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List of countries by Human Development Index (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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I originally nominated this article last spring at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of countries by Human Development Index/archive2 but due to life being a mess and me being very busy in the weeks after that I withdrew it. Now I've incorporated the feedback there, done some improvements together with the big annual update and guaranteed there are no data errors and some other minor things. There is one improvement that I would like to make which is merging the two maps in the lead, but due to lack of participants in the talkpage discussion we could not reach a consensus on the matter. --Trialpears (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Table accessibility review (MOS:DTAB): while the table has column scopes, it is missing a caption and rowscopes, and has column headers in the middle of the table.
Comments
That's it on a quick run. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:25, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why 189 countries? Why are the others not included?Those are the ones that have data available in the human development report. It is the 193 UN member states except North Korea, Monaco, Nauru, San Marino, Somalia and Tuvalu, the non-member observer state Palestine (but not the other observer state, the Vatican/Holy See) as well as Hong Kong. Including other sources would open a gigantic can of worms with tons of discussion about what counts as a country and whether a given source is reliable. I'm happy to have a longer discussion on this if you want to.
"The first human development index was" why not use the abbreviation?Done, slighlty rephrased.
"as GDP. The" explain before using the abbreviation.Expanded the abbreviation. It is only used once.
"a long and healthy life, knowledge, and decent living standards" is this a quote? It doesn't sound particularly encyclopedic.The direct quote is
The Human Development Index (HDI) is a summary measure of average achievement in key dimensions of human development: a long and healthy life, being knowledgeable and have a decent standard of living.from http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi. "A long and healthy life" is consistently the way they refer to it and I don't believe it would be proper to modify it here, although I called it just health in the first sentance.
"Various indicators are" that links to economic indicator yet this all about indicators other than economic...Yep, not optimal. I think there should be some kind of link for indicator. I changed it to Indicator (statistics) which is accurate nut not particularly in depth.
"three indexes" isn't the plural of index indices?I've seen both in use, but I think indices is considered more proper and is unambiguously correct. Changed.
"at Radboud University where" context, where is this uni?Changed to "Radboud University in the Netherlands".
ISBNs should be consistently formatted.Fixed now. Not entirely certain what convention to use, copied the one at WP:ISBN.
Ref 2 and ref 10 look identical?One was supposed to be table 1 and one table 2. Fixed now.
You link "United Nations Development Programme" on and off in the refs, be consistent.Settled on unlinked since it's linked first thing in the article proper.
Comments Support from Sdkb
Overall, this looks quite good! Here are some comments. Some of these things are more significant whereas others are extremely nitpicky, just questions, or may reflect my own preferences moreso than any requirements. I look forward to supporting once the significant things are addressed. Also, I know you plan to be busy in the near future, so please don't feel any pressure to respond quickly.
To resolve one of the limitations the inequality-adjusted human development index (IHDI) was introduced in the 2010 report which stated that "the IHDI is the actual level of human development (accounting for inequality)" and "the HDI can be viewed as an index of 'potential' human development (or the maximum IHDI that could be achieved if there were no inequality)".doesn't need to have quotes, if I understand our norms about quotations correctly. There's also some redundancy, as it's pretty self-apparent that something called the "inequality-adjusted human development index" is the human development index adjusted for inequality. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 21:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
several aspects of the index has received criticism including the choice of included factors, the relative weight given to the factors, and a single number giving an overly simplistic view of human development.The way the first part of the sentence is structured, the list in the second part needs to be of aspects of the index. "the relative weight given to the factors" and "the choice of included factors" are both aspects of the list, but "a single number giving an overly simplistic view of human development" isn't. I changed it to "the perceived oversimplification of using a single number per country", which reads better to me, but feel free to tweak it further.
((u|Sdkb)) talk 01:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]The HDI is the most widely used indicator of human development and changed how people view the concept. However, several aspects of the index have received criticism. Some scholars have criticized the limited factors it considers, noting omissions like level of participation in governance or level of inequality. In response to the latter concern, the UNDP introduced the inequality-adjusted Human Development Index (IHDP) in its 2010 report. Others have criticized the perceived oversimplification of using a single number per country. To reflect developmental differences within countries, a Subnational HDI (SHDI) featuring data for more than 1600 regions was introduced in 2018 by the Global Data Lab at Radboud University in the Netherlands. In 2020, the UNDP introduced another index, the planetary pressures–adjusted HDI, which discounts the scores of countries with a higher ecological footprint.
The Human Development Report includes the 193 United Nations member states as well as Palestine and Hong Kong. However, it is not available for North Korea, Monaco, Nauru, San Marino, Somalia and Tuvalu.seem to include a contradiction, as North Korea, Monaco, etc. are UN member states. Is it that they're discussed in the report but just not given a score? If so, we should state that more directly. It may be worth noting the absence of Taiwan and any other similar omissions. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 21:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other non-UN members, such as Taiwan, are not included.This is a possible can of worm but I think that's fine. --Trialpears (talk) 23:28, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Due to improved data and methodology updates, HDI values are not comparable across human development reports; instead, each report recalculates the HDI for some previous years.) I guess 2014 could be removed though to make it a small amount nicer. I feel like all the others are worth keeping though (could be convinced otherwise about 2017 though). --Trialpears (talk) 23:28, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 23:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 22:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]