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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 04:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Sanand Mitra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Procedural nomination on behalf of
User:Flibbertigibbets; I am
neutral. Their stated reasoning is:
-The text of the article was originally from a user created marketing website
-The focus of the text was to market companies which may or may not exist
-I question the notability of the subject and his impact and reach 
-The chronology and career seems to be self authored, I don't think it would be relevant to anyone but the subject
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Part of me ; 23:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks again! There is a site called "Your Story" which contains a bio and story very similar in content and tone to the Wikipedia article. It is my opinion (and I could be quite wrong) that the subject is not notable. The tone of the article used adjectives to inflate - Support Flibbertigibbets (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Flibbertigibbets, I'm confused. If the text is copied from elsewhere, then what's the copyright status of the source? (If this article is a mere copyvio, it may, indeed should, be summarily deleted.) Or are you now saying that the content and style are similar but the text is not the same? -- Hoary (talk) 23:44, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes lots of the text is copied from "a marketing/vanity press/public relations site," where "Sanand Mitra" created the content - the marketing content then found its way to Wikipedia in some cases verbatim. There is actually a page on "Your Story" where you can enter anything you want to say about a "venture" you might want to start or be involved in. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 23:59, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- It also looks like the article was created by a "special purpose, single use account, single edit" as part of a marketing effort; Special:Contributions/Ttango121 Flibbertigibbets (talk) 00:17, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Spam and copyvio aren't automatic justifications for deletion ([WP:BATHWATER]]), it should be cleaned up for the problem text first. Winning two national golds in a sport may be significant enough, even if the other business ventures aren't as notable. Dl2000 (talk) 00:37, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I placed the article in AFD as to not to edit the article down to virtually one sentence; as a new user I was uncomfortable making a radical change (blanking an article) even if it conformed to Wikipedia rules and standards. The article is one sentence which is an effectual deletion. The only question, with this one sentence article remaining now is if the subject is notable? I would categorize the supporting articles as "mentions." The "info-box" links don't go anywhere and offer no support for "the medals." I have no idea as to whether or not "the medals" are a substantive credential. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I am now looking for notable archers in India (with no mention)
- Archery in India
- https://khelnow.com/olympic-sports/top-5-indian-archer-of-all-time
- From what I can tell the Mitra "medals" were in time to University B-level Flibbertigibbets (talk) 02:11, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- With a reference to a won event in 2005 which is a paragraph
- https://archive.ph/20130125191723/http://www.hinduonnet.com/2005/04/07/stories/2005040705652000.htm#selection-273.1-273.196
- "Everything went according to the script in the compound bow section with Naresh Damor (ITBP) winning the title ahead of Sanand Mitra of Jharkhand, with only four points separating them (110-106)." Flibbertigibbets (talk) 02:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Question: I'm asking about copyright violation and plagiarism, Flibbertigibbets, not about likely motivation. Please specify the page from which "lots of the text is copied". If it's on a blacklisted website and you are therefore unable to provide a regular link, just add spaces to the URL ("http: // www.promotionalgarbage .com/whatever.html" or similar). -- Hoary (talk) 00:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- It's hard to figure out if there is a chronology. You can see some of the same phrases yourstory com 2011 04 sanand-mitra-on-being-an-archer-and-an-entrepreneur against previous versions. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:37, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- In your nomination, Flibbertigibbets, you wrote "The text of the article was originally from a user created marketing website". Obviously that refers to the article in the state it was when you asked for an AfD. It has changed since then; this is not problematic. But now you seem to be saying that you don't know which is a copy of which. Well, nominators can change their minds; but it would be a great help to people reading this if you would strike through (
like this) what you wrote earlier but are now uncertain of. -- Hoary (talk) 02:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Will do; the questionable content (and mostly all of the article) has been blanked with not much remaining Flibbertigibbets (talk) 02:48, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- just figured out how to strike-though, took me a bit.. thanks Flibbertigibbets (talk) 21:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:21, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I found this [1], same name, but it looks like a very different person (heavier and facial features). Unsure about the rest. If it was only university level athletics, not sure that's GNG stuff we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 03:44, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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