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The result was keep‎. Certainly no consensus to delete. Valid concerns about the depth of the coverage remain. Mojo Hand (talk) 23:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Getter Saar (footballer)

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Redirect to List of Estonia women's international footballers. The subject has earned 16 caps for the Estonia women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. This is what came up in searches. JTtheOG (talk) 22:01, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Estonia. JTtheOG (talk) 22:01, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
keep [1] - Soccernet.ee has the biggest football coverage in Estonia. Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 13:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. One source on its own is not enough. If further sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
2 3 player of the month nominated for best national team goal etc. In google search (10,000 hits) the badminton player with the same name makes it harder to find these but there are still couple thousand for this person. Pelmeen10 (talk) 15:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And further complicated by another footballer, Estonian U17 NTer Liis Getter Saar (born 2007), also showing up in football-/jalgpall-specific results. Some additional recent English-language coverage likely to be dismissed as insufficient toward GNG: Estonian Public Radio 1, 2, 3. -75.164.167.40 (talk) 16:30, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Pelmeen10. ExRat (talk) 05:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - @GiantSnowman:, Per above. Clearly significant figure in Estonian womens football with ongong career. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 15:21, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 17:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails GNG. Namedrops in match reports is not sigcov of anyone. Dougal18 (talk) 09:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dougal18: Would you consider switching your vote to redirect? JTtheOG (talk) 02:10, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Estonia women's international footballers per above. BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Sources in the article and BEFORE showed stats, mentions in game recaps, nothing that meets WP:IS, WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 14:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Between Delete, Keep and Redirect, there isn't a consensus here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:48, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I was pinged here for my analysis so I won't formally !vote. The soccernet.ee pieces constitute one single source. Of those, we have passing mentions in a list (not SIGCOV); a republished press release announcing Saar was chosen as best women's player of the month (not independent, not SIGCOV); and two interviews with no independent coverage. From Err.ee we have a sentence of info accompanied by a quote from her (not SIGCOV) and two routine match reports mentioning her (primary, not SIGCOV). I would recommend redirecting.

JoelleJay (talk) 04:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How is a "recommendation" different from a "!vote"? -The Gnome (talk) 21:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not understanding how can different sources about different things be counted as 1 source. 1 + 1 +... ≠ 1. It would be the same as when the deletion starter JTtheOG asked for your help deleting this article, you both count as 1. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:58, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they are pulling from WP:GNG, which says: "Similarly, a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source." GNG requires multiple pieces of in-depth coverage from more than one reliable source. JTtheOG (talk) 20:17, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Pelmeen10.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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