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That was a very odd warning, considering I didn't do the things you warned about. Perhaps you should actually check edits before reacting to them? I also do not appreciate the veiled threat, and it's ludicrous to warn people off editing wikipedia as if you own it. — kwami (talk) 20:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hey there,
My name is Jessi, I am a citizen of the Chickasaw Nation. I had a question about the Stickball(Native American) article. I was wondering why it is linked to the history of Lacrosse and if maybe there is something we could do to change that? I am actually going to be picking an article to edit for my college English class and I was thinking that Stickball (Native American) should have its own page. Although I do not currently play the game myself, my older brother actually plays for the Chickasaw team Chikasha To'li. I have been to many of these events and even traveled to Mississippi to watch the World Series that my brother played in for the Choctaw team Tvshka Homma. I just believe that this great sport that has been such a proud tradition and rite of passage in our Native American Community should indeed have its own page.jmoore19 05:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmoore19 (talk • contribs)
Hi Jessi, yeah! I don't consider it "history" of anything, since there's more stickball matches now than ever. I'm wondering if there are very many published articles about stickball, but if not, we could probably write some for our tribal newspapers. Anyway, totally support recreating the stickball article. -Uyvsdi (talk) 06:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
That gravesite finder website you used for Archie Sam is really useful. I just wrote articles on Watt Sam and Nancy Raven and according to all the published sources they died in the 1930, but finding their gravesites on that website shows that Sam lived to 1944 and Raven to 1957!User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:41, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I noticed your work on my missing topics about ethnic groups. I do like to remove the blue and irrevelant links myself - and I do that when I update the page the next time - put your temporary removal of potentially dubious links (some of which I collected from other WP pages) actually helps my efforts. Keep up the good work - Skysmith (talk) 18:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
On 19 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Archie Sam, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Natchez traditionalist Archie Sam hunted with the Inughuit in Northern Greenland during World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Archie Sam. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
I just saw your conversation with Montanabw about all of the tribes now having articles, along with your post to the Indigenous people of NA talk page. This is absolutely amazing work, and your tireless focus on an under-represented area of WP is exactly what the wiki needs more of. I know we've never worked together before, but I wanted to let you know that your work is appreciated (and that contributors who don't create drama are rarely noticed as much as they should be...although that may be a good thing...)! Dana boomer (talk) 16:06, 6 October 2013 (UTC) |
The Alaskan Inuits are Inupiat people and population are 15,700. The total population of all "Inuit" "150,000" is not true. See Inuit talk page . Thanks. --Kmoksy (talk) 15:38, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
After revisiting Aché people I thought I'd create an article about the Parakanã (see [2] for the Portuguese one). So, do I call it Parakanã or Paracana and do I add 'people' to it? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I just really wanted express my gratitude for all you do. I don't know if a barnstar or a badge would even be appropriate to express my heart-felt gratitude, so I decided just to say "Thank you!!". CJLippert (talk) 15:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Uyvsdi, I'm not sure what is going on with Skookum, but he seems to be going on about things that you aren't even saying; something more than you seems to be making him angry, though he is targeting you. He mentioned having health problems, and I suspect there is something more going on with him than we realize here on-wiki. So, even though I know he's swearing at you, calling you names and generally being extremely difficult, I suggest that it might be best to just avoid his talk page; you dropped him a warning, and now I think it's time to back away and if he persists, let's see if I can de-escalate the situation; he's talking to me on my talk page, and I'm trying to calm him down. You know I have a lot of respect for you, and it appears to me that Skookum's work on the Canadian First Nations has been essentially solid, too. I think that makes me neutral and I want to be very fair. Feel free to drop me an email if you think there is background I should know about. (you have email disabled here, I see). But I can't see further engagement ending well here. JMO. Montanabw(talk) 06:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I didn't know you weren't a "he" - I'll try to make sure that I get it right in the future, but I have a bad memory, so if I mess up, whack me with a trout, 2 by 4, or something. GregJackP Boomer! 23:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Xest xlxalt, hello Usvydi! Your patient efforts to explain policy are much appreciated. Added a box to our WikiProject page, and a note to the talk page. Your suggestions and ideas are welcome, would you like to take it from here? Djembayz (talk) 22:52, 10 December 2013 (UTC) |
Rock Art Stars | |
Hello! Thank you for editing the information about the indians of my home country, the Pai Tavytera Indians, and about our project to bring the rock art of Paraguay into a wider audience. I was wondering if you could help me spread more of that information here on wikipedia, as I have a hard time navigating this site. I have a lot of contribution I want to add to wikipedia. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FrankOWeaver
Please send me an email so we can talk some more. FrankoWeaver at gmail .com Thank you so much! FrankOWeaver (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC) |
I had the wrong idea of how these were used. Only used to describe places no longer inhabited in category of Former Native American populated places in California. Fixed it. Asiaticus (talk) 06:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
The Mogollon Culture Area is about facts pertaining to matters of Mogollon archaeology. The OasisAmerica page is a fictitious history created by proponents of a political identity movement. The two are not rationally linked and any such linkage is false and misleading. OasisAmerica is not a term used by ANY archaeologist in the American west or northern Mexico. If you'd like to converse about it in the talk section of that web page feel free to do so, but do not edit the Mogollon Culture Area page without first consulting other editors of the page. Thx. Mike Diehl, PhD, 29 January 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Diehl (talk • contribs) 19:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The term is not used in ANY summary of North American Archaeology. Not Linda Cordell's, Brian Fagan's, Greogry and Willcox Zuni Origins volume, not Herr and Young's Pithouse Communities volume, not the Handbook of North American Indians, not Mike Adler's The Prehistoric Pueblo World, not any of the articles written by Emil Haury, not by C.C.I.DiPeso, not by the State Historic Preservation Offices of the States of Arizona or New Mexico, and not by any of the people who have recently published major reports on excavations in the region (vis Harry Shafer, Anyon and LeBlanc, Nelson and LeBlanc, Diehl and LeBlanc) nor by archaeologists that work in Northern Mexico (Minnis, Whalen, Hard, Roney) or west Texas (Rocek). Since Wikipedia purports to present information that is relevant and factually accurate, it seems to me to be a disservice to the Wikipedia Community and contrary to its mission statement for you to sabotage the Mogollon Culture page. Thx. MikeDiehl 19:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)Mike Diehl
He advocated for its used in a completely different way than it is used in your Wikipedia entry. Did you even READ what he wrote? Your vandalism of the Mogollon Culture page violates the standard of Notability. The fact that a political movement in Mexico coined a term to refer to a region about which the movement knows nothing at all does not therefore make that term relevant to the prehistory of that region. MikeDiehl 20:28, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
You provided citations that use the word but not in ways that you use the word. If that does not seem problematic to you refer you to WP: RS for an overview, especially 1.3, 2.1, and the entire section on "Biased Sources" (which covers the only published article by any person anywhere that specifically refers to the Mogollon area as a part of "OasisAmerican Culture." MikeDiehl 21:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I have made no false claims. I'll continue to edit the Mogollon page and will continue to refer to your vandalism of that page as vandalism. Again, you are referred to WR:RS 1.3, 2.1, Biased Source, and NPV entries. At some point, it should occur to you that you're arguing with one of the regional experts, and you seem to have no training in the matter. No one faults you for having "one man's opinion" but it is expected that you will not vandalize the Mogollon Culture entry. Thx.MikeDiehl 21:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
It's not used in the way that you claim it is used. It has no logical relationship to the history you have cited written by a pair of Mexican *historians* neither of whom has ever published an article in any archaeological journal. Show me where they have, or show me where any major archaeological synthesis of the Mogollon area uses that term in the way that the Wikipedia OasisAmerica page uses the term. You're way off base linking a page about the scientific and archaeological study of the Mogollon to a page that has no credibility. It's like positing the theory of phlogiston in a Wikipedia page about convection. No scholar doing research on the subject uses that term in that way. Warn me all you darned well please. That Mogollon page will not be subverted by links to fringe material. If you like Wikipedia can at your behest prevent me from editing the Mogollon page, but that would HEAVILY undermine that page's credibility. Done with you here, there, or anywhere else. MikeDiehl 00:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
NAFPS was removed from Yahoo Groups due to Terms of Service violations. Their site was removed by their hosting provider in 2007 for TOS violations.
Here are just a few sources citing NAFPS as a fraud: (Just because they have posts about frauds doesn't mean they aren't themselves frauds.)
http://beaderman.blogspot.ca/2008/03/new-age-frauds-and-plastic-shamans-aka.html
www.american-tribes.com
http://medicinebags.blogspot.ca/2008/07/nafps-and-its-racist-rhetoric.html
http://www.badeagle.com/cgi-bin/ib3/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=Print;f=53;t=6651
http://www.artforthemasses.us/castacon/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1131
http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.ca/2012/05/heyoka-magazine-robin-on-nafps.html
http://nativenetwork.wordpress.com/tag/nafps-forum-index/
http://sharonglass.blogspot.ca/2013/05/alton-carroll-aka-educatedindian.html
http://altoncarrollamericanindianhater.blogspot.ca/
http://newagefraudshutdown.wordpress.com/
http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/08/06/18439218.php?show_comments=1
24.212.187.116 (talk) 20:19, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Happy to share the info, You do realize NAFPS is also a self-published blog the same as all these sources. The fact that were removed twice from Yahoo due to TOS violations is a fact that can be independently verified.
Obviously people being described a s fraudulent who are not frauds are going to respond unfavorably. Frauds accusing other people of fraud is another obvious tactic of NAFPS.
The term shaman is not even a native american one in the first place. Even if NAFPS were a "First Nations" or "Indigenous" group it still does not own he word shaman. If there were an indigenous northern European group they might have more credibility.
If an organization publishes NAFPS, then what is the name, address, and phone number of this organization? The accusations of slander and libel against NAFPS are a matter of public record in Oklahoma court: Case # CJ-2009-10887. It is also a matter of public record that the site was removed from Yahoo and other hosting companies and currently resides on an anonymous offshore hosting company Cyber Cast International in Panama. So if this were truly a First Nations/Indigenous site which it is not, why would they care who uses the term shaman which you have stated is not Native American? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.212.187.116 (talk) 03:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
I removed the category because the category is for categorizing individual people, not groups. Each artist is already categorized under Caddo County, anyway. There's no reason to have them essentially listed twice. Kennethaw88 (talk) 06:13, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up about the timestamping. I was participating in the Art + Feminism Edit-a-thon and I'm obviously a newbie. Unfortunately, I'm finding the substrate of Wiki rules and etiquette overwhelming. I'm still sorting out what the link about signatures means... What I did was add the signature / timestamp where I made an edit (assuming it would be invisible in the actual Read view of the article). Then I saw that I had added all that info TO THE ARTICLE. I assume then that I am merely supposed to sign my contributions to discussions of page editing in talk posts (like this one?). I will wade through more tutorials... Thanks for this bit of oversight as I sort myself out! --Cocoafiend (talk) 03:10, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Epicgenius (talk) 00:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
In the interests of assuming good faith, I will attempt to start the discussion by summing up our arguments: you seem to believe that Ethnologue is a reliable source for this subject. I have stated that I think that is not reliable because it is a general source which states something (that "Eskimo" is by definition pejorative) which is in conflict with the dominant literature sources on the subject (which say that Eskimo might be taken as pejorative, but is not etymologically so). Assuming you are indeed engaged in good faith editing, I do not understand why you have not fully responded to these statements. Secondly, let me point out that the Ethnologue source refers to a language, not a people. "Eskimo" used as a language, is widely done throughout academia, and there is no way to subsitute that. How then, can it be pejorative? Please also realize that the particular Ethnologue article linked to is on "Inupiatun" language, which not only is a subclass of Eskimo languages, but is also the language of a people who pretty well prefer to be called "Eskimos" over "Inuit", even though they technically are Inuit. Although of course we all wish people would communicate more specifically (say, "Inupiat") when they refer to a group of people (I am an Alaskan, and I kind of prefer not to be called "American"), I think we both know that that is not always going to happen. So you see, to me it seems to be an open and shut case. Can you please comment on this?
At times, yes.
I think that's pretty obviously an unreasonable, poorly considered, immaturely rendered statement, and due to the lack of balance probably ought to be escalated to the next level up. If nothing else, claims of harassment should be taken seriously, not treated with contempt. I did warn you repeatedly, in no uncertain terms, to cease your aggressive behaviors, and this is a clear case of victim blaming.
Like others, I did not have the slightest idea why you are going around swapping the term Eskimo with links that are not, or are likely not, mentioned by the sources. That is, until I looked into the edit history of the Eskimo article, and your dispute with the above IP. Whatever the case, with regard to additions like this, which I reverted, if it's not supported by the sources, you should not be adding them. Flyer22 (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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