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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Florence, South Carolina shooting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Most AfDs are about notability. This isn't. It's about WP:NOT. Although the event was widely covered at the time it happened, there is no indication of any long term impact or change occurring. This is news and nothing more. It's full of BLP violations and serves no purpose. Crazy dude killed cops. Sad, but it happens all the time. John from Idegon (talk) 19:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I wouldn't say coverage is limited to just around the time this event happened:
  • https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2018/12/06/florence-police-killing-accused-fred-hopkins-home-turmoil/2228088002/
  • https://www.postandcourier.com/news/accused-florence-police-shooter-frederick-hopkins-discusses-ptsd-and-what/article_e008fd58-4ff4-11e9-a655-4311cc3103bb.html
  • https://www.postandcourier.com/news/sc-judge-orders-mental-evaluation-for-accused-florence-police-shooter/article_ccf0f0a6-652d-11e9-9df4-63dbf840f8ca.html
  • https://www.live5news.com/2019/04/16/family-florence-officer-killed-shootout-deeply-angered-over-alleged-killers-letters-appearing-newspaper/
  • https://www.scnow.com/news/local/more-charges-filed-against-seth-hopkins/article_7e0ae22a-d5b8-11e9-8c77-e76697ed379d.html
  • https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article238424563.html

Based on coverage I'm seeing via Google and Google News searches, I'm inclined to keep. For the record, I created a stub for this page but don't consider myself a primary author. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - local coverage of the people associated with this doesn't do much to show any historic impact here. It made the wires when it happened, as it should. Let me ask you this: do you think this would ever be covered by history text books? And what changed because of it? Outside the obvious impact to family and friends, nothing. John from Idegon (talk) 19:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Carolina-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Does not satisfy the diversity of coverage nor the lasting effects requirements of WP:NEVENT. Mass shootings are an almost every day event in the United States, and there is no evidence shown that this shooting changes anything. Coverage is local and confined to the standard crime-trial-sentencing cycle. Unfortunate but not notable. • Gene93k (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - coverage is ongoing. Bearian (talk) 21:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Event is still ongoing, because there has yet to be a trial.TH1980 (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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