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The result was no consensus. Shimeru (talk) 07:15, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure if there's enough for notability here. I have looked for other sources but cannot find them either. He has trivial mentions here and here (under the name "Machete" with no source to indicate that this is actually him). The other website used doesn't show him any longer as it seems there is a claim that he's since retired. Note that I've removed all the unsourced information per BLP as some include some "real-life" claims including legal issues so the longer version has a lot more claims (which keeps getting reverted) but I'm still not sure it's enough. Ricky81682 (talk) 10:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ricky Vega wrestled for numerous independent outlets as well as stints in both the World wrestling federation as Ricky Vega and in Total Nonstop Action as Machete. Ricky Vega has also wrestled and won world titles in Puerto Rico with the Internation Wrestling Association and many more to name a few. He has indeed since retired but making the claim that Vega isn't Machete or that he hasn't had enough for notability is just not accurate. If that where the case you would need to erase all wrestler's not Rock, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan and Shawn Micheals. Is this not a source for all things? Thanks for the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.7.93.61 (talk) 00:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find reliable sources for any of that? I haven't been able to find much which makes making an accurate article quite difficult. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:37, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lucha Libre online, PWI (Pro Wrsetling Illustrated) ranked Vega 2008 and 2009 in there top 500, Declaration of Independents (website), IWA.TV has him listed in there title history and 1Wrestlimg.com have all cover and or featured Vega over the years, Combine that with what you have and you may find what your looking for.

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 03:42, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• delete remember that professional wrestling is not a sport but an entertainment venue, so the notability guildelines should more closely match that of an entertainer, not an athlete. Still, not seeing much notability.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, My name is Ephraim Vega also known as Ricky Vega. I appreciate all the emails and support I have received from many who followed my career and believe I deserve to be recognized. I am glad anyone even cares to be honest. However I am retired and have nothing do to with wrestling any longer. You are more than welcome to delete if you have to as that is something from my past and no longer associate with in my life. Thanks again to all those who are fighting to keep me on here but the past is the past. Never really been on here and I am a big old west fan so it's cool that I learned of this page. Thanks again. — 24.2.20.249 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Keep This is does not make any sense. There are sources listed above and the page had sources and add on's that it seems others are deleting. I understand the person does not care either way but it is not his choice to have a page but those that are wrestling fans or readers in general to seek out information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.7.93.60 (talk • contribs)
• Keep Being a former IWA World Heavyweight Champion makes a person notable. Plus he has appeared in TNA as part of the notable tag team/stable Latin American Xchange. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 07:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any reliable sources as to who has won the IWA World Heavyweight championship? This is the source at IWA Undisputed World Unified Heavyweight Championship but is there a secondary source that mentions this at all? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Probably notable, but it needs improvement. I'll abstain for the moment. RICK ME DOODLE YOU DOODLE 05:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Professional wrestlers are subject to WP:ATHLETE. He meets the criteria, as he competed at the top level of his sport (TNA Wrestling). Per previous discussions, ranking in the PWI 500 also helps establish notability, so two rankings in the list certainly helps the case. There is obviously still a lot that should be added, but there is no reason to delete an article that meets the notability threshold simply because it is not yet complete. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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