errors at the bottom of the page. Can you take al look at this when you get a chance? I rely heavily on this tool when citing, it's an incredible time saver for PMID referencing. Thanks for writing it! Chaldor (talk) 00:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello, first of all, let me say ('cause I've never done it) that I have come to appreciate these little tools of your's for formatting references.
As for the section heading, I noticed that URF seems to interpret (at least sometimes) BibTeX reference names like aboitiz1992fch as being author=aboitiz, year=1992, journal=fch. At least the latter is problematic: When I paste complete BibTeX information like
{@article{aboitiz1992fch, title=((Fiber composition of the human corpus callosum)), author={Aboitiz, F. and Scheibel, A.B. and Fisher, R.S. and Zaidel, E.}, journal={Brain Res}, volume={598}, number={1-2}, pages={143--153}, year={1992} },
URF turns this into <ref name=Aboitiz1992>((citation | author = Aboitiz, F.; Scheibel, A. B.; Fisher, R. S.; Zaidel, E. | year = 1992 | title = Fiber composition of the human corpus callosum)) | journal = fch | volume = 598 | pages = 1–2 ))</ref> , while the BibTeX conversion tool gets it right as <ref name=Aboitiz1992>((cite journal | author = Aboitiz, F. | coauthors = Scheibel, A.B.; Fisher, R.S.; Zaidel, E. | year = 1992 | title = Fiber composition of the human corpus callosum | journal = Brain Res | volume = 598 | issue = 1-2 | pages = 143–153 | doi = 10.1016/0006-8993(92)90178-C ))</ref> .
I also noticed that the Scholar tool is currently not working, but I assume that you are aware of that. Thanks and cheers, Mietchen (talk) 04:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thought I would leave you a failure report from a free text citation, in case it helps you improve that marvellous "complete citation" box.
I pasted:
The Place of Y Gododdin in the History of Scotland’, in Celtic Connections: Proceedings of the Tenth International Congress of Celtic Studies, Vol. 1. Language, Literature, History, Culture, ed. R.Black, W. Gillies, R. Ó Maolalaigh (East Linton: Tuckwell Press, 1999), pp. 199–210.
I got:
<ref name=Koch1999>((citation | author = Koch, John T. 'The Place of; Gododdin, Y.; Language, Literature; Ed. R.black, W. Gillies | year = 1999 | title = In the History of Scotland | journal = Celtic Connections: Proceedings of the Tenth International Congress of Celtic Studies | volume = 1 | pages = 199–210 ))</ref>
which, to be honest, is darn close but no cigar.
Anyway, great work on the formatter and search tool: I use it all the time.
--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Should the ISBN be automatically reformatted with hyphenation? Instructions are here:
— Chris Capoccia T⁄C 07:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The OCLC field can only properly link to one number. Frequently, multiple numbers are found (for example, Lewis, edited by James; Sesay, Amadu (2002), Korea and globalization, London: RoutledgeCurzon, ISBN 0-7007-1512-6, OCLC 46908525 50074837 ((citation))
: |author=
has generic name (help); Check |oclc=
value (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)). The OCLC link would work as either 46908525 or 50074837. I don't know whether it would be better to only use one of the OCLC numbers or to change the various citation templates so that they formatted multiple OCLC numbers as separate links like this:
— Chris Capoccia T⁄C 07:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
citation no longer recognizes month =
instead, it prefers date = month year —Preceding unsigned comment added by Askmar (talk • contribs) 22:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I just tried
Gallup GG Jr (1970) Chimpanzees: self-recognition. Science 167: 86–87 ,
and the output included the line
journal = Chimpanzees: self-recognition. Science 167:
which is obviously buggy. Thanks, Mietchen (talk) 22:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Several searches which worked previously are no longer working for me:
Google displays a page with a somewhat odd message:
We're sorry...
... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spy ware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spy ware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software.
If you're continually receiving this error, you may be able to resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and revisiting Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your browser's online support centre.
We apologise for the inconvenience and hope we'll see you again on Google.
Do you know what this is about? --Teratornis (talk) 23:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Try this ISBN. 978-0262083775. Several errors. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Try: Trenberth KE, et al (2007) Observations: Surface and Atmospheric Climate Change. In: Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. [Solomon S, et al (eds.)]. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Try: Miller AJ, Cayan DR, Barnett TP, Oberhuber JM (1994) The 1976-77 climate shift of the Pacific Ocean. Oceanography 7: 21–26. http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~miller/papers/shift.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wcalvin (talk • contribs) 21:35, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Martin. I tried DOI 10.1016/S0140-6736(03)14117-7 and got Garcia, H. (2003), "Cysticercosis", The Lancet, 362: 547, doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(03)14117-7. However a correct result is García, H.H., Gonzalez, A.E., Evans, C.A.W., and Gilman, R.H. (August 2003). "Taenia solium cysticercosis". The Lancet. 362 (9383): 547–556. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(03)14117-7.((cite journal))
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link). I guess the italics are an unsolvable issue, but I suggest the authors, title, issue and page numbers need attention. --Philcha (talk) 08:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
After a number of searches (by far not all) ended up with a closed result form, I just tried the PMID sample search http://toolserver.org/~verisimilus/Scholar/Cite.php?pmid=16754615 which gave the same result. Could you please check? Thanks! Daniel Mietchen (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Very nice intiative, cerytainly needed.
I just tried with this reference, and it almost worked, but it put the authors as the journal name and viceversa....
Boyce, M.S., Vernier, P.R., Nielsen, S.E. & Schmiegelow, F.K.A. (2002) Evaluating resource selection functions. Ecological Modelling, 157, 281–
300.
Thanks
S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.40.213 (talk) 18:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Smith609,
I suspect this error has more to do with Wikipedia than your tool, but I thought I'd let you know in case you could easily program a workaround. After manually entering "Cristina Sánchez-Martínez and José Pérez-Martín" in the authors field, the tool generated <ref name=Sánchez-martínez2001>. So far so good, but when I used <ref name=Sánchez-martínez2001/> in an article I got a big red "Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; refs with no content must have a name." I avoided the error by changing the refname [1]. From playing around a little, it seems both the á and the í are individually sufficient to cause the error. Perhaps your tool could generate ref names with the form <ref name=Sanchez-martinez2001> (i.e. without the accents) instead? That would be easier for editors to type, too. I've no idea how difficult this would be, just thought I'd suggest it. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to add this to the new entry "William Arthur Smith" I'm not sure how to do this.
Here is what I wrote for a Citation:
It's not clear how I add this to the WAS entry.
Thanks
Kim Smith
Pascin727 (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
<ref name=Paone1996>
and </ref>
from the citation you have copied in. I have made both changes to the article (See them here); feel free to experiment further in the Sandbox. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 23:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)I am trying to work out how to build a citation for a difficult (but not uncommon) case of a work contained in another work. (For specific case at hand, Google for "Vogt" and "Origin of the Bermuda volcanoes"; this will be found in the publication "Plates, Plumes, and Planetary Processes". Which sort of looks like a book, but is specifically a"Special Paper" - a recurring but non-periodic publication of the GSA, in this case Special Paper 430. (Other scientific organizations also publish "Special Papers".) The traditional practice is to cite these as <title> in <work>, much like an encyclopedia article, and which is reasonably well accomodated using the citation template's "contribution" parameters. (Clumsy, but works.)
I was hoping the Google Scholar Wikify function might be of use in this regard, but that led to the Universal Reference Formatter, which failed, and rather sadly. I was hoping that the URF might be developed (a "small matter of programming". :-) enough to handle "contributions", but no luck. Worse, it got confused parsing the reference (perhaps complications with what is coming from Google?), and did some nonsensical things like putting the title of the work ("Plates, Plumes...") in as the name of a journal (which it is not), and leaving out the editors. It also put the paper number ("430") in as a volume number (which I think actually makes sense, but is contrary to normal practice). Using the DOI (which I would think should access the most complete, most authoritative information on this item) provided essentially the markup.
Building citations manually is okay for me. But I think it would add greatly to the URF's usefulness if it could more elagantly handle these cases. J. Johnson (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm having trouble with the url in a ref. I tried the following[3] but the display is disrupted by the [AU] part of the url and did not link to the relevant site. I tried using different brackets and a nowiki on the url but that didn't work either.
As you can see, the reference is mangled. Is there any work-around that would enable the reference to be used?Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Many thanks for your excellent tool. I use it loads, but I find it doesn't always work for PMIDs and PMCs. I've included two examples (for the same article) above. RupertMillard (Talk) 18:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Martin, I recently noticed that the author names are heavily scrambled. For instance, the search term
Polymorphism of DCDC2 Reveals Differences in Cortical Morphology of Healthy Individuals
gives
H. Meng, J. Cope (2008), "Polymorphism of DCDC2 Reveals Differences in Cortical Morphology of Healthy Individuals—A …", Brain imaging and behavior, 2 (1): 21–26, doi:10.1007/s11682-007-9012-1
instead of
Meda, Shashwath A.; Gelernter, Joel; Gruen, Jeffrey R.; Calhoun, Vince D.; Meng, Haiying; Cope, Natalie A.; Pearlson, Godfrey D. (2008), "Polymorphism of DCDC2 Reveals Differences in Cortical Morphology of Healthy Individuals—A Preliminary Voxel Based Morphometry Study", Brain imaging and behavior, 2 (1): 21–26, doi:10.1007/s11682-007-9012-1
This problem has occured for Springer references for quite some time but now even the PubMed or PMC entries for the same item do not come out properly any more, and all references I tried over the last few days had this problem if there was more than one author. Can you please take a look? Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Will do when I get the chance - my laptop is dead and I have no internet at home, so may be a little while!Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 21:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
((cite doi|10.1016/j.coldregions.2004.12.002))
in the article. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 12:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Please standardize the name attribute. Currently, if a long wiki article cites a journal or website article more than once, each one will become a unique entry in the references. As done by the diberri tool, consider the following for the name value:
etc,
For example:
or, in this example, the user can append a page number or chapter title to the isbn:
With this method, articles will only be inserted once into the bibliography. - Badgettrg (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Putting in the BibTex output of a Mathematical Reviews entry into the "complete citation" box is not very successful: the title is cut off, and in any case there is no need to carry the information about the MR reviewer (who then appears as the second author). However, Google Scholar appears to include all the papers covered by MR, so I am quite happy to use that instead.
Thanks Smith609 !
Regards 08:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranicki (talk • contribs)
Recently I've started having this problem where it only loads the first result for any search query on Google Scholar, and that too is incomplete. The rest of the page doesn't load. I tried a few different browsers too, but that doesn't seem to help. Am I doing something wrong? --Robin (talk) 16:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
.. I don't know why. Whatever404 (talk) 13:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I cannot see it, too. (on Win7, FF 4.0.1. & IE 9.0.8112.16421) Vinne2 (talk) 10:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
ISBN 9783540674207 doesn't turn up anything; yet the Citation templates generator does: [2]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.158.200 (talk) 00:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
It seems to get stuck on "Trying to expand citation info using CrossRef...". --Apoc2400 (talk) 23:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't get it to work using pmid's ... Is it because I use a Mac? Slow connection?Very disappointed. Celia Kozlowski (talk) 18:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Still just hanging for me, whether I use PMID or DOI. I'm using XP SP3 with google chrome (latest update). Mokele (talk) 19:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Redirects to bad DOI. TypicalUser (talk) 19:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I like your tool, and was wondering if it can be accessed in a machine-readable fashion. So, "...?doi=XXXXX", returning JSON (with callback!)? Cheers,--Magnus Manske (talk) 12:38, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I pasted this piece of Bibtex
@article{Bergquist:1999:FAI:347194.347203, author = {Bergquist, Gary A.}, title = {The future of APL in the insurance world}, journal = {SIGAPL APL Quote Quad}, volume = {30}, issue = {1}, month = {September}, year = {1999}, issn = {0163-6006}, pages = {16--21}, numpages = {6}, url = {http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/347194.347203}, doi = {http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/347194.347203}, acmid = {347203}, publisher = {ACM}, address = {New York, NY, USA}, }
(from http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=347194.347203 ) into the complete citation box of Cite.php
The output was very helpful to me, but I thought I ought to pass it onto you as you requested, as it is a little garbled and needed some manual edits.
<ref>((Citation | title = The future of APL in the insurance world} | year = 1999 | journal = :fai:347194.347203 | pages = 0163–6006 | volume = 30 | issue = 1 | doi = 10.1145/347194.347203} | url = http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/347194.347203},<br | last1 = Author . {bergquist | first1 = Gary A. | last2 = Quad} | first2 = Journal {Sigapl A.P.L. Quote | last3 = Address . {new York | first3 = N.Y. | accessdate = 2011-05-18 ))</ref>
Which citation format offered by ACM would work more smoothly?
--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 11:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Where should I go to enquire about the uptime of Cite.php? "Trying to expand citation info using CrossRef..." does not work for me (when for example, I use the DOI 10.1145/347194.347203 , the expansion never completes.) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 11:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, does the Universal Reference Formatter still work? I do not see any Wikify links on the Google Scholar page when searching e.g. http://toolserver.org/~verisimilus/Scholar/?q=Nash+1950 Stud3n7 (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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