The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Editors (all but one) agree that the awards are not notable for this guy (despite his apparently wonderful cock and cumshot!) to pass the PORNBIO test, and they agree also that the GNG is not met. That the awards are important "to those who bother to know" is not helpful without evidence. Drmies (talk) 15:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rafael Alencar

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Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:PORNBIO. PROD was removed without comment. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 01:32, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 01:32, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - we should translate de:Rafael Alencar and pt:Rafael Alencar. -- Kanghuitari (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:38, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just took a look at the German article. It claims three awards. The first is not backed by the cited source, which says someone else won. The second is a scene based award which is excluded from establishing notability by the guidelines. The third has no source. IMO that it is not enough toring the N bell, though I am open to reconsideration if more information comes to light. On a side note I have to admit that I don't know what the standing of the claimed awards are within the porn business world. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:46, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Update OK I just found a source for the claimed 3rd award (Best Escort 2010) and I am not impressed. But if someone can establish that The Hookies (Caution: Linked source is an adult website.) are a generally recognized major industry award, I will withdraw the nom. I will let the community decide. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - For the record, based on the above-mentioned alternate language Wikipedia articles, it appears that the subject here has won the following awards:

2009 International Escort Award ("The Hookies") - Best Top[1]

2010 GayVN Award - Best Cumshot (Wall Street - Lucas Entertainment)[2]

2010 International Escort Award ("The Hookies") - Best Pornstar Escort (tied with someone else)[3]

2011 International Escort Award ("The Hookies") - International Escort of the Year[4][5]

2013 International Escort Award ("The Hookies") - Best Cock[6]

None of these awards appear to meet the "well-known and significant industry award" standard from PORNBIO. Guy1890 (talk) 07:05, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Hookies are very much seen as well-known (to those who bother to know), international and a major industry award, one of few actually. And they specialize in new media genres that the older awards haven't quite figured out. Searching "Rafael Alencar" and "Hookie" will give you more sources showing that he and the award are seen as part of the gay community. Adam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam10749 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. A virtually unsourced BLP with no legitimate claims to meeting the GNG or any relevant SNG. The "International Escort Awards" do not meet PORNBIO requirements, falling well below even basic notability standards (as established by an overwhelming consensus in their own AFD). The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 01:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails GNG without reliable source coverage. Fails PORNBIO. The International Escort Awards don't count as well-known awards. And the GayVN win is scene-related. • Gene93k (talk) 02:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.