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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 01:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glint (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Doesn't meet criteria in WP:MUSIC --fvw* 17:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This article does satisfy the requirements for musician inclusion:

1. Glint has been the the subject of non-trivial published works. The band was written in Billboard Magazine, Deli Magazine, The Westchester Magazine, The Inquirer Mirror (Newspaper), High Times Magazine, Rockland Journal News

Glint has also had a video on the CBS Early Show. The band has been interviewed by Matt Pinfield and Noahm (well known NYC Blogger)

6. Jase is a notable musician and former famous actor, see his IMDB

7. Winning the 2007 IMWS showed how prominent Glint is in the local scene of NYC underground, the band was also one of the "smallest" to play live on a major radio station, perform at the Apple Soho Store, and get featured on the homepage of the itunes music store in July 2008.

9. Glint has won or placed in a major music competition, the Independent Music World Series of 2007, in which Billboard Magazine hand picked Glint out of 1300+ bands — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glint (band) (talk • contribs)

• Keep Google Glint Jase, a ton comes up. Second, the first thing was a mistake, the band's management thought to start a wiki page you create it by a user. Rely Records and fans made the Glint (band) a second time following proper instructions, we want to delete that older user: Glint (band). Plus, Jase does have a lot of notability, he was in Titanic and Stanley (broadway plays) and casted in several motion pictures and tv, including Station Agent (look on the DVD COVER!) the Cosby Show, Conan O'Brien, Snow In August, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.87.216 (talk)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 06:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 06:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Relisting comment One of the keep voters appears to have a conflict of interest. His comments are welcome and shouldn't be discounted but this debate could use a few more neutral opinions. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete None of the sources provided above is substantial in coverage save for Deli magazine. I also see no proof of the competition being notable, and Jase's notability has no bearing on the band, neither does playing at the Apple Store or being on iTunes. I should also note that the IP vote seems to be the same user as the first voter. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 01:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• I dunno, being written about in Billboard is a pretty big step towards notability in my view. The Westchester article is non-trivial; The Inquirer and Mirror article is non-trivial; the High Times article is non-trivial. And the Journal News one is a long interview with the band. That's enough there for WP:MUSIC criterion #1, so I recommend keep. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 04:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Those are all "other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves" aren't they? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 05:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Not the Billboard one. And the others: partially, not entirely. They are not of a press-release nature. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 05:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. Coverage is just sufficient to meet notability guidelines.--Michig (talk) 09:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, I feel they squeak through WP:MUSIC#C1.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 11:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Hmmm. How peculiar. My comment 1 seems to have disappeared from the AFD discussion! Here it is, back again!
• Delete I can't find very much online about them, the article seems to have been written by user "Glint (band)" (no relation) and much as Jase has a formidable iMDB page with roles such as "Store Customer" I'm not sure if that counts as notability. Richard Hock (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Not only do i agree with the Billboard comment above (having sufficient evidence for WP:MUSIC#C1), but also having an interview and performance with Matt Pinfield on 101.9 Rxp is notable as well. See video here [1] The recording is also referenced on the wiki page. The reason the page was first written by Glint (band) was a mistake, I work for Rely Records and have verified all content. I also included all appropriate citations. I also happen to think that many bands are significant if they had front page advertisement on the iTunes homepage, see screenshot here [2]. Winning the competition that was judged by Billboard awarded the band $50,000 in cash and prizes, I think that is fairly significant as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.87.216 (talk) 00:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: articles written by record labels, the artists themselves and press releases shouldn't be counted towards notability. I believe there is insufficient grounds for this article to be kept as per WP:MUSIC. JamesBurns (talk) 01:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep How could this not be notability if they had a story in Billboard Magazine, raving about their "air tight" live show and Jase Blankfort as an "irresistible frontman? Take the time and explore all references and attachments before making a decision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.87.216 (talk) 04:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Although an AFD isn't a vote collection, that's the third Keep vote from 68.193.87.216... Richard Hock (talk) 10:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I think its not the strongest keep, but according to the guidelines this band does pass for WP:MUSIC#C1, especially with the story i found on google of Glint in Billboard. Just my two cents —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.65.168 (talk) 00:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Geolocate indicates both 68.193.87.216 and 69.116.65.168 are from the same area. JamesBurns (talk) 05:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.