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The result was delete. —SpacemanSpiff 02:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Debraj Shome

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DGG (talk · contribs) thinks this is spam. But an article that has survived nine years since its creation and five years since its last AfD discussion deserves better than speedy deletion. I have no feeling on the matter. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. a few quotes will illustrate :"Dr. Shome who is regarded as one of the best plastic surgeons in Mumbai & India" ; "Shome, the facial plastic surgeon was conferred with prestigious "India’s Most Promising Face in Facial Plastic Surgery Innovations” at Satya Brahma founded Indian Affairs India Leadership Conclave 2015" "several peer-reviewed national and international publications to his credit. " (highest citation figure is actually 51, from review journals; highest research paper is 31, which in inconsequential in this subject area) No major awards; no editorships; no faculty appointments. "He is a columnist for the Times of India, Hindustan Times, and DNA – Daily News and Analysis, " -- and so are all plastic surgeons who are looking for patients. This field has been a quagmire of advertisements, both on and off Wikipedia. WE have removed about half the WP examples. Most still in WP have presidencies of major societies of editor in chief of major journal of major international prizes or distinguished professorships in major research universities. Those are the only safe criteria. (There are also a few who specialize in major celebrities--whether that should be a special case seems dubious to me, but some have had keeps.) The references are advertorials at best. The previous two AfDs were non-consensus, not keeps & thus no precedent. DGG ( talk ) 22:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:14, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am just an onlooker and a follower and I do not even necessarily know how to make edits to Wikipedia. But, I have a couple of comments here:

1) US patents for inventions in India are rare for individual researchers. Does DGG mean to say they are not of value? http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Health/2017-07-11/Indian-doctors-get-US-patent-for-hair-regrowth/311514 http://medicaldialogues.in/bravo-apollo-spectra-doctor-invents-injection-for-natural-hair-re-growth-bags-us-patent/ http://www.deccanchronicle.com/science/science/110717/two-win-patent-for-hair-regrowth.html 2) Are awards by the Royal College of Surgeons Glasgow and the highest Ophthalmological Society in India "no major awards"? 3) Here is another: http://network7mediagroup.net/dr-debraj-shome-dr-rinky-kapoor-awarded-at-pharma-leaders-power-brand-awards/ Who decides btw what are major awards? 4) http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JQkcvMjAxMC8wOS8xOSNBcjAwMTA1&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom First page, all ediions mentions, in India's largest newspaper are worth nothing? 5) Adjunct Faculty at Indian Institute of Technology, Mumbai, India, for a surgeon, is worth nothing?! http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/IIT-B-docs-use-nanotech-to-treat-cancer/articleshow/5570967.cms 6) 51 seminal publications are worth nothing? http://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2185464 7) https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Debraj_Shome/publications 8) Can you then specify what actually is worth something? Sitting and editing articles and putting them up for deletion on Wiki?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.4.28.255 (talk) 08:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

well,publishing multiple research papers with very high citation counts will do it, or being editor of a major journal, or distinguished full professor at a major university. DGG ( talk ) 02:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete DGG presents a detailed and persuasive case. Shome is not notable enough, and the article is far too heavy on advertising. Plus, at least some of those are vanity awards, so one has to be sceptical about the rest. Edwardx (talk) 11:14, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Dr. Debraj Shome is a much recognised, much awarded and very highly renowned Indian plastic surgeon. If he does not deserve a Wiki mention, then Wiki should not have any surgeons at all! If the article is poorly written, get it re written! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.73.8.71 (talk)
Delete non-notable person and per DGG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:00, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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